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Sonic Generations |OT| What Sonic can learn from Sonic
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DICKS AHOY
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Coincidentally enough that feature just as you described it is in the game (think you can change the music that plays in a zone too, so Emerald Hill's tune in Green Hill, etc.). Think they're might be additional remixes too, since there was a Door into Summer remix in the hub world.
edit: beaten :T
edit: beaten :T
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
AlexMogil said:
I'm in Germany but I don't know if it will have an english option.
Azure Dream
Member
TimmiT said:
It's like 10 years of pent-up "we didn't have the rights to do this" frustration committed to musical form.
Seven Force
Banned
The Sky Sanctuary bit is amazing. Brought back fond memories of the S3&K credits.
Azure Dream
Member
Lucky Number Seven Force said:
It really is fantastic, I think it's my favorite remix of the ones in the medley.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Ive always been embarrassed to say this IRL, but I honestly think the sonic franchise has always had some amazing music, some even better thats in the charts.
In fact, has their ever been a sonic game with bad music?
In fact, has their ever been a sonic game with bad music?
Seven Force
Banned
Edit: On second thought, let's keep this a happy thread :>
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Really? It's usually the only consistently praised element of the entire series, and they've had actual bands and even Michael Jackson work on tunes, so I wouldn't be that self conscious of loving the music.ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
EDIT: it's so bad it's funny so I don't see any problem in reposting this
FINE WHATEVER
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Lucky Number Seven Force said:
WTF? IM so glad i never had any interest in that game.
I just find it funny you posted the exact same song..my ears have bleed enough thank you.
Anywho, great thread. Can't wait for the game.
Combichristoffersen said:
Lets be real, thats what you really want to say. But Its all love, we are all sonic fans first and foremost.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
Some, but depending on your tastes, Sonic games have generally always had good music. Personally I'm not a fan of the music the series has used after the 16-bit days, but ymmv.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I haven't either as much but it's still well-made, just in a different style I don't particularly care for. I think since Unleashed though they started reaching a nice compromise between the two styles (classic 'catchy' tunes and then 80's rock, with more jazzy stuff I guess you could associate with Sonic CD or Adventure for the night stages) and it's carried on through the games since.Combichristoffersen said:
Demo lost me completely. This is absolutely nothing like a classic Sonic game.
Classic mode:
Camera is horrible. The camera is wildly inconsistent, which makes it hard to reliably track your relation to other objects. I don't know how you fuck up the camera in a sidescroller, but Sega finds a way.
Speed. It's like instead of playing any classic Sonic game, they just heard that they were fast and said OKAY LET'S DO IT. There is no platforming. There is no meaningful path branching. And once again, the speed makes it hard to separate out objects in the level.
Level design. Because you're moving too fast, the level is extremely spread out. Classic Sonic levels are dense with interesting features.
Color palette. Overall the game is nicely colorful, but the 3D graphics do an absolutely shit job of conveying which elements are special and need your attention and which aren't. Combined with the awful camera and the ramped-up speed, it's hard to tell what exactly is going on and what you need to be doing.
Control. Because the levels are so spaced out, and you're supposed to be moving so quickly, Sonic is very floaty and you have very little fine control. This makes all of the above factors even more maddening.
New mode:
Random 2D sections. The new mode has random 2D sections that retain the 3D moveset. You can't curl up into a ball, and instead still have the shitty homing attack, speed boost and duck. Why do you have two types of 2D gameplay?
Level design. With absolutely no platforming elements, 3D mode essentially feels like you're on rails with QTEs determining whether or not you keep moving.
Am I controlling this? Continues the same new Sonic crap tradition of randomly taking control away from you as Sonic does a loop or dodges a big piranha or does some other hot shit move nobody cares about. Should I be pressing up or down? Does it matter if I press anything at all? Who knows?
What a piece of shit this game is and what a turd of a developer Sonic Team has become.
Classic mode:
Camera is horrible. The camera is wildly inconsistent, which makes it hard to reliably track your relation to other objects. I don't know how you fuck up the camera in a sidescroller, but Sega finds a way.
Speed. It's like instead of playing any classic Sonic game, they just heard that they were fast and said OKAY LET'S DO IT. There is no platforming. There is no meaningful path branching. And once again, the speed makes it hard to separate out objects in the level.
Level design. Because you're moving too fast, the level is extremely spread out. Classic Sonic levels are dense with interesting features.
Color palette. Overall the game is nicely colorful, but the 3D graphics do an absolutely shit job of conveying which elements are special and need your attention and which aren't. Combined with the awful camera and the ramped-up speed, it's hard to tell what exactly is going on and what you need to be doing.
Control. Because the levels are so spaced out, and you're supposed to be moving so quickly, Sonic is very floaty and you have very little fine control. This makes all of the above factors even more maddening.
New mode:
Random 2D sections. The new mode has random 2D sections that retain the 3D moveset. You can't curl up into a ball, and instead still have the shitty homing attack, speed boost and duck. Why do you have two types of 2D gameplay?
Level design. With absolutely no platforming elements, 3D mode essentially feels like you're on rails with QTEs determining whether or not you keep moving.
Am I controlling this? Continues the same new Sonic crap tradition of randomly taking control away from you as Sonic does a loop or dodges a big piranha or does some other hot shit move nobody cares about. Should I be pressing up or down? Does it matter if I press anything at all? Who knows?
What a piece of shit this game is and what a turd of a developer Sonic Team has become.
Sonic Team must really like Chaotix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlgFZ6faY44
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Oh my God. Oh my God. This is super-hot.TimmiT said:
That bass... so sexy... Damn.
I need this. Did Retro rip the music again? Edit: Nevermind.
Why? Among my VGM listening friends, Sonic ranks up there. Even my nongaming friends who have played Sonic in the past love the music.ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
Seven Force
Banned
I think I might actively start avoiding whatever other media they dig up from the demo now. I sure as hell didn't expect another Chaotix track.TimmiT said:
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Picked up Sonic Unleashed. Gonna try and rush through that before I go about considering this game.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
A nod toBlueblur1 said:
Door Into Summer
petethepanda
Member
Damn it, UK PSN, why do you suck? Demo still not out.
Wish I had my 360 with me.
Wish I had my 360 with me.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
PepsimanVsJoe said:
....Why?.....
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
God I can't wait for this game. I need it!!! D:
DICKS AHOY
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Billychu said:Why are there no Triple Trouble references
Iizuka: *laughs*
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Billychu said:Why are there no Triple Trouble references
Thanks for reminding me how much I miss Nack the Weasel.
Asshole.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Dark Schala said:
I dunno...its just a bit corny in my social circle to admit your a massive sonic the hedgehog fan, especially at my age.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
Dont be embarassed, Sonic music has ALWAYS been amazing and perfectly listenable since day 1. Only bad soundtrack was that RPG from Bioware.
Also hell yeah! The medley returns!
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
People like comic super heroes at all ages, why not Sonic (granted some of the modern games have been a little...off...but if they heard the music I doubt they would complain).
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Billychu said:Why are there no Triple Trouble references
Wouldn't surprise me if Iizuka thought all the 8-bit games were trash. You know, after all Iizuka is the guy who thinks Sonic Chaos is the only bad Sonic game.
Sonic Chaos isn't bad.
Fans are ripping the demo apart at the moment.
Results A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHsZGFjv45I
Results B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uso-f3rc94s
Results A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHsZGFjv45I
Results B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uso-f3rc94s
AbsoluteZero
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PepsimanVsJoe said:
360/PS3 right...RIGHT?
If you bought the Wii version don't bother.
Game Over screen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NriAyJ-SUUY
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Because Iizuka doesn't think Mega Drive/Game Gear titles are important enough for this because they are not from "recent memory".Billychu said:Why are there no Triple Trouble references
Sunset Park Act 3...
You should pick Colours up next.PepsimanVsJoe said:
Ah, that's unfortunate, but you shouldn't feel ashamed about it. People of many ages like Mario, comic books, etc, so I don't see why Sonic should be the exception to the rule.ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Billychu said:
I remember playing sonic drift 2 so much on game gear because I could play as "Fang". Those Gamegear games were so much fun. Except sonic 2, that' just pissed me off.
Time Break: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwd7QcsvN90TimmiT said: