chalkitdown1
Member
By moving down with the plane then jumping. It's very easy to accidentally do it while controlling the plane and jumping around. Shit needs to be patched so you are glued to the plane.
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Sonic Mania |OT| Dreams Come True
- Thread starter Hot Coldman
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By moving down with the plane then jumping. It's very easy to accidentally do it while controlling the plane and jumping around. Shit needs to be patched so you are glued to the plane.
Do all versions have that janky animation (looks like really low framerate) when Knuckles climbs onto a ledge?
See this video for an example of what I mean (at 35 second mark):
https://youtu.be/bV8fQtaKmMI?t=33
See this video for an example of what I mean (at 35 second mark):
https://youtu.be/bV8fQtaKmMI?t=33
Hot Coldman
Banned
I can't get over how good Flying Battery Zone Act 2 sounds. The percussion is ridiculous.
Yeah agreed it's super annoying i can't use the new jump spindash anymore after 50 rings with sonic.
Diablohead
Member
Quite amazed they didn't do that for this game, guessing they wanted to keep it retro and straight forward like sonic 2.
chalkitdown1
Member
Oil Ocean Act 2 boss can go fuck itself.
The second half of this game is really putting a damper on my overall enjoyment of it.
The second half of this game is really putting a damper on my overall enjoyment of it.
The Xtortionist
Member
Just take it slow and remember that you're safe in the oil as long as you keep jumping. Once the tentacles fire their third projectile you can dash in and wreak havoc.
Also, you're coming up on a stretch of three amazing levels.
Chrizzy_81
Member
I'm also struggling big time with this boss. Getting pretty sick of oil ocean.
I've been having an absolute blast with this. Sonic 1 on the Mega Drive was my introduction to gaming and we finally have a worthy sequel to the classics in Mania.
Got all the emeralds with Sonic earlier today, going to complete my Knuckles and Tails playthroughs with the rest of the weekend.
I really thought I was going to dislike that they used so many classic stages rather than making the bulk of them new ones, but I'm super happy with what they've done with every single stage. I'm impressed in general, it never gets stale.
I've encountered one pretty major bug that was annoying though, (super sonic final boss spoilers)
Got all the emeralds with Sonic earlier today, going to complete my Knuckles and Tails playthroughs with the rest of the weekend.
I really thought I was going to dislike that they used so many classic stages rather than making the bulk of them new ones, but I'm super happy with what they've done with every single stage. I'm impressed in general, it never gets stale.
I've encountered one pretty major bug that was annoying though, (super sonic final boss spoilers)
I had real difficulty getting the hang of the SS "true" final boss, and went from 23 lives to 4 before I beat him for the first time. The "final hit" animation didn't trigger, I think because I somehow beat Robotnik before I beat the other thing, and I was sat there until Sonic ran out of rings and died. Had to do it again then it was fine ;-;
Real talk the second half of this game is hard but it isn't bullshit garbage like Sonic 2 so I'm counting my blessings.
UnemployedVillain
Member
Honestly, I'm finding this more frustrating and myself more prone to death than in Sonic Rush, which was known for those things. There are too many places where you can go behind without any real indication, and so underwater sections not have air bubbles anymore? It's like if you know you're a certain distance from the surface you know 100% you're dying
chalkitdown1
Member
I hope so! 'Cos these last 3 have been piss poor in my opinion. I was enjoying the game immensely up until that water Zone.
Diablohead
Member
That's one of the moments in the game where movement position is tied to animation, In sonic 3 the monkey bars were the same but they improved those for mania.
The Xtortionist
Member
Go behind?
The water section in Chemical Plant doesn't have bubbles, but it's laid out so you should have enough time to make it to the top without drowning. If you fall down in the narrow climb section, there's a special ring in the bottom right that will drain the water.
Seriously annoyed with it right now lol. I'm at Mirage Saloon Act 1 as Knuckles and the new music for this zone is fantastic. The Knuckles exclusive level design is really cool too-- it's just too bad I don't get to actually experience either properly. 😒
Next playthrough I think I'm just gonna look up and memorize where the giant rings are in TMZ so that I can just stay at six and purposely fail the rest until then so that I don't get them too early.
Hot Coldman
Banned
My favourite thing today was going Super Knuckles on that thing's arse. God I hate that boss.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
not at the end yet, about 3/4 zones away.
The best fights in the game are the hard boiled heavies and chemical plant act 2 boss.
Dont know what they were thinking with the super sonic fight.
tfw everyone hates Oil Ocean Act 2 but on my first run I didnt even get hit once until halfway through the boss and still beat it in one try
http://i.imgur.com/lKQfPW3.gif works basically every time.
EDIT: Imgur says this GIF has 2500 views now lmao
http://i.imgur.com/lKQfPW3.gif works basically every time.
EDIT: Imgur says this GIF has 2500 views now lmao
When silver sonic charges a spin dash in the middle of the room then spin dash into him without charging. When Sliver Sonic charges a spin dash in the left or right corners of the room then hit him with a fully charged spin dash.
Completed Sonic & Tails playthrough with all emeralds along with Knuckles.
As for the Super forms does anyone else feel they are underwhelming including how they are handled. I mean coming from the Hyper forms in S3K, the Super forms here feel quite bland. After finding out they had no plans to add the Hyper forms I was hoping they would atleast carry over the abilities to the Super forms unfortunately this isn't the case. Not only that but the way you activate them is annoying. Perhaps I got too used to rom hacks that made it so you have to press 2 buttons to transform, but I was really hoping they would do that here.
However, with that being said this game is still awesome and is 2nd too Sonic 2 and 3K for me.
As for the Super forms does anyone else feel they are underwhelming including how they are handled. I mean coming from the Hyper forms in S3K, the Super forms here feel quite bland. After finding out they had no plans to add the Hyper forms I was hoping they would atleast carry over the abilities to the Super forms unfortunately this isn't the case. Not only that but the way you activate them is annoying. Perhaps I got too used to rom hacks that made it so you have to press 2 buttons to transform, but I was really hoping they would do that here.
However, with that being said this game is still awesome and is 2nd too Sonic 2 and 3K for me.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I actually don't mind the act at all! It's better than Act 1 for sure, the fire/oil gimmick is great (and much preferable to how Sandopolis did it), the boss just took a lot of wind out of my sails.
Oil Ocean is still a fucking bizarre choice though. Not exactly the most fondly remembered zone.
I was super confused figuring him as Super Knuckles-- instead of
spindashing lil Silver Sonic when it's directly below Metal, you have to spindash when it's next to the wall either on the left or right.
Oil Ocean isn't that bizarre. It's really the only other Sonic 2 zone they could use. I suppose they could have also used Mystic Cave but then they would have had to replace Lava Reef with something else.
I lold when I saw Act 2 has gimmicks from
Sandopolis
Hot Coldman
Banned
I wouldn't have minded Hidden Palace getting the proper 2-Act treatment. You're not wrong - I would have liked Launch Base, perhaps instead, if I could suggest outside of StH2?
Man, this spider boss is making me nuts.
I know I need to hit him into the spikes but most hits barely budge him (and sometimes I jump through him). Ive actually run out of time multiple timed, I must be doing something wrong. Help
The Xtortionist
Member
Should have been a new level disguised as Sunset Park
the fire shield interaction justifies Oil Ocean imo
Swinging into him using the spinning poles should guarantee a hit. For other hits try to spin dash and then jump into him.
Do you also use those yellow sling poles? I just beat that boss that way always, jump into him when they come on screen and sling into him for a easy hit
And remember, Sonic swings in the direction you aim with your d-pad, don't need to wait on any animation! 
skullomania
Member
Quick question -
Do you reckon that the zone order was changed at the last minute during development, which is why some level transitions are "missing".
My reason for this thinking is animations may have been created to link certain levels, but due to a re-shuffle they needed to be taken out, and didn't have time to rework them.
Any one else think this may have been the case?
Do you reckon that the zone order was changed at the last minute during development, which is why some level transitions are "missing".
My reason for this thinking is animations may have been created to link certain levels, but due to a re-shuffle they needed to be taken out, and didn't have time to rework them.
Any one else think this may have been the case?
I think they just ran out of time to finish up the last few transitions. The order of the zones themselves seems like something they decided on pretty early on based on the story.
That didn't seem to work but ill try again. Honestly, for all the praise this is getting, some seems pretty janky. Even get lots of slowdown on x1
Mr.Fletcher
Member
If you try to hit his red bumper while it's still shaking, you will go through it.
Also worth pointing out the game got delayed from spring to summer so they clearly had other priorities to deal with other than level transitions.
Hell, I posted on the last page about enjoying the new Oil Ocean. Only reason I died a few times in this zone was searching for special stage rings and getting killed by something silly along the way. No issue with the boss either - the only boss I had real trouble with was the Flying Battery 2 boss, compared to that Oil Ocean 2 was pretty straightforward.
Super Sonic should count, that's how I did it.
There are giant rings hidden in secret rooms in the levels, jump in one to go to a special stage.
There are giant rings hidden in the stages. Touching one will take you into a bonus stage for an emerald.
Man i tried that with super sonic and super knuckles and neither time it popped up for me.
If theres video proof it works id like to see it cause otherwise its bugged.
I just opted to do the achievement in time trial mode.
That's how I tried to do it and it didn't register.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
oh.
Oh I beat
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Holy fuck at the zone after that, fucking
Oh I beat
FBZ
Holy fuck at the zone after that, fucking
Press Garden.