Kor of Memory
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You need to complete the game with Knuckles &
Knuckles
It lets you play as Knuckles in the final zone and also has a unique ending.
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Sonic Mania |OT| Dreams Come True
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You need to complete the game with Knuckles &
It lets you play as Knuckles in the final zone and also has a unique ending.
I'd like official levels from the Sonic 3 multiplayer stages like Endless Mine, Chrome Gadget, or Azure Lake.
It really is amazing. I hoped it would be good, but wasn't expecting much. Granted it has only been out a week, but I can't stop playing it, and I think it might be one of the five best platformers ever made.
RecRoulette
Member
Probably cut because that act was long enough as it is.
As I've said earlier, if we get classic stages I'd rather they be heavy reworkings of oddball early Sonic games. A 2D version of a 3D Blast stage, 2D version of a Sonic R stage, Sonic Spinball stage that uses the pinaball here and there, reworked Chaotix stage, game gear and master system games, etc. with more new stages than old.
I feel like Sonic Mania being classic Sonic should stick to pre-Adventure era if there ever to be a Mania 2. Those dudes had 18 years of modern Sonic and Sonic Forces celebrates all that, for better or worse. Therefor Mania should stick to out potbelly Sonic's run.
I feel like Sonic Mania being classic Sonic should stick to pre-Adventure era if there ever to be a Mania 2. Those dudes had 18 years of modern Sonic and Sonic Forces celebrates all that, for better or worse. Therefor Mania should stick to out potbelly Sonic's run.
Using Gamegear levels or any other Sonic that isn't 1, 2, CD, 3, or K wouldn't make much sense. The reuse of Genesis levels was a way to save time and money because of asset reuse. Gamegear levels or any other obscure Sonic game from the past would have to be made from scratch. Might as well go with new zones in that case.
so is it confirmed that Mirage Saloon act 1 is just the worst fucking zone?
while I appreciate the change of pace, not only is it rather slow, but it seems to break constantly. sonic falls off the plane half the time and I don't understand why. sometimes spinning works, sometimes he just goes off the edge. It's driving me nuts and making me not want to play. Any tips?
while I appreciate the change of pace, not only is it rather slow, but it seems to break constantly. sonic falls off the plane half the time and I don't understand why. sometimes spinning works, sometimes he just goes off the edge. It's driving me nuts and making me not want to play. Any tips?
The Xtortionist
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One rev on a spin dash should be safe. I wouldn't advise drop dashing, either.
Makes a lot of sense though. I was wondering why it was possible to damage them, and why you had to be both bad enough at the fight yet good enough to stay alive to see them all.
I didn't even realize Heavy Rider was part of the set until I spent long enough dicking around and landing no hits on him.
Enter the secret level select and you can play final zone as Knuckles or Tails directly for Tails that is the only way to play it too even.
Need to have beaten it as Sonic tho on a normal file once.
Hype for the new ARMS fighter has temporarily distracted me from this game, but I still have the itch to play it.
You won't fall off the plane if you're just jumping normally. Just use jumps to dodge and attack enemies, and/or steer around them with the plane. Also, when you reach the boss, just park at the bottom of the screen, toward the middle of the left side; the boss will continually jump over you and you can just jump to safely hit his head each time.
Thanks guys! I'll give it another shot. Fell off standing still once and just walking normally once too.. guess it might have been a bug. Just wanna get past this haha.
Finally finished the game with Sonic and Tails, san the 7 Chaos Emerald which I am currently working towards, just have the last two to get.
Honestly while I enjoyed the game and glad to finally to have a good Sonic game on Nintendo system after the mess that occurred during the Wii U and 3DS era, however it just feels a tad to similar to generation and Sonic 4 episode 1 in the sense that Sonic goes through time to replay levels in past games with only 4 news level all of which were good and fun to play and I wanted to see more of that.
I also didn't like how long the final level was as it just caused me to stress out as I had to rush it just so I wouldn't get a time over and the developers knew that Act 2 was so long that they reset the time for the final boss.
I also don't like the drop dash as I found it to be useless outside of speed running and I wished that I could swap it out for the insta-shield attack.
The checkpoint bonus game is fun to play but it's far to long to be a checkpoint mini game, which makes sense since it was never meant to be that and it just feels so disconnected from the game itself as the one in Sonic 3 and Knuckles rewarded the players with shields, 1-ups or rings.
I am not a fan of mid stage-boss as I much prefer having Sonic run to the finish line in act 1 and fight the boss in act 2, plus there were only a few that I liked fighting.
In all I enjoyed Sonic Mania and I will play it again and I can't wait to see how Sonic Mania 2 improve on it.
Plus Mania
The Airplane levels have always sucked in Sonic games and I remorse to see the gimmick to return in Mania without it being fun or improve upon with the controls.
Plus a part of me is disappointed that the Train section of the level wasn't longer or was the Act gimmick as I would have liked it if the act was where Sonic had to chase the train, climbed aboard the train then got shot out of the Train and onto the plane and the rest of the act was the the plane with it leading into the boss fight.
Honestly while I enjoyed the game and glad to finally to have a good Sonic game on Nintendo system after the mess that occurred during the Wii U and 3DS era, however it just feels a tad to similar to generation and Sonic 4 episode 1 in the sense that Sonic goes through time to replay levels in past games with only 4 news level all of which were good and fun to play and I wanted to see more of that.
I also didn't like how long the final level was as it just caused me to stress out as I had to rush it just so I wouldn't get a time over and the developers knew that Act 2 was so long that they reset the time for the final boss.
I also don't like the drop dash as I found it to be useless outside of speed running and I wished that I could swap it out for the insta-shield attack.
The checkpoint bonus game is fun to play but it's far to long to be a checkpoint mini game, which makes sense since it was never meant to be that and it just feels so disconnected from the game itself as the one in Sonic 3 and Knuckles rewarded the players with shields, 1-ups or rings.
I am not a fan of mid stage-boss as I much prefer having Sonic run to the finish line in act 1 and fight the boss in act 2, plus there were only a few that I liked fighting.
In all I enjoyed Sonic Mania and I will play it again and I can't wait to see how Sonic Mania 2 improve on it.
Plus Mania
tying into Sonic Forces got me super hyped up for Forces.
The Airplane levels have always sucked in Sonic games and I remorse to see the gimmick to return in Mania without it being fun or improve upon with the controls.
Plus a part of me is disappointed that the Train section of the level wasn't longer or was the Act gimmick as I would have liked it if the act was where Sonic had to chase the train, climbed aboard the train then got shot out of the Train and onto the plane and the rest of the act was the the plane with it leading into the boss fight.
Actually, if I'm counting correctly, 19 of the 25 acts are effectively new.
Each of the eight returning zones has at least one new act. SSZ and MMZ appear to have completely remade both acts, so that's 10 new stages. Then you have the four new zones -- that's another eight new acts. Then you have the Knuckles variant of MSZ Act 1, bringing the total to 19 new acts.
Each of the eight returning zones has at least one new act. SSZ and MMZ appear to have completely remade both acts, so that's 10 new stages. Then you have the four new zones -- that's another eight new acts. Then you have the Knuckles variant of MSZ Act 1, bringing the total to 19 new acts.
You'd have to get into fractions as well, as many of the "returning" acts still have all new routes. GHZ1 has a completely new cave section that Knuckles starts in and Sonic/Tails can head into by descending in the lower routes, for instance.
The Xtortionist
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Extras are unlocked by completing blue sphere levels.
Not every extra goes into the extra menu. Most of them are "secret" options on the No Save mode, which you can access by pressing the top face button when hovering over it.
Oh, okay. That explains a lot. I was wondering where & Knuckles mode was. Must've not done enough blue sphere stages to unlock what's on the Extra menu. Thanks!
They're tied to Blue Sphere medals. If you have a few unlocks, check the NoSave file and press Triangle / X (depending on if you're on PS4 or Switch).
ZombiePlatypus
Member
So I beat the game with minimal stuff, and got the Robotnick "try again" screen. I'm assuming there is a better ending? What extras can I unlock?
Also, as someone who never beat the older genesis games, I couldn't tell what levels were remixed and which ones were brand new ones. All the levels felt like they seamlessly belong together.
Also, as someone who never beat the older genesis games, I couldn't tell what levels were remixed and which ones were brand new ones. All the levels felt like they seamlessly belong together.
The try again ending happens if you dont get all the Chaos Emeralds by doing special stages. You can sort of new game+ your clear save file and get them without starting all over. Getting the emeralds unlocks Super forms for all characters, and for Sonic, it unlocks
an extra final boss
Theres also a few unlockable modes you can unlock by doing Blue Spheres stages, like
Sonic CD and Sonic 3 modes for Sonic to use the super peel out or instashield, an & Knuckles mode that lets you pair Knuckles with any other character, and more.
TheCongressman1
Member
I really want to stack the secret moves, and I want to use them for save files. It's not like that would screw up leaderboards or something.
I wonder if modders will mod the modders game.
I wonder if modders will mod the modders game.
Elfforkusu
Member
Yeah, that's been the only way I've died to that boss. My solution has been to gtfo of the oil, the instakill rate is too high
bizzarewars
Banned
Same, I can't put it down. I figured it would probably turn out alright considering Whitehead's pedigree with those ports, but damn... this is a hell of a game.
I really wish there was some sort of "cheat mode" where you can play with the extra abilities And being able to save. Hell, leaderboards could simply be deactivated when you used them in normal save files.
I get why you can't use them in normal gameplay, but I rarely feel in the mood to beat a Sonic game in one sitting anymore, let alone the longest one ever.
I get why you can't use them in normal gameplay, but I rarely feel in the mood to beat a Sonic game in one sitting anymore, let alone the longest one ever.
Elfforkusu
Member
With debug mode you can insta-finish any level, and from the secret level select screen you can jump to where you left off.
So, there are workarounds!
TheCongressman1
Member
Leaderboards aren't even connected to the main game at all. There's no reason to not allow them on normal saves.
WouldYouKindly
Banned
Gonna get a switch this friday for my bday how is sonic with the game pad? Or should i go pro to have a d pad
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I can't put this in my Top Ten if only because it has a relatively limited scope and I can easily see room for improvement in places.
It's not a "flawless" experience like some of my all time favorites like Majora's Mask or Bloodborne (outside hardware limitations).
That said, I would not argue with anyone who said this WAS their favorite game of all time... there's just so much to love. I do believe it's one of the absolute best of this gen.
supermarioworldE
Banned
Just bought this yesterday and I'm satisfied so far. All the positives and negatives I noted from the trailer are all in the game. The physics and level design are superb. The characters animate beautifully. The music is nice, and the presentation is great. It really is a nostalgic ride that plays just as good, if not better than the classic genesis titles.
The only real thing I have a problem with are the reused zones. I've played so many versions of Green Hill Zone and Chemical Plant Zone so many times that Im really feeling the fatigue. The new levels are more interesting to me and are absolutely gorgeous. Studiopolis, visually, is like a Sonic CD level without the garish colors.
The special stages are tough, but that's expected. It's nice to see something different, even if they do remind me of the ones from Sonic CD.
Like Sonic 3&K, the different characters add unique ways to get through the stages, and I enjoy trying them all out.
Having played so little so far, I'll probably have more to talk about when I beat this game 2-3 times, but it's exactly what I was expecting, and I'm pleased.
The only real thing I have a problem with are the reused zones. I've played so many versions of Green Hill Zone and Chemical Plant Zone so many times that Im really feeling the fatigue. The new levels are more interesting to me and are absolutely gorgeous. Studiopolis, visually, is like a Sonic CD level without the garish colors.
The special stages are tough, but that's expected. It's nice to see something different, even if they do remind me of the ones from Sonic CD.
Like Sonic 3&K, the different characters add unique ways to get through the stages, and I enjoy trying them all out.
Having played so little so far, I'll probably have more to talk about when I beat this game 2-3 times, but it's exactly what I was expecting, and I'm pleased.
Unknown?
Member
A platforming stage in Toxic Caves would be amazing!
I feel like there were so many new and interesting mechanics in Mania's CPZ that it was basically almost a new zone. Besides I could never tire of that music, and the Act 2 theme was sweet.
The Xtortionist
Member
Yeah, I'd love to see an obscure-ass classic level list
-Sky Base
-Mecha Green Hill
-Sunset Park
-Toxic Caves
-Newtrogic High Zone (Act 1 is Isolated Island, then you would get a playable transition through the hub with dat music and select a Chaotix partner that would behave similar to A.I. Tails. Transition ends with Sonic getting shot off to another Knuckles Chaotix level - likely Botanic Base because dat other music. Finally you transition back to the hub and fight Red Metal Sonic as the boss
let me dream dammit
It'd need Chaos Angel along with that just for the music.
Techno Base > Cyber Track
TheUnsunghero26
Member
I love this game, but it definitely needs a patch. Almost every time I try to do a time trial the game will lose music after getting a power up (speed shoes or invisibility) and crash after completing the level or restarting.
It's a better level, yeah, but when I argue in favor of Advance 3 stuff it's almost exclusively because of the music
Cyber Track's theme is just a lamer version of Techno Base anyway 😠
For the first time, I'm actually using the PS4 share button. I like how simple this is. I've converted some videos to Gifs:
valinthyne
Member
You got shot by the left tentacle in the random death one.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I really wish the Switch would accept the Saturn USB controller.
I like the Pro Controller; but put me in the camp that thinks it has a pretty weak D-pad.
I like the Pro Controller; but put me in the camp that thinks it has a pretty weak D-pad.
TheCongressman1
Member
Does anyone just use analog? I find it much more comfortable.
valinthyne
Member
Really need a patch to fix this home/sleep button issue on Switch. Just had a moment of not being able to put the Switch into sleep mode, home screen, or get rid of the quick menu for a solid 5 mins. Thats with using the joy con button, touch controls on the quick menu, and the physical power/sleep button.