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SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4 or AGAINST |OT| of Huelen in Green-Eyed Heaven

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Chao

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RurouniZel said:
Radical!
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Milhouse said:
I say "radical"! That's my thing that I say!
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JimiNutz

JimiNutz

Banned
I'll probably want to play this at some point, but I think I'll wait until all the episodes are out and it's a full game.
 
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dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Any word on the iPhone price? I'm tempted to try it out, but if it's $15 like the other versions, I doubt I'll jump on board. In fact, I feel that would kill iPhone sales right there as people just aren't used to playing $15 for iPhone games. Even massive games such as Chaos Rings are cheaper and that was at the top end of the scale.

Also, they better have targeted 60 fps or else their entire effort has been wasted.

Worst case? $15 iPhone version running at 30 fps.
 
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Foxtastical

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N4Us said:
Stop the segregation. Start the integration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7623sTo6JE
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Cool mix.

For years I heard nothing but how superior the EU/JPN soundtrack was to Spencer Nilsen's stuff. After I developed my own sense of opinion and stopped being a child, I realized Nilsen's is totally hot. (Still, I really like the EU/JPN one as well).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkLVddtjPCU

Really, it was like you were an outcast if you didn't think the EU/JPN soundtrack was the greatest thing ever. Hopefully that crowd of people is gone.
 
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dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Foxtastical said:
Cool mix.

For years I heard nothing but how superior the EU/JPN soundtrack was to Spencer Nilsen's stuff. After I developed my own sense of opinion and stopped being a child, I realized Nilsen's is totally hot. (Still, I really like the EU/JPN one as well).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkLVddtjPCU

Really, it was like you were an outcast if you didn't think the EU/JPN soundtrack was the greatest thing ever. Hopefully that crowd of people is gone.
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Yeah, I also quite like them both.

The original soundtrack is very "808 State", which is great, while Nilson goes for something pretty different. I'm glad both soundtracks were made available.

I do recall being super disappointed with this as a kid, however, simply because I did not expect the difference. I had some Sonic screensaver thing which included all of the soundtracks in WAV format (low bitrate, but still nice). I had not played Sonic CD at that point and the soundtrack on the screensaver was taken from the Japanese version. So when I finally got my hands on Sonic CD, I was expecting that music, not the stuff created by Nilson. At the time, I was disappointed, but I've come to enjoy it in the end.
 
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Segata Sanshiro

Member
dark10x said:
Any word on the iPhone price? I'm tempted to try it out, but if it's $15 like the other versions, I doubt I'll jump on board. In fact, I feel that would kill iPhone sales right there as people just aren't used to playing $15 for iPhone games. Even massive games such as Chaos Rings are cheaper and that was at the top end of the scale.

Also, they better have targeted 60 fps or else their entire effort has been wasted.

Worst case? $15 iPhone version running at 30 fps.
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Equivalent of $10 in Japan for the iPhone, so I'm pretty sure it'll come in around that price in NA.
 
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AssassiN

got the wrong hit
is the iPhone version of this likely to hit bang on midnight GMT like a lot of iPhone games do? Or are we likely to end up waiting till later in the day?
 
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HamPster PamPster

Member
I LOVED SONIC 3D BLAST

Sorry but I just had to get that off my chest. Sure this game seems to have its faults... but who am I to judge? I love Sonic 3D Blast, maybe I'll love this too?
 
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Peff

Member
So the "good" stages aren't on iOS :-/? I thought it was weird that they'd keep both and mess up the act count but they should have gone with the new ones...

I *think* it's going to hit tomorrow GMT but I'm not sure.
 
Upsidedown Fuji

Upsidedown Fuji

Member
HamPster PamPster said:
I LOVED SONIC 3D BLAST

Sorry but I just had to get that off my chest. Sure this game seems to have its faults... but who am I to judge? I love Sonic 3D Blast, maybe I'll love this too?
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I liked the Saturn version's music. The game was alright but I had more fun with Sonic R.
 
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dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Peff said:
So the "good" stages aren't on iOS :-/? I thought it was weird that they'd keep both and mess up the act count but they should have gone with the new ones...

I *think* it's going to hit tomorrow GMT but I'm not sure.
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What do you mean by that? The "good" stages? What content differences will there be between the different versions?
 
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Peff

Member
dark10x said:
What do you mean by that? The "good" stages? What content differences will there be between the different versions?
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Back when the game was leaked, there were two particular stages that really caused an uproar, the one with the mine cart and another that was a one screen pinball where you just had to achieve 100.000 points and the door to the giant ring would open. Later on, Sega announced that the game would be delayed and they'd work on making two brand new traditional levels to replace them and at the same time they announced that the iPhone version would be getting two exclusive levels, that is, it just has the old ones unremoved. But in the video up there, Ruby says that the two new levels are exclusive to the console versions of the game while showing one of them (which actually looks pretty cool).

Other than that, there aren't many more differences. The iOS version has a gimmick where every time there's a loop the entire screen rotates, possibly the framerate might be lower and maybe it won't have the world map, but that should be about it.
 
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Catalix

And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
HamPster PamPster said:
I LOVED SONIC 3D BLAST

Sorry but I just had to get that off my chest. Sure this game seems to have its faults... but who am I to judge? I love Sonic 3D Blast, maybe I'll love this too?
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I'm indifferent to 3D Blast, but I love this post :lol
 
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dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Jazzy Network said:
I wouldn't say I loved 3D Blast but I liked it. Saturn version was good and the soundtrack by Richard Jacques was amazing.
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Yeah, it was alright. Not a great Sonic game, but still fun enough. Would have been infinitely better with real analog controls, however.
 
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Catalix

And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Suzuki Yu said:
i don't know if it was posted before but

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20018674-1.html

a video interview featuring Ruby with a long demo containing map world , Casino street act2,3 and Mad Gear act1

i really like what i am seeing
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The playing card gimmick is a pretty neat idea. Nice alternative to the slot machine.

Jazzy Network said:
I wouldn't say I loved 3D Blast but I liked it. Saturn version was good and the soundtrack by Richard Jacques was amazing.
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I never played the Saturn version of 3D Blast, only the Genesis one. I remember being slightly disappointed, but not thinking it was necessarily bad.

Were there any major differences in the Saturn version (besides the special stages)?
 
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Chao

Member
Suzuki Yu said:
i don't know if it was posted before but

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20018674-1.html

a video interview featuring Ruby with a long demo containing map world , Casino street act2,3 and Mad Gear act1

i really like what i am seeing
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This is the color of the original shield for Sonic, Ruby:

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NOT GREEN

Game looks better than what we saw the first time, physics still are a bit floaty, backgrounds are bland at times and the spinning legs animation is ugly as hell, but it does look better.
I'll try the demo, but 15$ is a bit too much.
 
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Catalix

And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
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Lijik

Member
Chao said:
Game looks better than what we saw the first time, physics still are a bit floaty, backgrounds are bland at times and the spinning legs animation is ugly as hell, but it does look better.
I'll try the demo, but 15$ is a bit too much.
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These are pretty much my thoughts, I also rather liked the new Casino act 2.
 
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Diablohead

Member
Watching that cnet video, fuck the first thing the player does in the playing segment is jump and fucking air dash for speed, FUCK YOU SEGA :/
 
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sonikokaruto

Banned
Diablohead said:
Watching that cnet video, fuck the first thing the player does in the playing segment is jump and fucking air dash for speed, FUCK YOU SEGA :/
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Should have just crouched and spindash, right!? Right!?

Stupid spindash, ruined sonic for me. I preferred the have to build up speed and have trouble doing it, rather than going crouch button button button instant speed!

Fucking weirdos
 
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The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Okay, they literally directly ripped off Casino Night in every respect, including mechanically. I mean, you're supposed to keep the movement physics the same and innovate with level design, not the other way around!
 
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Diablohead

Member
sonikokaruto said:
Should have just crouched and spindash, right!? Right!?

Stupid spindash, ruined sonic for me. I preferred the have to build up speed and have trouble doing it, rather than going crouch button button button instant speed!

Fucking weirdos
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Spindash = you are in a ball, jumping from a ball in classic games meant you had no air control, plus you are rolling and have to be stood completely still to activate the spindash.

Air dash = jump and jump again, instant speed and you are running so it's like a lame shortcut to "earning momentum" as ruby would wrongfully explain sonic 4.

Fucking weirdos
 
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RagnarokX

Member
Suzuki Yu said:
i don't know if it was posted before but

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20018674-1.html

a video interview featuring Ruby with a long demo containing map world , Casino street act2,3 and Mad Gear act1

i really like what i am seeing
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"After 16 years and countless games and appearances, we finally get to play a new side-scrolling Sonic game in Sonic the Hedgehog 4. A direct sequel to Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 4 propels the franchise into the world of HD gaming but remains loyal to the hard-core fanbase that helped make the franchise so iconic."

Yeah... no.

Looks like Casino Street Act 2 is a huge improvement.
 
.la1n

.la1n

Member
RagnarokX said:
"After 16 years and countless games and appearances, we finally get to play a new side-scrolling Sonic game in Sonic the Hedgehog 4. A direct sequel to Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 4 propels the franchise into the world of HD gaming but remains loyal to the hard-core fanbase that helped make the franchise so iconic."

Yeah... no.

Looks like Casino Street Act 2 is a huge improvement.
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well it's not like he could say "here is a new sonic ad...I mean sonic 4 game that will please people who like sidescrollers but has completely alienated the original fanbase in the process unfortunately due to our complete lack of respect to what made the originals memorable in the first place, I sorryz"
 
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RobbieNick

Junior Member
HamPster PamPster said:
I LOVED SONIC 3D BLAST

Sorry but I just had to get that off my chest. Sure this game seems to have its faults... but who am I to judge? I love Sonic 3D Blast, maybe I'll love this too?
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http://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/2010/06/retro-review-sonic-3-d-blast-saturn/

Here's a review I did of it earlier this year. Hope it was the Saturn version you liked. Cuz that one is far superior to the Genesis version. Love that bonus stage music.

That CNET video has seriously got me hyped for this game now. Homing attack be damned, that was classic Sonic/classic platforming right there. Loved the card bit and Mad Gear looked like a tough but fun time. Finally gonna HA that Shellcracker motherfucker!:lol
 
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I AM JOHN!

Banned
ShadiWulf said:
Buy two versions of the game and get your name put up in a a list in a sticky thread on the sonic 4 forums!

Buy three versions of the game and get your name put up in a list on an ultra cool spot unannounced as of now.

Buy ALL versions and get a youtube shoutout video with your name in it!

http://www.destructoid.com/sega-rewarding-multiple-purchases-of-sonic-4-185785.phtml
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mrplow8 in the Destructoid comments said:
So the more versions of the game you buy, the more you get publicly exposed as being an idiot who paid several times for the same game?
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Is someone going to volunteer to be the official watch of who on GAF posts in that thread so we can shame them?
 
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Zen

Banned
The new Casino Street Zone is actually pretty neat. I still wasn't a an of the other Casino Street Zone shown, but what can you do.

I just got a decent amount of money, so I might buy this at full price, but I think I'll still hold off for a sale.
 
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Mr. B Natural

Member
ShadiWulf said:
Buy two versions of the game and get your name put up in a a list in a sticky thread on the sonic 4 forums!

Buy three versions of the game and get your name put up in a list on an ultra cool spot unannounced as of now.

Buy ALL versions and get a youtube shoutout video with your name in it!

http://www.destructoid.com/sega-rewarding-multiple-purchases-of-sonic-4-185785.phtml
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I was about to compliment you on your fantastic sense of humor but then I clicked the link.
 
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TL4E

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RobbieNick

Junior Member
As someone who will be buying multiple versions for a comparison article (and cuz the Wii version comes on my day off and I can't wait), this is nothing more than a nice nod and shoutout to the fans. It's not like they're giving you a BJ for buying multiple copies.:lol
 
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ShadiWulf

Member
RobbieNick said:
As someone who will be buying multiple versions for a comparison article (and cuz the Wii version comes on my day off and I can't wait), this is nothing more than a nice nod and shoutout to the fans. It's not like they're giving you a BJ for buying multiple copies.:lol
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RobbieNick
Sonic Team's Bitch
(Today, 03:25 PM)
 
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TL4E

Member
RobbieNick said:
As someone who will be buying multiple versions for a comparison article (and cuz the Wii version comes on my day off and I can't wait), this is nothing more than a nice nod and shoutout to the fans. It's not like they're giving you a BJ for buying multiple copies.:lol
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Putting your name on a website for buying multiple copies of the same game is not a "nice nod," it's more of a "fuck you buying the game once isn't good enough so if you want us to acknowledge your existence buy unnecessary extras."

It's just capitalistic exploitation of the sonic-obsessed.
 
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Starwolf_UK

Member
I AM JOHN! said:
Is someone going to volunteer to be the official watch of who on GAF posts in that thread so we can shame them?
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What happens when we find GAF members?

As for the people buying all 4 the youtube comments will probably be enough humiliation. With lots of repetition of "Sonic 4 4 times".
 
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Starwolf_UK

Member
theultimo said:
$60 for 4 versions.... On top of that, how are they going to track it?
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Pictures and posting them in a thread.
RubyEclipse said:
Starting next week on Monday, this thread will unlock and you'll be able to post pictures to confirm which versions you own. From there, here's what we plan to do:

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The list here will be updated every few days for two weeks following the Xbox Live launch of the game next Wednesday. The 27th of the month will be the final day to submit pictures of the versions you own, and following that Ken and I will start filming the video for anyone who sends in pictures to prove that they're truly a super-collector and huge supporter of the game.
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