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[Nocturnowl]

You've got to factor in a few points regarding DLC here...

Other Sonic games like Unleashed had pretty weak DLC, hard mode versions of stages, stages slapped together with a few bits and pieces using already existing levels as a base.
So i'd say we don't really have a strong track record so far and I imagine the reasons for this is as follows.

Creating a good 3D Sonic stage takes a lot of time which is likely why most Sonic games don't have many stages compared to the rest of the genre (you'll notice Colours that does have the most stages tends to modify stages to create new shorter ones), to create a new stage from the ground up would be a lot of work for DLC which is probably why Schala mentioned asset reuse to aid in this.
Even so it's probably a better time and money investment to work on a whole new game rather then spend time making brand new stages for Generations.

 

[BlackJace]

You've got to factor in a few points regarding DLC here...

Other Sonic games like Unleashed had pretty weak DLC, hard mode versions of stages, stages slapped together with a few bits and pieces using already existing levels as a base.
So i'd say we don't really have a strong track record so far and I imagine the reasons for this is as follows.

Creating a good 3D Sonic stage takes a lot of time which is likely why most Sonic games don't have many stages compared to the rest of the genre (you'll notice Colours that does have the most stages tends to modify stages to create new shorter ones), to create a new stage from the ground up would be a lot of work for DLC which is probably why Schala mentioned asset reuse to aid in this.
Even so it's probably a better time and money investment to work on a whole new game rather then spend time making brand new stages for Generations.

Well of course we shouldn't expect them to shit out monthly DLC like many AAA titles nowadays do, but even a sizable update pack with a stage and maybe a playable Shadow would've been alright.

I've even thought that the Shadow rival fight would've been pretty sweet as a Versus mode.

 

[Gattuso]

there might have been another playable character if the gamesave is anything to go by but if i try to load the character up the game freezes right before the loading screen fades away.

 

[Dark Schala]

Dat DS.

I assume that you're on NG+, so it shouldn't be too difficult atm.

Go with Ayla (Bronze Fist, Angel's Tiara, Prism Dress, Prism Spectacles), second character/endgame spoilers

Spoiler

Magus (Dreamreaper, Prism Helm, Shadowplume Robe, Gold Stud (essential!))

, and Marle (Venus Bow, Regal Gown/Prism Dress, Angel's Tiara/Prism Helm/Reptite Tiara, and Gold Stud/Silver Stud/Prism Specs/Pontic Mirror).

There is a reason why Crono/Ayla/

Spoiler

Magus

are the most broken team in that game, and that's due to their speed stats and general power.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Chrono Trigger needed super bosses.

 

[Seven Force]

Chrono Trigger needed super bosses.

I would have liked something pretty strong to fight, yeah. Even

Spoiler

Dream Devourer

in the DS version is pretty easy because of how OP you'd be by the time you get to it.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

They didn't seem to go for that sort of thing in SNES RPG's too much.

 

[BlackJace]

I assume that you're on NG+, so it shouldn't be too difficult atm.

Go with Ayla (Bronze Fist, Angel's Tiara, Prism Dress, Prism Spectacles), second character/endgame spoilers

Spoiler

Magus (Dreamreaper, Prism Helm, Shadowplume Robe, Gold Stud (essential!))

, and Marle (Venus Bow, Regal Gown/Prism Dress, Angel's Tiara/Prism Helm/Reptite Tiara, and Gold Stud/Silver Stud/Prism Specs/Pontic Mirror).

There is a reason why Crono/Ayla/

Spoiler

Magus

are the most broken team in that game, and that's due to their speed stats and general power.

Thank you! Lavos Core keeps getting me with Grandstone, that's my biggest problem.

 

[Seven Force]

Yeah, there were a ton of games from that era with optional bosses, but I don't really think the "Super Ultra Strong Final Boss that quite possibly may be stronger than the final boss" variation really caught on until the 32-Bit era.

Shinryu & Omega from FFV and Culex from Super Mario RPG are the only ones that really come to mind from the 16-Bit era.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Does the maid robot in MOTHER3 count as a super boss?

 

[BlackJace]

I love Super/Hidden bosses. Especially ones you find encounter out of nowhere.

"Oh hey let's go back to X dungeon we went to early game and see if we missed anything"

Boom, super boss

"Hey, you kids seem stronger, as your master, let me see how strong you are"

Boom, super boss

Loved em'.

 

[Seven Force]

I love Super/Hidden bosses. Especially ones you find encounter out of nowhere.

"Oh hey let's go back to X dungeon we went to early game and see if we missed anything"

Boom, super boss

"Hey, you kids seem stronger, as your master, let me see how strong you are"

Boom, super boss

Loved em'.

As weird as it sounds, optional bosses are probably one of my favorite things in gaming. Especially the ones that actually test your skill.

 

[Professor Beef]

Does the maid robot in MOTHER3 count as a super boss?

I thought it was a regular enemy. :|

 

[Hot Coldman]

I thought it was a regular enemy. :|

Yep, it's as I thought- I fucking SUCK at that game.

 

[Seven Force]

We're talking about Lil' Miss Marshmallow, right? I had a bit of trouble with her too, and I had a decently leveled team at that point.

Everything else in Mother 3 pales in comparison to Jealous Bass, though. Talk about a difficulty curve.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

As weird as it sounds, optional bosses are probably one of my favorite things in gaming. Especially the ones that actually test your skill.

Don't forget bonus dungeons! If they are in the game, I never skip them and even try to beat them.

 

[Quackula]

Write it up using substitute swear words.
I'll hide such vile words behind spoilers, For example...

Spoiler

Bollocks! Fuck! Bastard!

becomes...
Baloney! Fudge! Mustard!

...Bollocks is a swear?

 

[Noi]

I don't miss super bosses in early games that much because (usually) the bosses you fought over the course of the regular game were enough to kick your butt. Nowadays the required stuff is pathetic so I want harder optional bosses to compensate.

 

[Shadow Hog]

...Bollocks is a swear?

I believe it is in Britain, at least.

Hence why that guy from Arrival in Hell kept saying it.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Star Ocean 2 had an evil secret dungeon...don't do it, I beat it but yikes!

 

[BlackJace]

Super dungeons are painful though. Fucking Lunar Caverns in FFIV: CC was the worst thing I've ever traversed in an RPG.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

I got to level 99 of the Ancient Cave in Lufia GBC...then got killed a few steps from paydirt.

I haven't touched a Lufia game since that one came out!

 

[BlackJace]

Wonder if I should make a thread about GAFs experiences with Super Bosses.

 

[qq more]

i guess its day 7 (final) now on this strange challenge...

not sure how i feel

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Gunning for another week?

 

[qq more]

honestly, i sort of had thoughts of doing that

i mean... i really got used to it


also it kind of helps me rage less at things. not even sonic advance 2 made me drop the f bomb but then again I was probably just getting too used to dimp's shenanigans :lol

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Be a man, go until you need to curse. If you can survive the walruses, you can go for months!

 

[Malajax]

You guys see this? http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/02/happy-hedgehog-day-3/

On February 2nd in 1994, Sonic the Hedgehog 3 was released in the US, and it was dubbed “Hedgehog Day”. For the past few years, we’ve revived this day as a holiday for all Sonic fans. We’ve got some great stuff coming up this year, but we’re not ready to talk about it just yet.

Instead, we wanted to show you one of the unique items we have in our office at SEGA of America. This is a 10th Anniversary Sonic statue signed by Tom Kalinske, Al Nilsen, Madeline Schroeder, and Shinobu Toyoda. It’s truly a one-of-a-kind piece of Sonic history, and it’s pretty amazing.

From all of us to all of you… Happy Hedgehog Day, and thanks for being true blue Sonic fans.

Happy hedgehog day?

 

[Guess Who]

You guys see this? http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/02/happy-hedgehog-day-3/



Happy hedgehog day?

It spells an anagram for

Spoiler

red herring

.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Move along folks, nothing to see here!

 

[ShadiWulf]

LOL

I knew SEGA wouldn't ignore hedgehog day, I just didn't think they would be such jerks, but it's funny xD

What are they saying red herring for? Are they trying to be intentionally misleading?

 

[Kokonoe]

^ I don't quite understand what "Red Herring" means, is it a sign we're getting some Phantasy Star Online 2 info? Red Ring Rico?

@Schala Yeah, that first video I even had to stop watching after the first few 15 seconds even though I was personally checking if that was the correct video or not. He has a lot of little skits like that and they just...dreadful. When you watch his actual reviews, you have to watch him like he's a somewhat ripoff of AVGN or it gets even more annoying to watch.

 

[ShadiWulf]

^ I don't quite understand what "Red Herring" means, is it a sign we're getting some Phantasy Star Online 2 info? Red Ring Rico?

@Schala Yeah, that first video I even had to stop watching after the first few 15 seconds even though I was personally checking if that was the correct video or not. He has a lot of little skits like that and they just...dreadful. When you watch his actual reviews, you have to watch him like he's a somewhat ripoff of AVGN or it gets even more annoying to watch.

Red herring is an English-language idiom that commonly refers to a type of logical fallacy in which a clue is intentionally or unintentionally misleading or distracting from the actual issue.[1] It is also a literary device employed by writers that leads readers or characters towards a false conclusion, often used in mystery or detective fiction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

 

[Kokonoe]

kill em

 

[gutter_trash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWCnaT6Nsa0
Happy Groundhog Day with this vintage Sonic 3 commercial from Feb 2nd 1994

 

[BlackJace]

Wait, is today when were supposed to get news on Sonic stuff?

 

[BlazeHedgehog]

IT'S HEDGEHOG DAY, LET'S STREAM A SONIC GAME I'VE NEVER PLAYED BEFORE

http://www.twitch.tv/thelostskeleton

 

[ShadiWulf]

i left SEGA a puzzle of their own to solve

lol

 

[Hot Coldman]

IT'S HEDGEHOG DAY, LET'S STREAM A SONIC GAME I'VE NEVER PLAYED BEFORE

http://www.twitch.tv/thelostskeleton

Sonic and the Black Knight? Fuckin' lol

 

[BlackJace]

IT'S HEDGEHOG DAY, LET'S STREAM A SONIC GAME I'VE NEVER PLAYED BEFORE

http://www.twitch.tv/thelostskeleton

Why

 

[GAMERG0D]

I got to level 99 of the Ancient Cave in Lufia GBC...then got killed a few steps from paydirt.

I haven't touched a Lufia game since that one came out!

I haven't played a Lufia game however people have posted screenshots from Lufia 2 in threads about love in video games. I'm interested in trying them.

 

[Quackula]

qqmore said to deliver this:

I can't log on NeoGAF today because of I keep getting redirected to godaddy, no matter what. I can view the thread via http://67.227.255.239/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=8 but that doesn't let me log in. So... I guess I might not be able to post at all as long as this continues :|

and yes I tried other alternatives

(I was so tempted to sprinkle random swear words into that)

 

[BlackJace]

qqmore said to deliver this:



(I was so tempted to sprinkle random swear words into that)

Tell him he's not alone. There's a topic in OT about it. Let me find it.

 

[Quackula]

'nother message

I saw the thread from the OT via that weird IP url, and did everything they suggested.. but no go

Thanks though!

 

[BlackJace]

Bah shucks. Hopefully Gromph, or who ever handles maintenance is working on this.

 

[Seven Force]

Damn, really sucks about the redirecting thing. It only happens to me when I browse on my phone. But hey, at least qq can easily reach his no swearing quota now!

(Okay, that was mean)

 

[Dark Schala]

Poor qq. I think he's suffered enough, tbh. Too bad he's not here, because I wanted to lament about the lack of a Sonic announcement.

I haven't been redirected in the last two days when apparently it's been happening to a lot of people? Hrm.

 

[OMG Aero]

I think he is making up excuses not to post because he is now literally incapable of not swearing.

 

[Noi]

So after the tragedy that was Jak II, I fully recovered my psyche by blasting through Kirby's Epic Yarn for the first time yesterday. It's not the best game, but it did wonders for healing my wounded soul.

So now I'm sitting here wondering if I should just get Jak 3 over with as well. Sources say it's not as bad as II was, but I wonder if I'm prepared to jump into that hellfire again.

 

[Hot Coldman]

So after the tragedy that was Jak II, I fully recovered my psyche by blasting through Kirby's Epic Yarn for the first time yesterday. It's not the best game, but it did wonders for healing my wounded soul.

So now I'm sitting here wondering if I should just get Jak 3 over with as well. Sources say it's not as bad as II was, but I wonder if I'm prepared to jump into that hellfire again.

I'll go through it alongside you if ya like! I really should be going through Sly 2 (BECAUSE WHY NOT) but it kinda sucks. I'm also getting deathly bored of Far Cry 3, I've S-ranked All-Stars Racing and XCOM/Binary Domain can wait.

The only game I actively want to play at the moment is Picross e2. :lol