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Sons of Anarchy - Season 5 - Tuesdays on FX

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wenis

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Did anyone else catch the raising hope / sons of anarchy crossover on tonight's raising hope? It was funny.

I'm going to pretend that while all that serious shit is happening, the newest recruits get into wacky hijinx on the side.

Lighten the mood a bit.
 
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stormer

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pope;s right hand man.. who always shows up with him was not there when he meets jax to kill TIG? come on how convenient is that shit!

gahhh
 
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Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
All in all, I like where most of that went. They didn't squander the season's arc at the last minute, so, bravo. Big step up from season 4's finale.

Greg said:
If it was Gemma, wouldn't her story make her an accessory to murder as well?

"She told me she wanted the cross to murder someone, so I got her the cross!"
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Gemma explained in this episode what she'd say. "Tara asked me to find the cross. Later, she told me it was given to Otto so that he could kill someone to get out of RICO." Something like that.
 
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Al-ibn Kermit

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I'm surprised Juice's fingerprints weren't on the gun.

I don't think Tara will be convicted, but Jax will have to decide whether to kill Gemma so she can't testify against Tara or try to appease Gemma in some other way.

Of course, Clay is going to survive again somehow. Pretty much his only connections left are the Irish, I'm sure Pope's second-in-command could be convinced to lift the bounty in exchange for heavy firepower.

I'm not sure why Jax didn't want to immediately go to Oregon with Tara. His exit plan just worked beautifully. He cut all the loose ends and didn't lose any friends (well besides Opie). Now there's no reason not to leave the club in the hands of Bobby.
 
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inm8num2

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I'm thinking Jax had Juice lift Clay's prints from the house, like on the refrigerator door or similar, then wiped the gun and planted Clay's prints so they'd be clearly extracted.

Or, maybe not as I'm not sure how the prints could actually be planted on the gun.
 
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strafer

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Decent finale.

Still no season 3 though.

Can't freaking wait for Season 6.

Get on it.

Also, Bobby taking off his patch, da fuq :O

:)
 
BIGWORM

BIGWORM

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Thoughts on the season finale:

I thought Jax was seriously gonna give up Tig to Pope, and that Pope was gonna be in season 6. Question is, with Marks being Pope's right hand, why wasn't he at the meeting?

I honestly felt that Gemma wasn't going to go through with her 'conspiracy' threat until she overheard that conversation between Jax and Nero about getting out. She figured if Jax got out, Oregon would've been 100%

Of course Clay will somehow end up talking to Marks about not being the one killing Pope blah blah blah, and the bounty will then turn onto Jax/SAMCRO.

I think Tig will return to "normalcy" as he essentially just replaced his estranged daughter with the pit.

Bobby quitting as VP does not surprise me, and it won't surprise Jax when he sees the VP patch on the table. Chibbs will be the next VP, I think.

The charges against Tara will be overturned, and she will end up killing Gemma directly (or indirectly).
 
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Zaph

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I'm so glad the "just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in" Jax is finally dead. Going back to that well season after season was ruining SoA for me. It was never handled terribly (and most people don't seem to be bothered by it), but for some reason it always took me out of the show.

Anyway, great finale (no S3 roadside-Stahl level catharsis, but still great) barring one glaring issue - Gemma.

Gemma's character is the epitome of nepotism. To keep her around, and pull off that awful stand-over-Jax-with-one-arm-on-his-shoulder pose the writers love so much, required so many contrivances and plot-holes, they basically force the viewer into thinking Tara is either incredibly stupid or incredibly naive or both.

First, we're expected to believe that when Tara was threatened in her office she just 'forgot' her massive trump card over Gemma - she was in on JT's murder - even though she was willing to imply the threat earlier in the season? Second, is it not worth mentioning to Jax that Gemma is fully prepared to turn rat if they ever try to leave charming? Nah, instead just stay silent and get played.

Seriously, the lengths Kurt is going to to keep his wife on the show is getting comical at this point.
 
chris121580

chris121580

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It still sucks that Opie died this season but it had to be that way in order to justify everything involved in Jax's plan, especially with Pope.

I also can't believe Sutter was able to make me feel sorry for Clay. Unreal. Also, of course it was Gemma who ratted out Tara. After overhearing the conversation between Jax and Jimmy Smits, she figured out Jax's end game was to leave as well. It's also no coincidence she happened to show up while Tara was being taken away in a cop car. She's worse than Clay. Great finale and great season.
 
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BankaiZaraki

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Last nights episode didn't "feel" like a season finale to me. It was a rather bland episode tbh. I HATED the opening scene..that song killed it for me. I did like Jax's swerve on Pope but that was kinda stupid..just put more heat on the club probably.
 
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Omega

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Al-ibn Kermit said:
I'm surprised Juice's fingerprints weren't on the gun.

I don't think Tara will be convicted, but Jax will have to decide whether to kill Gemma so she can't testify against Tara or try to appease Gemma in some other way.

Of course, Clay is going to survive again somehow. Pretty much his only connections left are the Irish, I'm sure Pope's second-in-command could be convinced to lift the bounty in exchange for heavy firepower.

I'm not sure why Jax didn't want to immediately go to Oregon with Tara. His exit plan just worked beautifully. He cut all the loose ends and didn't lose any friends (well besides Opie). Now there's no reason not to leave the club in the hands of Bobby.
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it's this show's excellent writing and the ridiculous need to retcon everything.

They could have just ended the show here. but instead they have to drag it out two more seasons to kill Jax in the series finale
 
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Zaph

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Clint Beastwood said:
it's this show's excellent writing and the ridiculous need to retcon everything.

They could have just ended the show here. but instead they have to drag it out two more seasons to kill Jax in the series finale
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I'm glad Jax has finally stopped whining about 'getting out', but I completely agree with you regarding the retconning.

It's like they had this outline for Jax's reluctant character, but started watching Breaking Bad and thought "nah screw that, writing the rise of a ruthless gangster is far more interesting".
 
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Omega

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Zaph said:
I'm glad Jax has finally stopped whining about 'getting out', but I completely agree with you regarding the retconning.

It's like they had this outline for Jax's reluctant character, but started watching Breaking Bad and thought "nah screw that, writing the rise of a ruthless gangster is far more interesting".
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Part of me was hoping they would be different. I haven't watched a lot of TV shows but from the ones I have, I can't recall a scenario where the main character is just able to walk off into the sunset accomplishing everything he wanted to accomplish.

and then even if they wanted to be like every other show/movie and keep pushing it, at least they could have made Jax different.

He's Clay + Gemma just with a different appearance. Everyone has wanted them to die, so they thought the best thing to do was to keep them both around while taking their worst traits and putting it into Jax's character?

Logue better be the Gyp Rosetti of Season 6 or I'm done with this show.
 
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Cornballer

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Zaph

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Funny how cynical SoA makes you. Since the moment Nero was introduced, I've been expecting them to reveal his real sinister intentions/motives.
 
Nizz

Nizz

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Pretty good season finale last night. I had no idea what Jax had in mind as he was handing Tig over to Pope. I thought he was going to go through with it till I saw him reaching into that storage box on his bike. Jax always manages to come up with genius schemes to get out of trouble and this was no different. ;)

Pretty cold that Gemma apparently ratted out Tara and got her arrested. Pretty big chance Gemma's taking there if Jax finds out the truth. And as much of a snake as Clay has been the past couple of seasons I unbelievably felt bad for the dude as Jax's plan went into effect and he was getting arrested for Pope's murder. But not seeing him die in this episode has filled me with doubt that he'll die next season. Could they possibly stretch his life out over next season and possibly the seventh?
 
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