Moon_frogger
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I think high tier ip game just means 'high tier ip' which we can all agree uncharted definitely is. All he means is that the name uncharted carries brand recognition and would garner more attention then some no name card game.
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Sony can't even get their high-tier IP first party games out in all regions? YOSHIDA!
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IdreamofHIME
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Eurgh, just stop. You made a dumbass statement about a game not selling high, you've been told it's one of PSN's highest selling games and now you're gonna argue that will still be low?
Please, your trolling is so transparent, jeez.
You know you don't have to read my posts right, you can put me on ignore too!
It's as simple as that. Also, where's your contribution to the topic if you're getting so bent up on what I'm saying? I only see a few posts from playing white knight vs my opinion regarding the topic which is a legit possibility as to why they didn't get released in other regions.
heh...taking my own advice.
Oh true I would consider Uncharted itself to be a high tier IP.
3rdamention
Member
Lol just noticed that. I don't always check post history but this thread begged me too. Pretty funny thread now.
Zeyphersan
Banned
The massive difference in PS1 games between Japan and every other region is depressing.
Not really high profile, but still
This is the biggest thing for me. I want more games on the PS1 classics list (Suikoden II, I'm looking at you), and greater parity across all regions. Nintendo has this issue with their Virtual Console service as well, where a game was released in cartridge format on the original console, but is only available on the Japanese VC. Same with a lot of PS1 games.
It's basically free money once you get it running in an emulator, I don't know why so many companies are hesitant to put up old games for digital purchase.
Of course, one global marketplace would be the best thing in the world, but there's no way that could happen. But a man can dream
It's hilarious how someone can "tell me" without proof that FOB sold well, and that I should just accept it and move on, yet when I do the same with Journey I'm a dumbass and I'm trolling, try harder.
I'm not going to do your research for you, but was Journey primarily made of existing assets and finished mechanics?
Your first few posts in the thread were dumb, just get over it and move on.
Parapraxis
Member
It almost seems as though people are looking for things to complain about.
Games releasing in different regions at different times and/or possibly only in SOME regions has been basically around since the beginning of the "gaming industry". This is not really a failure on the part of Sony, nor specific only to their platforms. Hell, PS3 and PS4 and the games for those systems other than digital are region free, which is more than can be said for other platforms.
So yeah, it's a minor quibble, one which as it turns out is actually able to be circumvented on PS3 with the option to make accounts for any region.
I honestly don't think the "get yer sh*t together Sony" tone is warranted.
Games releasing in different regions at different times and/or possibly only in SOME regions has been basically around since the beginning of the "gaming industry". This is not really a failure on the part of Sony, nor specific only to their platforms. Hell, PS3 and PS4 and the games for those systems other than digital are region free, which is more than can be said for other platforms.
So yeah, it's a minor quibble, one which as it turns out is actually able to be circumvented on PS3 with the option to make accounts for any region.
I honestly don't think the "get yer sh*t together Sony" tone is warranted.
Sony saves a lot of money not localizing certain games that arent as popular in other regions...... no way would sony see a nice return if they decided to localize the many Ape Escape games in Japan to America, same reason it wouldnt make sense to localize the small Infamous game to Japan if the series isnt popular enough their
and besides that of course there is "radically" different content on each stores, IP holders and licencing varies wildly across the world and each company has its own distribution contract with Sony
and besides that of course there is "radically" different content on each stores, IP holders and licencing varies wildly across the world and each company has its own distribution contract with Sony
We got the Uncharted TCG in Asia and I believe at the same time as it launched in the US.
http://blog.asia.playstation.com/view-blog-post.jspa?blog=1174&blogPost=5962
http://blog.asia.playstation.com/view-blog-post.jspa?blog=1174&blogPost=5962
Sony Computer Entertainment Japan and Asia are one and the same as of earlier this year:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...tainment-merges-japanese-and-asian-operations
famousmortimer
Banned
Well here's some common sense for you... translating games is not cheap and if Sony doesn't think that the game will make back the money it takes to localize a game they won't localize a game. Just like every other videogame publisher on earth.
Festival of Blood uses the same engine as Infamous 2, they didn't have to create a ton of new assets.
When you decide to stop the ignorant posts, I'll attempt to 'calm down'.
thatgamecompany had to be bailed out by Sony Santa Monica to finish Journey.
It's nice we can do that on the PS3, but Vita is a pain in the butt. Again, FoB makes sense to complain about, it's the best Infamous game in my opinion, but I don't know many people that'd care about that Uncharted card game.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
So, you're saying that Tomodachi collection failed in Japan?
Wickerbasket
Member
Sometimes they don't think certain products are suited for outside markets, so they don't release them in other markets.
Considering how much Japanese culture is infused into that game, it's not surprising it hasn't been released outside Japan.
Edit: It still sucks though, I hate region locking. I live in Europe, so I know how Nintendo's region locking negatively affects people here; we're used to waiting for localisations.
You live in Pakistan :O.
From pakistan too but your insider info have me believed that u live some in uk
BlackIronCount
Member
i am more concerned how it's looks like their japanese IP are treated like unwanted stepchild.( sometime only get localized because of 3rd party, sometimes only get download only release in the west, and others never even get chance to be localized, not to mention how it looks like thye didn't even want to invest on the development of the game at the first place etc)
ginger ninja
Banned
sorry for thread derailment but holy shit thuway is in pakistan..wtf, suddenly i feel honoured of my origins
Boom!
Even if a legit thread his post history poisons the thread as intent is now suspect.
Parapraxis
Member
I've only heard good things about this stand-alone add-on actually, and to get in the festive spirit this halloween I plan on grabbing this, As far as DLC is concerned I think the general consensus is that Festival of Blood is actually worth the money, and not so much a spoof or cash grab, but unique and worthwhile content if you enjoyed the games.
I do agree that OP is making a thread about a non-issue though, and singling out Sony out of the "big three", when in many regards they are more open regarding region-locks, only comes off as OP looking for something to bitch about Sony over.
This, definitely. I bought it a couple months ago during the PS Allstars sale for like $4, wish I bought it sooner. It's very InFAMOUS, but also unique. Totally worth the $10 or $15 it probably was originally. Not a cash grab at all.
And I would argue it could be canon, as it's mostly Zeke telling a story trying to get laid
FoB came out a few months after I2. Seems to use the same engine, set in the same city, etc. It's mostly a few new powers, enemies, and missions. I'm not trying to minimize what went into the game, but Journey was probably built from the ground up, and by a less experienced studio. Obviously we don't know, but you can't so easily assume FoB cost more to develop and didn't make a profit.
What multiple instances of evidence do you have to support such a claim?
Localization came to mind for me too. Games like SuperStarDust don't have speaking roles, and only text...perhaps that's a reason games like it are easier to put elsewhere?
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I was at first a bit like minded with the OP but after more consideration I think its a good thing that different versions of the game go through different cert processes. It has a higher chance of ensuring the released game in each region is in fact a working product. After all, from what I understand the cert processes are mainly to ensure a working and complete product. The version released in NA may not be exactly same as a version released in EU or for that matter a country with stricter laws such as Australia. So having separate cert processes ensures content owners/distributors do not cut corners for releases they don't think will sell well anyway.
Whether each "top selling" game should be released in every region is a question of demand really and whether Sony/content owners understand and are determined to meet that demand. I don't think the separate cert processes has much to do with that.
Whether each "top selling" game should be released in every region is a question of demand really and whether Sony/content owners understand and are determined to meet that demand. I don't think the separate cert processes has much to do with that.
Amish_Gramish
Member
In response to Jarek23:
It didn't take a year for Journey to break even. Sony just pays royalties after each quarter. As of March (near the end of one quarter), we were set to receive royalties.
In response to Dragon:
Yeah... Um...
I'd like to know where you got your information about thatgamecompany being bailed out by Sony Santa Monica, because this never happened.
(I'm the Community Manager for thatgamecompany.)
never heard about the supposed bailout.
But I remember articles about Journey finally being profitable at what seemed to be late in the game. Great game by the way. Loved sharing it with people who don't quite see themselves as gamers, or have a warped sense of what gaming has to offer.
I don't have a PS3 to hand to check this but in addition to the Uncharted card game, it seems inFAMOUS Festival of Blood was also released in Asia:
http://asia.playstation.com/hk/en/regional/gamedetails?id=12430
Furthermore, it was localized with Korean and Chinese subtitles.
All of the games mentioned in the OP have been released in all three major regions of the world, on or very close to the original release dates.
http://asia.playstation.com/hk/en/regional/gamedetails?id=12430
Furthermore, it was localized with Korean and Chinese subtitles.
All of the games mentioned in the OP have been released in all three major regions of the world, on or very close to the original release dates.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
I am aware of that but jarek23 seems to be under the impression that if a game isn't released in other regions, it is due to failure in sales in the regions where the game was already released in.
I wonder why English and Spanish? I wonder if it's normal for US games to have a Spanish option and we've just get what they already have as it's never going to be a major seller over here?
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Nintendo didn't release the any Tingle game bar the first outside of Japan (Zelda spin-offs!). They also didn't release F-Zero X Expansion pack, nor F-Zero Climax outside of Japan. Mario's Picross 2? Japan exclusive. Kirby's Dreamland 3? Not in Europe. Super Mario RPG? Not in Europe either. Wario Land Virtual Boy (together with the system itself) didn't come to Europe, even Super Mario Bros. 2 wasn't released outside of Japan. Some of these examples got somewhat fixed many years later via Virtual Console. Some, but not all. It didn't help players who wanted to play the games back then. Sony's two way more obsucre spin offs not being released in Japan doesn't seem so bad in comparison.
tearsofash
Member
I still want dark mist.
Haha, what is this?
so in the end, op didn't even bother to do his research properly.
It's probably worth reading this post on the SCEE Blog from a couple of years ago Ross McGrath of the Store team about PS1 games. It does only cover PSOne games but it gives an idea of the sort lengths SCEE have to go to get stuff done across a complex region like Europe with all the different countries, languages, laws, copyrights, etc.The massive difference in PS1 games between Japan and every other region is depressing.
Not really high profile, but still
Ross McGrath said:
Ross McGrath said:
It should be easier but it seems that it can take a lot of time and work which can make it expensive and because there is a limited market for PSOne games sometimes the expense means it's just not worth the effort involved. I have loads of PSOne games from the Japanese and US Store which I love but obviously it limits Vita usage, I'm really hoping that with the new account system on the PS4 that it will somehow allow multiple accounts on the Vita too.Ross McGrath said:
No and still no word why.
The separate PSN stores without any option to access other stores is one of my biggest complain to Sony. So much missing in the EU stores :/
If it's too much work to bring all games to every country maybe just make the stores open, that you can access foreign stores as well (maybe add an import tax on top if necessary). Or a gifting option so I could buy games with a secondary account and gift it to my main account.
Where is my Suikoden 2 for NA?!
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The bugs and glitches are probably preventing the game from ever being released.
not_so_special
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he is invested XD
I don't know, but this is his Facebook pic:
Oh shit, son!
bond in the cia? dont insult him
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