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Quantum253
Gold Member
Wasn't that the original launch PS3? I thought it played games from all systems
Dr.Morris79
Member
Nice to hear Sony catching up with me, emulating their games, for years now.
Maybe.
Maybe.
LordBritish
Member
Fine and all but going back and trying these old ass games, its always a let down graphically. Maybe its just me
TheDarkPhantom
Gold Member
Give me that sweet PS3 library with trophy support (for the games that were released before it became standard) 
Edit: Resistance, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Orange Box, Folklore to name a few.
Edit: Resistance, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Orange Box, Folklore to name a few.
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Radical_3d
Member
I want to be excited but seeing that the emulators are only used for selling you old crap instead of letting you use your old library I’ll be cautiously optimistic.
damiank
Member
You can forget about psx and ps2 cd games cause ps5 can't read them.
Shifty1897
Member
As someone who does not believe the PS5 can emulate PS3 games at an acceptable level... What are the odds this is for something else? Nothing about PS3 in the patent.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
I'd love an Analogue PS to do this.
AyraSutoraifu
Member
Fine by me... rather play with a dualsense
Badlucktroll
Gold Member
I bet Mark Cerny figured out a different optimised method and they didn’t even acknowledge rpcs3 at allRumours can be true then?
I guess when you have open source effort of RPCS3, these things can get you up to speed faster.
MadchesterManc
Member
Don't do this to yourself GAF
Goalus
Member
He just discovered the concept of backwards compatibility. Better late than never.
Badlucktroll
Gold Member
I bet Konami won’t let them emulate MGS 4, and will sell a shitty unoptimised port (not even part of any collection, just by its self) for $69.99
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Here we have someone who had never heard of a PS2 due to being too young.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Not sure if comedy, however why would you do that, if you have ton of code already written and available? I don't doubt that some inside knowledge makes it better, but still there is a crowd sourced effort going on for years and there is not a reason to not look into it.
wvnative
Member
I don't know a single game where you must use them to complete the game. Non-issue
mitch1971
Gold Member
Surely not without servers for the MP trophies?
mitch1971
Gold Member
On the ps3, one of the resident evil games (if I remember) had a motorway section where the pressure buttons had to be used, otherwise you couldn't finish the level as the enemy got too far ahead and you failed the checkpoint. I had to switch to my ps3 controller to finish it, then back to my ps5 controller for the rest of the game.
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Rayderism
Member
My guesses about this PS3 BC stuff.....I don't know squat, just guessing.
Possibly a PS5 Pro feature.
Digital games only. Buy them again. No disk BC. Letting you pop in your old disk wouldn't be profitable for Sony.
Probably won't really have any enhancements. Maybe a bit of extra AA, possibly more consistent framerates and better load times, and that's it.
I remember seeing a vid (maybe DF) that talked about how early in the PS3's life, many games didn't use the extra features of the Cell CPU (SPU's), which is why many early PS3 games didn't look or run as good as the XBOX version, so possibly these "select" games they are talking about would be ones that didn't use the SPU's. Technically should be easier to emulate.
The Motorstorm series (the main reason I still have a PS3 hooked up) probably won't be among these "select" games. Because of course not.
Overall, the PS3 BC will be just as basic (and limited in library) as the digital PS1 and PS2 so-called BC is currently.
Possibly a PS5 Pro feature.
Digital games only. Buy them again. No disk BC. Letting you pop in your old disk wouldn't be profitable for Sony.
Probably won't really have any enhancements. Maybe a bit of extra AA, possibly more consistent framerates and better load times, and that's it.
I remember seeing a vid (maybe DF) that talked about how early in the PS3's life, many games didn't use the extra features of the Cell CPU (SPU's), which is why many early PS3 games didn't look or run as good as the XBOX version, so possibly these "select" games they are talking about would be ones that didn't use the SPU's. Technically should be easier to emulate.
The Motorstorm series (the main reason I still have a PS3 hooked up) probably won't be among these "select" games. Because of course not.
Overall, the PS3 BC will be just as basic (and limited in library) as the digital PS1 and PS2 so-called BC is currently.
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wvnative
Member
Interesting, I don't play RE so I wouldn't know about that. That's gotta be one of VERY few examples.
Only ones I know of on any console were on PS2, Gran Turismo for throttle and MGS for interrogation. In GT you can just use full throttle and break accordingly or use the right stick as an alternative. While not ideal, interrogation in MGS isn't required to complete the game.
mitch1971
Gold Member
Yeah, they are probably few and far between, but they are lurking in there somewhere.
mitch1971
Gold Member
A percentage discount would be nice on the purchase if original disc is owned (and need to be used to play). But, who am I kidding, it will never happen.
Badlucktroll
Gold Member
Sony probably freaked out that the ps3 goldmine is money left on the table and they want to re sell us the titles so they had mark cerny figure it out. no more “but teh cell”. i bet he did it
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Strider7
Member
Shit. Forgot about those. How I hate MP trophies.
Madserb2023
Member
I can't see Sony locking this feature behind the PS5 Pro, but I can see PS3 games running at higher resolutions and perhaps something similar to boost mode on the PS5 Pro.
yurinka
Member
BC in PS2 (PS1), PS3 (PS1, PS2), Vita (PSP) and PS5 (PS4) was great.
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
The vast majority of PS3 games run @30fps
Not really, they TRY to run at 30.
Flintty
Member
As someone who recently finally bought into the PS ecosystem, this would be awesome for me, as long as you can just pop the disc in. There are lots of games that I missed!
It's funny though (and I hate to be that guy) that when Xbox announced BC, the general reaction on Gaf was "nobody wants to play old games"!
It's funny though (and I hate to be that guy) that when Xbox announced BC, the general reaction on Gaf was "nobody wants to play old games"!
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Zero percent chance.
SimTourist
Member
Technical implementation is one thing, the legal side of it is much more complicated. Look at how many hoops MS had to jump through to negotiate all the licensing for every single BC game for ultimately minimal financial gain.
mitch1971
Gold Member
Badlucktroll
Gold Member
I bet they will do some early first party games like Resistance 1 and Infamous and some shit like dead nation and super rub a dub to start with
cireza
Member
You do realize that all the BC listed here were hardware implementations, with minimal or no emulation at all.
Unless a CELL has been hidden inside each PS5, I don't exactly see this happening in the same way for PS3 games on PS5...
yurinka
Member
Yes.
The patent refers to hardware implementation of limiting the speed of components like CPU to match a previous console without breaking. Something helpful to let's say run PS4 or PS5 games on PS5 Pro. Or PS4 and PS5 games on PS6. Something like to configure let's say potentially a PS5 Pro or PS6 in "base PS5 mode" or "PS4 mode" and related testing versions of such modes for developers.
The problem with PS3 emulation is the opposite: PS3 had some hardware stuff that in certain things was faster than PS4 or PS5 hardware, so can't be properly emulated.
The patent doesn't seem to be related to PS3 emulation at all.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
why dont you think that the PS5 can emulate PS3 games?