Juice said:
I assure you, I'm not hating on the PSP's lineup for the sake of hating it.
Sure. That really comes out in your balanced look at the titles, and also your assumption that the fact that you personally aren't anticipating a title - due in large part to your wilful ignorance - means that it's objectively bad.
Juice said:
God, people like you who ignore games and resort to pointless anti-trolling trolling are so fucking annoying. So few of the posts that complain about something I say ever have anything to do with the actual point or issues at hand that I'm convinced none of you even see the point of what I say nor care about the quality and fun of actual games as you do their (platform's) success.
Fair enough. I thought you'd be bright enough to see through the issues yourself, but since you want to go through it a line at a time:
Juice said:
1.) Bounty Hounds: Never heard of it, but it reminds me of Mace Griffin. PASS. Now, if Sony could've mustered a single link to a page with more information, perhaps I could be so enriched.
The first result on Google links to IGN's page on the game, complete with preview and screenshots. It looks nothing like Mace Griffin. Clearly you're not qualified to judge the game since you know nothing about it.
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2.) Burnout Legends: Nerfed port of an overrated franchise. Can't wait to see ghosting make sparks hang out over 30% of the screen while playing. No thanks.
Which is fine for you personally. It's unfortunate for you that "Only make games that Juice likes" isn't part of any console manufacturer's official policy. You're in the minority on this title, anyway, as I'm sure you know. The Burnout series has met with great critical acclaim and commercial success, and whether you like it or not it
is a big game on the horizon.
Juice said:
3.) Final Fantasy: Advent Children: Movies don't count, especially when they can be rented in a superior format for a few dollars. Counter--;
Correct.
Juice said:
3.) Frantix: Never heard of it, and even though it comes from Sony, there's no link to more information. What is a poor PSP-interested consumer to assume? Since it's from Sony and starts with an F, and is also not an actual word, I'll assume it's the sequel to Fantavision. Now that was a game! Pass.
Chalk another one up to wilful ignorance. "If I choose to ignore it, it must be a bad game! Haha! I am funny and PSP is doomed!" Geez, and you wonder why people think you're deliberately setting out with the intention of disliking the lineup. Again, Google reveals the truth (a top-down action-puzzler that doesn't actually look that interesting to me, but Gamespot seemed to like it).
Juice said:
4.) Ghost in the Shell: Fuck anime and anime-based games. Pass.
No, fuck judgemental retards who are too insecure to play a game if the characters have big eyes.
Juice said:
5.) GTA: LCS: I refuse to assume that a full-fledged GTA game will be anything more than a source of frustration with the limited controls of the PSP. The analog nub is not a valid replacement for neither one (less two!) dual shock sticks, and both are needed for even basic operation in recent GTA games. If it controls well, sure, but there's nothing out that's convinced me yet it will. Pass.
No, you're certainly not setting out to assume the worst in all cases just to justify your claim that there are no good games on the horizon for PSP. Weak-ass argument.
Juice said:
6.) Gripshift: Looks like Micro Machines racers. Thanks, but I've got plenty of racing games already in Wipeout and Ridge Racer. And I'm sure they're far more interesting.
I kind of agree with you, though if this
is like Micro Machines then it's a totally different kind of game and far more enjoyable for multiplayer gaming.
Juice said:
7.) Madden 2006: I liked this game more when it was called NFL Quarterback Club '97 for the N64, and had better graphics
Again you have no point. This game is nothing like NFL QB Club - it's like a modern version of Madden. Looks pretty good in motion, and has improved graphically from its E3 showing. From the IGN hands-on preview:
"I got a chance to play the game again and it feels great. You really do feel like you're playing real Madden on the console. The control tuning that has made the franchise so legendary has made a perfect translation to the PSP. Some compromises have been made in terms of the mapping of the buttons. After all, there's only one analog nub, as oppose to the dual analog sticks you get with a PS2 controller. Nevertheless, the game executes your decisions with smooth precisions. Once the load times tighten-up, the entire experience will move like butter."
Your comparison is null and void. Again. Though top marks for facile witticism.
Juice said:
8.) Medieval Ressurection: The Goth theme doesn't do it for me (as I just mentioned in the Death Jr. thread), and I found the original game to be a pretty dry platformer that kept my interest for all of an hour. Pass.
Another case of your personal problems with being unable to play games if you dislike the subject material. For those of us who value that thing called 'gameplay' this isn't a problem. The original was an underrated PSX platformer with some neat touches.
Juice said:
9.) Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06: Was fun the first two years. And only because of the analog stick control that emulated the old track balls at arcades. I can't imagine nubbing it and having fun. Pass.
It's as valid as any other annually updated sports title. I'm not a great fan of golf games myself (particularly the realistic ones) but my brother, who is, found the first Tiger Woods on PSP to be great.
Juice said:
10.) World Series Poker: I can play Party Poker online without even installing a program and make easy money off dumbasses in offices simultaneously. Why would I want to pay for it? I'd rather try to get it to work through the system's browser.
I don't see the point in playing poker on a PSP either, but this will do quite nicely for those who do, and who don't want to play for real money (not that I see the point in playing poker without real money involved, but some people shouldn't be allowed to gamble...). It all comes down to how good the AI is. With the popularity of poker recently this one will be a comparative success regardless of how much either of us dislike it, especially given how cheap it will be to develop.
Juice said:
11.) Crash Team Racing: I don't buy spinoffs of games I didn't like. Besides, way too many better racers already. Pass.
Your disregard for gameplay becomes very clear if you can't tell the difference between Ridge Racer and Crash Team Racing. Kart racing games are a very distinct subgenre, and the original CTR was one of the better ones on Sony systems, though obviously it's no Mario Kart.
Juice said:
12.) Frogger Helmet Chaos: I don't need an excuse to not be interested in this game. Pass.
Again, judgemental and based on ignorance of the game.
I can't help being judgemental along with you and protecting my ignorance, though.
Juice said:
13.) Gretzky NHL 2006: NH-what? I'll be sure to pick this one up as I follow the league's demise on the Outdoor Life Network.... or not.
Again, lots of people seem to like it. A better argument would be the comparative suckiness of the original PSP Gretzky, which was so bad they had to give it away free to get Canadians to buy it.
Juice said:
14.) Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects: Don't know a ton about this one, but in general Marvel/X-Men games have been sorely lacking. I've always wanted a good one, but I've not seen anything from this one that convinces me it'll be any different. Coming from EA doesn't help, either. So far, not interested.
Another case of claiming it must be bad because you know nothing about it.
Juice said:
15.) NBA Live 06: I could get a full version for a console at the same price, and it'd have online play too. No thanks.
How well does that online play work on your portable XBox? Just wondering.
Juice said:
16.) PoPoLoCrois: Never heard of it, no information available. Boo.
No information available if you bury your head in the sand and shout "PSP games all suck if I can't see them!" Google begs to differ on your original point, though.
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17.) SSX on Tour: The SSX series is more tired than my fingers after typing this post as a demonstration that these games are genuinely not interesting to me, and that it isn't a function of my intelligence. That's pretty fucking tired. Pass.
Didn't like the series either, but again a lot of people did, and it's a genre that isn't represented heavily on portable systems.
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18.) The Con: Never heard of it, no additional information. Reminds me of the Getaway, which was absolute garbage. Pass.
Willful ignorance +1. "Reminds me of the Getaway"? I must have missed the 3D fighter section in The Getaway. Either that or you're setting new levels for pride in your lack of knowledge. All signs point at the latter.
Juice said:
19.) The Legend of Heroes: Never heard of it, though I'm sure it's in a thirty way tie for most bland title in history. I'll unleash my generic rage elsewhere.
More ignorance proudly announced. It's an RPG that got a lot of people excited over how pretty it looks in the thread about it here on GAF. No generic rage. Your hit rate on wild guesses about what games are like isn't too good today, is it?
Juice said:
20.) Virtua Tennis: Great game, great series, greater on a console, and costs far less.
Yeah, we're just loaded down with handheld tennis games. Like...
Point--.
Juice said:
21.) X-Men Legends II: As I said above, I didn't like the original for a console, so I doubt a nerfed port would suddenly stand out as genius to me.
Fair enough, and there are better games in the same style on the PSP already.
Juice said:
22.) Ys: I thought this series was dead! Too bad. Pass
You thought wrong, but wrong's pretty much par for the course with your rundown of PSP games. And the thing is, it's not in terms of your opinion of the games, which you're entitled to, but in the way you're dismissing games based on your assumptions about them that place them in entirely the wrong genre. It's like saying that DS is doomed because all it has on it are first person shooters like Mario Kart. Sure, you're entitled to your opinion, but when it's so ill-informed you'll find a lot of people dismiss it.
Either way, whether you like the games or not doesn't have any impact at all on whether Sony has a working strategy. Their strategy is not to make
you happy: it's to produce games that will sell. So no matter how much you want to bitch about them personally, titles like Burnout and GTA
are huge when it comes to the future lineup. So you can't even pull out the old "but I
clearly meant the lineup sucks in my opinion only" excuse.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't care whether you personally like games for my "system of choice" (the system on my desk at the moment is a Nintendo DS with Fire Emblem in it, which I'll be playing until my copy of Advance Wars DS turns up, but feel free to carry on making incorrect assumptions since you're so good at it). It's your inability to see the disconnect between your personal minority views on certain games and what makes for a good mass market strategy that annoys me, that's all.
