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Sony FY22Q4 Earnings Report - 6.3m PS5 sold, 61% YoY growth (~340 HW growth)
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BaneIsPain
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Somebody is a spoilsport.
Heisenberg007
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It was always this high. Because of chip shortage and other supply constraints (and COVID), Sony was not able to produce and sell as many PS5s.
Now they have ironed out the issues and are able to produce a lot more PS5s. That's why we are seeing such high sales numbers. It'll continue to be the case for the foreseeable future.
vivftp
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Because they're able to finally produce them on this scale. The demand's always been there, the supply hasn't.
Alex Scott
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My bad. I got confused.
DenchDeckard
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I'm confused, are they making losses on hardware?
Insane numbers! That's absolutely bonkers.
Insane numbers! That's absolutely bonkers.
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Alex Scott
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Sony is likely less than 2 million behind PS4 now in terms of shipment (I think).
Finally the PS5 will be able to surpass PS4 wIth the help of Final Fantasy and Nicheman 2 (spiderman)
Finally the PS5 will be able to surpass PS4 wIth the help of Final Fantasy and Nicheman 2 (spiderman)
Heisenberg007
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Kokoloko85
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Just a genuine question really. PS4 was doing awesome too
Alex Scott
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Heisenberg007
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DenchDeckard
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That says decrease in losses from hardware.....
So they have been making losses since launch but the losses have decreased. That flies against what we have been discussing on here.
They are still making losses on hardware, it's just decreased. New hardware revision etc.
Hopefully get some more info on the call.
That's next month but hoping we get ps5 unit forecast.Come on, Jimbo. Tell us about the money you have set aside for gaming acquisitions
25m forecast
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Alex Scott
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Is he speaking today or in May?Come on, Jimbo. Tell us about the money you have set aside for gaming acquisitions
Dr.brain64
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HOLY!
Heisenberg007
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Unlikely. HW also includes PS VR 2 this quarter.
Zok310
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Seems Sony was wise not going after a big pub, not only will regulators shoot it down but it seems it would cripple the division. Look at the impact of just bungie being on their books have had on sie.
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DenchDeckard
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That's not it...look at the way its written. But I get you do not want to accept it.
- OI down 54% due to increased HW sales and reduced first party sales
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kyliethicc
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It does depend on what they are referring to in the presentation slides. In the supplementary info, psvr2 is under Other.
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Coulomb_Barrier
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Traditional console hardware strategy operating at peak levels. Akin to Wii but that dropped like a stone after the fad wore off.
ByWatterson
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The work parties at Sony this week must be straight-up debaucherous.
SeraphJan
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How many do you predict?
Sorry that's my assumption and mainIy assuming PSVR2, will edit to make that clearer
DJ12
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wasn't the DE sold at a loss and the disk a profit.
PS5s now more readily available so guess there's less demand for the DE. I'm sure there would've been cost reductions somewhere also, plus tthe price increase.
Heisenberg007
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Duchess
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I'm confused.
People saying 25m goal, but Gamespot reported Sony hit 32m back in February?
www.gamespot.com
People saying 25m goal, but Gamespot reported Sony hit 32m back in February?
PS5 Sales Climb To 32M, Which Is Millions Behind Where PS4 Was Over Same Period Of Time
Sony sold 7.1 million PS5 consoles in the past three months.
www.gamespot.com
The discless model is $100 cheaper when a disc drive probably cost them $20 & the discless model is actually selling now plus it was discounts on the God Of War bundle & PSVR2 might be sold at a lost in the beginning.
Bo_Hazem
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The 25m goal is for the next fiscal year.
You mean for next FY? That was based on rumours only, nothing official.
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GHG
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You joke but not listening to outside influences and doing what is right for business is required for any successful business in this day and age.
It's important to learn how to filter out the noise, and with the Internet social media etc there's a lot of noise out there these days. Everyone has an opinion, not all of those are valid, correct or qualified. Stay the course and do what you know is right.
25 million this FY they just did 19 million last FY & going even bigger from now until next
March
Heisenberg007
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Except that is not how it's written.
Costs increased because of increased cost, increased cost of game development, decreased third-party game sales, and acquisitions costs.
Operating profit did not decrease because of losses from hardware.
Besides, only the PS5 Standard Edition at $499 was a profitable model. Sony never said anything about the Digital Edition, which likely was still being sold at a loss. Even if you read it as you have been, you can assume that the costs of PS5 DE have decreased.
yurinka
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They had a hardware release this quarter/fiscal year (PSVR2), meaning there are related R&D and marketing costs. In addition to this there also have been acquisitions & investments costs.
They also increased their investment on new games, and sales of 3rd party decreased.
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Physiognomonics
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If they obfuscate the numbers it can only mean one thing.
yurinka
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I think PSVR2 is being sold at a loss and on top of that there are the R&D and marketing costs of its launch, this is the difference.
Got bored, let us know if anything interesting comes up.
drganon
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I'm beginning to think he caught a guy screwing his girlfriend while wearing a PlayStation shirt and he's been bitter ever since.
Varteras
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That's where I left my shirt! Been looking for that thing. Think he'd send it to me?
DenchDeckard
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Except that is not how it's written.
Costs increased because of increased cost, increased cost of game development, decreased third-party game sales, and acquisitions costs.
Operating profit did not decrease because of losses from hardware.
Besides, only the PS5 Standard Edition at $499 was a profitable model. Sony never said anything about the Digital Edition, which likely was still being sold at a loss. Even if you read it as you have been, you can assume that the costs of PS5 DE have decreased.
It says reduction in losses...you can't make a profit in something and reduce losses.
It's not psvr 2 as that thing is blatantly being sold as a profit and that showed in the other section. Hardware is ps5.
I don't know how more clear it can be....
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