Triggerhappytel
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I understand your scepticism, but I think JStevenson (Insomniac guy who's a regular on here) said it was taken from actual gameplay.
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I understand your scepticism, but I think JStevenson (Insomniac guy who's a regular on here) said it was taken from actual gameplay.
Donniewahlberg
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Cool, cheers for the help there, I was struggling to find the link, but I was sure I remembered seeing that date.
I would love if that is the whole playstation summer output, the summer of classics. Parappa can lead things in early, but then during summer give us Wipeout, Patapon, Locoroco, then top it all off with Crash after the summer as a genuine big release.
I appreciate people want new stuff, but there's such a legacy with this stuff, it's worth having a mini release schedule each year based around these kind of projects.
Blackleg-sanji1
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That's the best thing about it tho, the new stuff rebuttal doesn't really work. All of these remasters are from outside sources it's great. More work for other dev teams, first part devs do their own thing, more games. I have no complaints, now give me ape escape sony
The fact wipeout AND parappa fans got something before the GOAT disturbs me
Gah, did I poorly word another post? The in engine gameplay elaboration of my post was me trying to explain the semantics of the terms. It had nothing to do with Spider-Man!
Triggerhappytel
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Gah, did I poorly word another post? The in engine gameplay elaboration of my post was me trying to explain the semantics of the terms. It had nothing to do with Spider-Man!
Sorry, that was my fault. This topic's moving too fast and I'm not keeping up properly!
What's outrageous about that? That's how long it takes to make games. Maybe longer if you're making a new IP, or using a new engine, or are a smaller studio trying to make a big game.
In b4 someone comes in and asks if Bloodborne 2 was teased!
fatherKratos
Neo Member
& i am saying may be its traditional for them to end the development cycle in March
Cant be happier if it releases early, i'll even go ahead and buy a red limited edition ps4 pro, if there is one with its release...You know, I've never thought about releasing those remasters that way, it's a good idea.
They'll get ton of exposure during the inevitable summer lull.
Crash, Parappa and Wipeout were my jam from the early PS days.
In a coffin next to TO:1886.
More seriously, aren't Supermassive done with Sony and are now multiplatform?
I don't see a sequel coming out in the near future.
LiquidSolid
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Seeing as they laid off a number of people straight after they finished First Light and don't have two pre-production teams (like Naughty Dog, Guerrilla, SSM or Japan Studio), I'm not sure about that. I'm guessing they only started on pre-production for their next project once Second Son shipped, while most of the studio worked on First Light.
It's a very rough guess, I just figure that they may be working on an ambitious new IP and things will take more time than usual because they're not the biggest studio. Plus, 2018 seemed well accounted for in my guesses, so it just made sense. Who knows though, we'll see what happens once they actually announce and start talking about it.
Parappa, LocoRoco and Patapon are being done internally, aren't they? By the PS2 on PS4 team.
Triggerhappytel
Member
It's on the way. It must be; the first was a surprise hit.
I need to find that quote from Supermassive to see exactly what they said. I think they said they wanted to move to multiplatform development, but I don't think they excluded working with Sony again.
OléGunner;226636846 said:
They just did the Until Dawn VR game, so I don't think they are done with Sony. Probably planning their next game, who knows if it's multiplat or Until Dawn 2? And it's probably way too early to leak/hint, I know Until Dawn was a sleeper hit though so could see them partnering with Sony again.
Theslammer
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OléGunner;226636846 said:
They did say they were "keen" on going multiplatform after 8 years of what they said was a great relationship with Sony. And since Sony owns Until Dawn, they'd have to work with Sony again to do that.
So we may get Until Dawn 2, but it's possible, as you said, not for a while.
"Done" was a strong word.
Maybe just taking a break to go multiplat.
Until Dawn was an amazing game, I also would love a sequel.
Until Dawn 2 on an updated Decima engine perhaps.
Lawd, such things need to exist!
Donniewahlberg
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OléGunner;226636846 said:
I think it would be a good fit for playstation fans during the summer months, you could dovetail it with e3 available now announcements, and that continues to keep them at the other end of the year from psx, which is the best place to announce these projects, but of course it'll all come down to dev timetables
Well I think that still goes with his sentiment that we don't have the usual argument of remasters or remakes pulling from brand new product resources or dev time, despite a lot of these games being worked on by full time remake/port houses these days anyway.
StrongBlackVine
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It's outrageous.
McMoneyman
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God I want a new Until Dawn 2. Shame the original studio seems to wanna make multiplatform games now, which is good for Xbox and PC gamers... but I want a sequel
Donniewahlberg
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Oh for sure, can't wait. I know some folks are up and down on Level 5 but man, I love the stuff they put out hah and Ni No Kuni is no different. If this has some great kingdom building stuff too.
God I want a new Until Dawn 2. Shame the original studio seems to wanna make multiplatform games now, which is good for Xbox and PC gamers... but I want a sequel
I would be fine with another studio doing it. Just use the Decima engine.
McMoneyman
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Yeah hopefully a sequel could star some familiar faces just like the first game.
Shin-Ra
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Not thinking too far ahead to DLC I'd call efficient and focused.
Can't imagine ND would put out the trailer to the Last of Us Part II three years before the game comes out. They usually begin the hype train a year and a half before release (U4 being the exception due to the high-profile departures from the studio). I still believe it's releasing in 2018.... along side God of War and MAYBE Death Stranding. Maybe. lol
they will target fall 2018 internally but will release spring 2019 imo.
ideally they should be able to release it holiday 2018 considering they probably started planning for the sequel after the first one ended and then had to move to uncharted 4 and restart that.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Man I really do want another infamous but 4 in a row will probably turn off some people I suppose
Nightengale
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SolidSnakex
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Ahh, I wonder how Yoshida got his hands on it? I just saw her comment on that image with him and she seemed surprised to see Yoshida with it.
I think there's a lot that they need to consider for a next inFamous. They've nailed the traversal and general combat mechanics. But they need to work on the side content as well as the good/evil aspect. The side content has always felt a bit slim and by the numbers. And the good/evil aspect is way too obvious.
From makes open world games though. 5 years is not a stretch for a AAA open world game.
fatherKratos
Neo Member
Huge fan of Sucker Punch since PS2 era. Have faith in them that whatever they are going to do next...it will surely be a good game.
Yeah. If all goes well we're looking at ND games for three consecutive years (The Lost Legacy in 2017 and TLOU2 for 2018). We're definitely a spoiled bunch aha thank you ND!
Ignore the 2017 typo.
Ay... those 3-4 months they save from a restructure put em right around June / July
Nightengale
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You mean 6 years.
2013: TLoU
2014: Left Behind + TLoU: Remastered
2015; Uncharted Collection
2016: Uncharted 4
2017: Uncharted: TLL & Crash Trilogy (not really but kinda is)
2018: TLoU Part II ( pls )
If Part II misses 2018 they could always release Jak Trilogy Remastered or CTR Remastered I guess.
bitbydeath
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Game I think sold well but the whole transition between PS3-PS4 probably took a toll.
OrbitalBeard
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If you count Festival of Blood and First Light, Sucker Punch's last five projects have been inFAMOUS titles. I really hope they're working on something new.
LiquidSolid
Member
Ignore the 2017 typo.
You forgot to take into account the 6 month Druckmann delay so he can get the ending right.
Seriously though, I think you guys are being way too optimistic. TLOU2 doesn't even have a Game Director yet and ND still have to finish The Lost Legacy. I'll stick with my Mid 2019 prediction.
Nightengale
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You forgot to take into account the 6 month Druckmann delay so he can get the ending right.
Seriously though, I think you guys are being way too optimistic. TLOU2 doesn't even have a Game Director yet and ND still have to finish The Lost Legacy. I'll stick with my Mid 2019 prediction.
Any mid-2019 game was secretly planned internally for 2018 before realising more time is needed. 😛
Jokes aside... I think TLOU Part II... will not have a co-director but it'll be a solo-project by Neil.
Triggerhappytel
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You forgot to take into account the 6 month Druckmann delay so he can get the ending right.
Seriously though, I think you guys are being way too optimistic. TLOU2 doesn't even have a Game Director yet and ND still have to finish The Lost Legacy. I'll stick with my Mid 2019 prediction.
Yep, plus Shawn Laydon specifically said it was "the game is in early development; super early". Getting this done within two years seems incredibly optimistic; particular when they've just launched Uncharted 4 and are still working on The Lost Legacy. I think mid-late 2019 is on point. Like TLoU it will probably launch on PS4 and then later a complete edition will come to PS5.
fatherKratos
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Agree Shawn said that but hasn't Nolan North said that they are working on TLOU2...quite a while back....
TLOU2 releasing in 2019 would mean a 5 year development cycle and I highly doubt that. It's not a new IP, nor is it open world as far as we know. Remember, the PSX 2016 teaser was shot a year and a half ago and unless I misheard, Ashley Johnson said Neil already had ideas for Part 2 back when he first told her about Left Behind.
I feel like Shawn Layden saying it's early in development was because Sony initially planned to show it next E3, but ND wanted it at PSX. Again, source is the PSX panel.
I feel like Shawn Layden saying it's early in development was because Sony initially planned to show it next E3, but ND wanted it at PSX. Again, source is the PSX panel.
They said during the same panel that literally the only thing that was worked on for TLoU2 at that time was the teaser. It's likely that they did some pre-production in 2015, but I don't think development started in proper until after Uncharted 4 shipped. And even then, the bulk of employees might be working on the UC4 DLC.
Triggerhappytel
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It's not a straight 5 year dev cycle though, as the majority of staff (and the key creative leads) were working on Uncharted 4 from mid 2014 to mid 2016.
I'm gonna have to watch the PSX panel again and see exactly what they said.
True, but pre production still counts as development cycle, no? In addition, we have no idea, but I think 100 people could be working on The Lost Legacy while the others work on TLOU2. That would still be more than adequate for a supposedly 4-8 hours expansion, more than whole studios for some devs, in fact.
TLOU2 has definitely been in development for a while. I mean we've had multiple leaks confirming it.
Character artist linkedin
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=956725
Then Frank Tzeng, who replaced him as lead character artist, has had this in his linkedin description since 2014
Nolan North back in June 2015
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1072550
Josh Scherr in September 2015
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1112054
There's definitely been a skeleton crew working on stuff in the background, likely overseen by Neil/Bruce. Obviously most of their time was dedicated to Uncharted, but I think a decent amount of work was done to allow them to hit the ground running after uc4 shipped. I don't think it's out of the question that the game will ship in 2018
For Left Behind, about half the team worked on it.
Character artist linkedin
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=956725
Then Frank Tzeng, who replaced him as lead character artist, has had this in his linkedin description since 2014
Nolan North back in June 2015
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1072550
Josh Scherr in September 2015
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1112054
There's definitely been a skeleton crew working on stuff in the background, likely overseen by Neil/Bruce. Obviously most of their time was dedicated to Uncharted, but I think a decent amount of work was done to allow them to hit the ground running after uc4 shipped. I don't think it's out of the question that the game will ship in 2018
For Left Behind, about half the team worked on it.
LiquidSolid
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They haven't had a solo director since Uncharted 1 and their current structure has been really successful, so I'd be pretty surprised if that were the case.
My guess is either Straley will hook back up with the team once he comes back or Margenau will move over to it once The Lost Legacy is done.
Depends. TLOU1 had a full pre-production team working on it while the rest of the studio worked on Uncharted 3, so I would count those years. But in this case, it sounds like TLOU2 was more of a side-project they worked on in their spare time while they finished Uncharted 4, so I wouldn't count it.
How so? Sounds like a lot of speculation on your part.
Don't suppose you know how many employees were at ND back then? We know early this year that they have over 300 people now.
When Neil/Bruce took over UC4 it was around 200.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...naughty-dog-uncharted-and-the-last-of-us.aspx
unknownstranger
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My guesses:
Uncharted: The Lost Legacy Mid 2017
Detroit October 2017
Grand Turismo Sport November 2017
Knack 2 Late 2017
FromSoftware New Souls-like IP Early 2018
God of War March 2018
Days Gone Fall 2017/early 2018
Spider-Man Fall 2017/early 2018
Death Stranding Mid 2019
Last of Us Part 2 Late 2018
Sucker Punch New IP mid 2018
I'm a bit more optimistic than you on a lot of them. Our biggest difference is I think either Days Gone or Spider-Man comes out next year. Days Gone not being at PSX means nothing to me as no matter what it would have been heavily overshadowed by The Last of Us Part 2. My thought with Spider-Man is they're going to try to push for it to release while the upcoming movie is relevant, so my guess is when it comes to Blu-Ray. Sucker Punch has been insanely quiet, but unless they've been having major development issues, it's hard for me to think that they need over 4 years of development since they finished First Light.
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