Robb
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PS5 era profits exceed $13 billion, more than the profits from PS1-PS2-PS3-PS4 put together

That's outstanding.
PS5 era profits exceed $13 billion, more than the profits from PS1-PS2-PS3-PS4 put together
As long as they measure the number the same way every year, every quarter, then the numbers are valid. You compare the numbers last year to this year. As long as the method is identical then the ratios are right. This is why inflating the books is discouraged, because it makes it harder for the numbers to go up next year. Basically what you are saying makes no business sense.
In case you don't realize, three of the things you listed are exactly why they made money. Unless you think Sony magically get paid when you are happy?
In what way was hardware discounts suppose to increase profits? Are you living in upside down world where the less you charge the more you get paid?
That kind of thinking is why Xbox couldn't make money.
Do these things make you less happy? Sure. But your happiness is not linked to company profitability, or Xbox would be making billions off their worshipers by their faith alone. This is not a game of Civlization 6 where Faith is a currency.
Capitalism. You have to make 2 billion and 1 dollar more next year and every year forever. Otherwise you fail, even if you generate a massive profit. It has to be more and more and more until the sun diesYet no one gets made when they raise prices on everything? If profits are that high... How many times has the monthly sub bumped?
Totally organic… almost 100% word by word same post by multiple users. I love having people jumping in threads like this (threads that are not shitting on anyone else) like moths to the flame astroturfers and console warriors reveal themselvesGreed, just pure greed. How much profit does a company need at the expense of it's customers whilst still laying off employees. Defend them if you want, the big corporation needs your support.
Awesome! I hope we have Playstation for many decades to come, but that it returns more to what made its beginning so great. Here's to the years to come!![]()
PlayStation would do perfectly fine without any exclusive game.Really just shows that exclusives doesn't sell systems alone.
Undoubtedly, but if Sony wants to parade around these figures, I'll take them at their word. And then I'll ask the logical questions: why are you jacking up your prices and firing your employees? Anyone still trying to justify corporate greed isn't a serious person.... Financial jargon. Operating income is the profit after deducting day-day operation costs. Net income is profit after deducting all other costs outside of that. And then there's stuff that you can't possibly numerate like opportunity cost. They've covered themselves, just putting up the nicer (and still real) number in flashing lights to placate and attract investment.
I think that their Hero project initiative in China first, India later, and now Africa are quite amazing ideas to both bring new developers to the table (which is producing results helping the Sony brand and the software diversity of their ecosystem they have publishing deals with), elevate the quality of the CS / Gaming / Digital Arts related curricula and the quality of the teams everyone outsources some work to, and also cultivate relationships in these emerging economies which would help popularise their IPs and their HW.This generation they've also made headway into Asian markets like China and India, they're truly a global brand now.
This is extremely disingenuous. Mega corporations have to keep their shareholders happy. A baseline of profit is expected. When you're an investor in the corporation expecting ROI (Return On Investment), you don't want to hear "we decided to leave money on the table by not responding to changing market conditions which have made our product more expensive to produce and sell." You want to hear that price adjustments were made to respond to those changing conditions to maintain the profit standard you have already been enjoying.So basicly they just increased the PS5 price of pure greed and not couse of increased production cost and inflation.
How to shoot yourself in the leg (Produced by Sony)
It's not that simple.Undoubtedly, but if Sony wants to parade around these figures, I'll take them at their word. And then I'll ask the logical questions: why are you jacking up your prices and firing your employees? Anyone still trying to justify corporate greed isn't a serious person.
It is impressive and sad at the same time.Wow. This is an impressive stat imo
Ah. I often forget about that distinction. Now that you mention it, yeah, their net income is going to be noticeably lower. All those acquisitions and dumbass decisions pile up.
As for Xbox, I can't speculate on hard numbers because they obfuscate and hide as much as possible. Even their income calculations and definitions are sketchy. That said, it has always made transitive sense that Xbox is actual losing money in the absolute sense, but either way, they're clearly not making enough to keep them invested long term if things don't drastically improve.
Financial jargon. Operating income is the profit after deducting day-day operation costs. Net income is profit after deducting all other costs outside of that. And then there's stuff that you can't possibly numerate like opportunity cost. They've covered themselves, just putting up the nicer (and still real) number in flashing lights to placate and attract investment.
Their brains works differently, I can't stand them playing 1000+ hours basically doing the same thing. I can never understand that pov for the rest of my life.I can't name one, but that's just me.
Gen Z and younger, are not big into single player games the way past gens were.
Blue Critter signing in b1ch.
Let's bring some reality to this early. Critical thinking questions, everyone:
1. Does this account for inflation?
2. What are their profit margins looking like before or after inflation?
With those numbers, PS6 generation is going to be dog water. :^(
Arrogant Sony will return for revenge.
They are not charity.Greed, just pure greed. How much profit does a company need at the expense of it's customers whilst still laying off employees. Defend them if you want, the big corporation needs your support.
#SonygafI hope they at least send some keychains for the iron dome they have over here.
Taking inflation into account:
PS1: $5.8 billion.
PS2: $3.3 billion.
PS3: -5.6 billion.
PS4: $11.3 billion.
PS5: $10.2 billion.
The reason the 'PS5 generation' did so well is because the PS4 did well and continued to do well for most of this generation. PS5 only just became Sonys 'main' console.These are the useful numbers.
To me, the main reason PS5 is doing well is simply because PS4 did well and PS5 has been marketed as a continuation console much like the Switch 2. There's nothing revolutionary about it but then there doesn't need to be. Obviously most people are pretty happy with the machine if they're pouring so much money into it despite what doomsayers on the internet will have you believe.
The losses during the PS3 era were insane but then again it humbled Sony and probably helped them in the long run. Getting Cerny to design the PS4 system architecture, moving them away from expensive custom designs (teh power of the Cell!) towards x86 plus borderline off-the-shelf AMD parts, was the way to go.
They also aren't needing to contend with expensive ah format wars any more with brand new Blu-ray tech in every console. I was puzzled by how much less money they made in the PS2 era until I remembered how high the hardware costs must've been with the DVD player.
This guy looks like a raging alcoholic with a very punchable face. How is his hair, face and teeth a different shade of the same color?the real reason why ps5 is so successfull.............................
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And yet you gold medal retard Olympians are already lining up for your $80 preorders and $200 PS+ Pricing Tiers as you post defense essays on forums and podcasts about "MuH Inflaysion", "$80 Chronus Traggers in 1995", and "$300 billion gaymes" justifying it. May you choke on the shit sandwiches these companies stuff down your throat.
This is pretty sad. We allow a company to completely waste a whole generation and we reward them for it.
I think the Ps3 had the best system features of any console. A mutimedia machine with free online multiplayer, and the second most varied library of games behind the PS2, but lacks the big AAA exclusives like the PS4 and PS5.Even though I have played through all PlayStation generations, PS3 is the one I'm most fond of. The one that nearly sinked them gave me the most joy entertainment wise.
Sony is the only one of the Big 3 that isn't selling $80 games yet what are you talking about?And yet you gold medal retard Olympians are already lining up for your $80 preorders and $200 PS+ Pricing Tiers as you post defense essays on forums and podcasts about "MuH Inflaysion", "$80 Chronus Traggers in 1995", and "$300 billion gaymes" justifying it. May you choke on the shit sandwiches these companies stuff down your throat.
I set the Bitter Critters up to be exterminated a day earlyI feel this news will hurt the haters big time, bring them back to reality...
There is what you feel and believe and then there is actual facts and stats.
So much content exist on PS, its hard to have any gen without it as a gamer without missing out on some massive properties.
People complaining about "golden era" is about the same as people compaining about gold box rpgThe golden era of Playstation is absolutely nothing in comparison
let that sink in for a sec..... still smiling? feels good right? yeah?
how? they basically reduced microsoft to being a third party.That's nuts. I feel like the PS5 library isn't that impressive but this is the power of a strong brand.
It is impressive and sad at the same time.
Since the Playstation userbase has seen zero growth it's the same old Sony fans getting utterly milked.
PS gaming division profits skyrocketed the second console gamers started amping up on digital sales, which means all those cuts to from Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart disc sales to Sony. And that goes for game sales and when mtx really ramped up which was middle of PS4 era.These are the useful numbers.
To me, the main reason PS5 is doing well is simply because PS4 did well and PS5 has been marketed as a continuation console much like the Switch 2. There's nothing revolutionary about it but then there doesn't need to be. Obviously most people are pretty happy with the machine if they're pouring so much money into it despite what doomsayers on the internet will have you believe.
The losses during the PS3 era were insane and likely single handedly explains the headline, but then again it humbled Sony and probably helped them in the long run. Getting Cerny to design the PS4 system architecture, moving them away from expensive custom designs (teh power of the Cell!) towards x86 plus borderline off-the-shelf AMD parts, was the way to go.
They also aren't needing to contend with expensive ah format wars any more with brand new Blu-ray tech in every console. I was puzzled by how much less money they made in the PS2 era until I remembered how high the hardware costs must've been with the DVD player.
6. Can't play borrowed/second-hand games on digital consoles. One sold digital game = (almost) only one householdMy theory of this weird phenomenon with PS5 big success even with so many Sony managements blunders:
1. Ps5 is really a good hardware.
2. PS fans are really patient and loyal.
3. There are so many Xbox refugee.
4. There are many gamers from PC community who finally brought Ps5 because they cannot wait for the one year or longer exclusivity on some ps5 exclusives or 2nd or 3rd party time exclusives.
5. Upcoming exclusives.
It's because that generation had Folklore.Even though I have played through all PlayStation generations, PS3 is the one I'm most fond of. The one that nearly sinked them gave me the most joy entertainment wise.
Elden Ring greets you with 30M salesI can't name one, but that's just me.
Gen Z and younger, are not big into single player games the way past gens were.
6. Can't play borrowed/second-hand games on digital consoles. One sold digital game = (almost) only one household
7. Almost non-existent sales on digital PS5 first party titles.
8. High subscription costs
It's weird people get funny about these numbers.I feel this news will hurt the haters big time, bring them back to reality...
There is what you feel and believe and then there is actual facts and stats.
So much content exist on PS, its hard to have any gen without it as a gamer without missing out on some massive properties.