Sony X800D well - reviewed, 4k+HDR TV with low input lag
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I'm using one of these (https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00FK0YSOY/ 10m, 33 feet) to directly connect my PC to the TV and it works perfectly fine so far for 4k60 gaming from the PC. Can't comment on HDR stuff on PC since there is just literally one still image demo but haven't seen any artifacts or other anomalies whatsoever.
Vendor has a disclaimer that anything >9m might need a HDMI signal booster though since it's out of HDMI cable spec apparently.
I haven't noticed any personally.
Markitron
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Great, thanks. I think ghosting is really only an issue with older and/or cheaper panels, so it was probably just paranoia on my part.
alexbull_uk
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This TV available in the U.K.? Searched the model number on Amazon but didn't get any results.
XP_version2
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Yeah, it's the KD43XD8077SU. I've got the 49" waiting at Argos for collection but I'm still weighing it up.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01HM7JNLU/
The rtings review has the pixel response time at ~13ms for this panel, which is actually quite good. Better than all of Samsung's 2016 offerings. You'd pretty much either need a monitor or an OLED panel to do noticeably better, I wouldn't worry about it.
alexbull_uk
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Cheers for that. Price is a shame, £699 vs $650, but does look like an awesome TV. Might treat myself around Xmas, I've already got an 'ok' 4K TV to tide me over.
dreamer3kx
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Damn I'm pissed I bought that 4k "HDR" Hisense already on Amazon DayIt's not even HDR, they flat out lied lol. Could've easily saved up and bought this instead. Damnit.
Yea I had to do a little digging, its HDR but only via the usb port, they keep saying they will update for hdmi but its bs from them, will never get a Hisense set.
One of the weaknesses of this panel, I think. Not particularly high; it seems to maintain ~375 nits both peak and sustained.
What a confusion . Someone here said it was this one Sony KD-43X8305C: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00VV8GOMS/
I'm interested especially because my TV is dying but right now it seems impossible to truly know which model it is here in Europe.
That TV came out last year.
It also has a different TV stand.
2016 models have D in their names instead of C which are 2015 models.
Still confusing, I know.
XP_version2
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Is this worth buying if I've already got a non-HDR 4K set (LG 42UB820V)?
Am I really going to see that much of a difference? Ignoring the fact that I'm going from 42 to 49" of course.
Am I really going to see that much of a difference? Ignoring the fact that I'm going from 42 to 49" of course.
thanks, yes that seems a bit low. might be ok in a dark room which is mostly how i game anyway.
Thanks!
Considering this as well.
Could you speak to how this TV performs strictly as a computer monitor? Thinking about getting one as a monitor.
From my understanding the last two digits are just regional codes. Sony.de for example lists 8005, 8077, 8088 and 8099 and there is no difference whatsoever on the spec sheets. http://www.sony.de/electronics/fernseher/xd8005-series/specifications
I don't use it as desktop and I can't really test any workflow due to the location and orientation of my PC+KBM. The TV only serves as Steam Big Picture Mode client in my setup in regards to PC connectivity.
XP_version2
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Color maybe? Argos list all the 77's as Silver and the 88's as black.
Possibly. I haven't seen any store around here listing anything but black though. All these model numbers are confusing lmao
Mrstriker09
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How do i make it HDR? its unchecked
What do you mean? The TV will go into HDR mode once it detects HDR playback on the current source. You can also force it into HDR mode from the "Picture" settings but that won't make non-HDR content HDR.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I have a 2015 Sony TV, and you have to go to the settings and turn on HDMI enhanced mode to enable HDR. Not sure what it's like on the 2016 TV's though.
Mrstriker09
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Thanks got it.
That input lag is average for a TV. For something better, you should probably look for PC monitors.
999 for 55 inch version of the TV!
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01IW652YC/
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01IW652YC/
Pankratous
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I might hold out for January sales.
Just saw this TV for the first time and I have to say for the price the image quality is not bad at all especially compared with more expensive TVs side by side. Of course store demos are always tricky because of cables, settings messed up, etc...
But from seeing it live as someone that doesn't know much about TVs, I didn't see a reason why I wouldn't be happy with this model. It's no LG OLED or Samsung KS8000 (The LG OLED TVs on display are incredible) but for that price I didn't see anything better.
I just found it odd that the store has the X83 models priced cheaper than the X80 models.
But from seeing it live as someone that doesn't know much about TVs, I didn't see a reason why I wouldn't be happy with this model. It's no LG OLED or Samsung KS8000 (The LG OLED TVs on display are incredible) but for that price I didn't see anything better.
I just found it odd that the store has the X83 models priced cheaper than the X80 models.
I know. That is why I wonder why it is considered low. Average input lag. I have a Panasonic Plasma so used to lower. When I read the title I was hoping to finally find a really low Input lag new tv. Would pay a few hundred dollars more if it had sub 20ms input lag.
vanDoughnut
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Here I was thinking 4K and HDR wasn't gonna be affordable for awhile. Not bad.
This is where I'm confused and very surprised by Sony here. They are pushing 4K and HDR with the PS4 Pro very hard but their sets seem to be lacking in the most important (to me at least) aspect of gaming on a TV and that's input lag.
I'm upgrading next fall (saving cash from now) to a Sony TV, (I always buy Sony as I think their picture quality and true to life reds and skin tones outmatch any other TV maker) but I'm wondering which one to get. Is there somewhere that lists all of Sony's input lag specs?
I'm torn between these two and can't seem to find a comprehensive list of differences.
1) http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-75-class-74-5-diag-led-2160p-smart-3d-4k-ultra-hd-tv-with-high-dynamic-range-black/4803900.p?skuId=4803900
2) http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-65...h-dynamic-range-black/5480900.p?skuId=5480900
lowhighkang_LHK
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Lol tell me about it. Basically gave up in frustrationLove researching tech but this 4k/hdr stuff is crazy.
Hdr v hdr compatible v hdr capable
8 bit v 10 bit panel
Questions over viewing distance
Firmware updates (seriously? For a TV?)
Need new receiver too?
Need new(er) HDMI cable too?
4k but not hdr, or is it?
Hdr10 v dolby hdr
What is sdr? Just saw that on a youtube review
Input lag
Only which hdmi port has hdr?
Argh!
I also dont understand what differentiates one at $1500 v $800.
Feel so sorry for that fellow who posted about having bought a tv on prime day that is apparently not HDR despite the box saying so. That was basically me 6 months ago, and sums up how confusing the messaging is around this tech.
It's true. You'd be surprised to know that I'd wager most people on neogaf still have overscan going on with their TV's. Or mismatched RGB settings.
TV manufacturers need to get their shit together and standardize things. Functions, naming, marketing - much like the airline industry.
ACH1LL3US
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Quite frankly it seems like this is intentional. They call something HDR+ which to the mainstream immediately means "HDR+ must be better than HDR" when it's exactly the opposite. It's marketing, the more unclear things are, the big majority of the audience will feel lost and go after what the store reps tell them or about shady demos in the stores trying to push that give the store the bigger profit or clearing stock.
Played around with the settings on the PC end a bit.
One thing that is confusing me is that 10/12bit is available at 4k60 4:2:2 but not 4:2:0. Isn't the former more "detailed" and as such requires more bandwidth?
Btw that one cooking show that Netflix offers in HDR is quite legit actually. And it looks absolutely stunning!
One thing that is confusing me is that 10/12bit is available at 4k60 4:2:2 but not 4:2:0. Isn't the former more "detailed" and as such requires more bandwidth?
Btw that one cooking show that Netflix offers in HDR is quite legit actually. And it looks absolutely stunning!
We must also note that they give different model numbers in some territories to TV's (x650 in one and HT205 in another, making up) so it makes it hard as fuck to research the actual capabilities of the said TV in those territories that probably lack detailed reviews.
longdi
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Played around with the settings on the PC end a bit.
One thing that is confusing me is that 10/12bit is available at 4k60 4:2:2 but not 4:2:0. Isn't the former more "detailed" and as such requires more bandwidth?
Btw that one cooking show that Netflix offers in HDR is quite legit actually. And it looks absolutely stunning!
Thanks so is confirmed we cant get 4:4:4 for 10bit using PC?
Btw it is a real 12bit panel?
It's a real 10-bit panel.
I think that's been confirmed before. Apparently a bandwidth limitation of the current HDMI standard
XP_version2
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This might be a stupid question but does the TV upscale from USB? Or am going to get better results playing the file from an Xbox One S?
shouamabane
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I recommend waiting a few years on 4K. TVs and consoles just aren't quite there yet.
43" is 873€. Still way to high for me.