Fabieter
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Wirh sony going more of a hybrid route for their next system, steam deck 2 is gonna be alot more attractive. Console like experience with all the games no sub and better sales.
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Wirh sony going more of a hybrid route for their next system, steam deck 2 is gonna be alot more attractive. Console like experience with all the games no sub and better sales.
Mr Moose
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Yes, lets rejoice now that Sony might be following MicroSoft in killing their console.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
No, you literally said cloud and services will take over. You're incorrect.
Steam will just subsume the leftovers of the core gaming space that Nintendo doesn't otherwise monopolize. That's it. Core gaming will be a lesser concern of the mainstream going forward. There is no mass movement to cloud or paying subscriptions for "access" to games. It's done after this.
balls of snow
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Ehh if people want more 200 million dollar blockbusters then this is what has to happen. Gow, Uncharted, tlou and Death stranding are glorious but those cost big money to make.
And with younglings not caring one way or another for either platform or sp games, the pool of people buying these games is getting smaller.
And with younglings not caring one way or another for either platform or sp games, the pool of people buying these games is getting smaller.
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Fabieter
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This goes so much deeper than just releasing games everywhere.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
You will not get contemporary equivalents of those kinds of games as PS dissolves itself. The business and incentive structure no longer exists. Say goodbye to them.
MacReady13
Member
Actually doesn't really concern me at all. Been going more towards Switch 2/PC the last few months. Sony's 1st party output doesn't interest me at all, and even if they do release something I might like, I'll just wait for it to come to PC.
Loxus
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That would be wake up call number 2.
Sony has to be really careful with devaluing the Playstation hardware. It generates more revenue for them from hardware sales, 3rd parties and subscribers. Exclusives aren't enough.
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tmlDan
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no, i also said consoles will always exist, read it again
HeisenbergFX4
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Hollowpoint5557
A Fucking Idiot
Wait, I'm confused. I read that the reason Microsoft did this first was that they were dying. Has the narrative changed now or is that still what's happening, but with Sony now as well?
Mr.ODST
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Narratives changed and sony fanboys playing the "oh yeah lets celebrate Sony going multiplatform" gaslighting
Fabieter
Member
You can really say that Microsoft always was ahead of the curve. They just missed the timing every single time but it seems their idea was always the right way.
LordOcidax
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Wait until you start reading that Nintendo is devil for not going third party… Is going to happen… Trust me.
PeteBull
Member
I would gladly switch current sony/playstation leadership for crazy ken, at least i would be sure we gonna get 999$ ps6 which likely costs 1200$+ to make, with a fucking discdrive!!!
StereoVsn
Gold Member
No, no, considering the "quality" of some of their titles, I will get them a year later after patches and large discounts!
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Wait, I thought PS5s were profitable after the redesigns that shrink the cost? Sony is still running the a loss on hardware?
coachmcguirk91
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Why wouldn't a Wolverine game be something to be excited for? You may not like it, but it should sell 10+mil just like the Spider-Man games did. Ghost of Yotei will probably be the best selling single player game of the year, and it is only coming out on one platform
The output this generation has been somewhat dissapointing, but Playstation still has 4-5 of the top 25 studios in the industry. Every first party Playstation AAA single player game has been nominated for GOTY dating back 6-7 years. They have won GOTY 3 times in that span. The quality of their games is usually extremely high
As a PS5 owner, I like playing all AAA games day 1, including GTA 6. That doesn't matter to you, which is fine, but it does to many gamers
Mr Moose
Member
Who is doing that?
You sure? Because PlayStations most profitable generation is happening now while they have games on PC , Xbox & Switch . Monthly users is over 100 million & subs are up .
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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I don't see how they think they'll continue making record profits without the console hardware.
That was MS's blundering mistake. They deluded themselves into thinking the hardware didn't matter, then realized that as hardware sales tanked, so did GamePass subs growth.
PS makes most of its money from platform royalties from third part game and MTXs sales on their digital platform. And their digital platform is enabled purely by their hardware. They can delude themselves into thinking that putting a PS launcher on PC, and a mobile/TV streaming storefront will provide a meaningful replacement, but it won't.
Gamers love hardware. De-prioritize that and you will end up irrelevant like Xbox increasingly is.
I just can't believe PS is considering this. We're truly in clown world at this point.
That was MS's blundering mistake. They deluded themselves into thinking the hardware didn't matter, then realized that as hardware sales tanked, so did GamePass subs growth.
PS makes most of its money from platform royalties from third part game and MTXs sales on their digital platform. And their digital platform is enabled purely by their hardware. They can delude themselves into thinking that putting a PS launcher on PC, and a mobile/TV streaming storefront will provide a meaningful replacement, but it won't.
Gamers love hardware. De-prioritize that and you will end up irrelevant like Xbox increasingly is.
I just can't believe PS is considering this. We're truly in clown world at this point.
balls of snow
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I read it as not having exclusives locked to a system like say mgs4 on ps3. Im gussing the entire ( or at least 3/4) of ps6 gen will be crossgen because of the handheld and the ps5 install base. The playstation platform. With steam lagging a year or so with ports. Gaas will be multiplatform of course.
Fabieter
Member
Would this change for you if they going for day and date with PC?
Unknown?
Member
Duh, because it takes time. Kinect helped kill when it released Xbox despite 360 doing really well. It soured their core audience and many left once X1 released.
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Fabieter
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Yeah I think this too but I also think we are looking at day and date pc releases, more subs, services, cross media and less innovation for the hardware, I mean why bother with r&d.
So if you're able to buy the games on steam, why would you keep a playstation plus subscription or even be invested in the ecosystem anymore? They make a majority of their revenue by keeping customers locked in their ecosystem, as soon as games are available dayone on steam, say goodbye to anymore subscribers. People will just buy the games at discounted prices on steam and the playstation brand gets diluted into irrelevance another more publisher like Activision. I
Fabieter
Member
Its hardly compereable with no forced subs and shit ton of mtx. That doesnt mean there won't be a drop off next gen.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
You keep trying to paper over what you said. Sure, consoles will "exist", but you yourself basically said they'll be irrelevant.
"Hardware will always be there but it will not be the majority, it'll be old guys clinging to the past".
I'm here to tell you that core gaming goes with hardware. Console hardware in particular. It's the only thing that gives the market and technological infrastructure needed for the medium in any recognizable form.
HeisenbergFX4
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A lot of people prefer consoles for convenience and price