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[Alan Wake]

The writing has been on the wall for a decade or more. No more physical Xbox games, no more disc drives. Xbox gamers are mostly buying digital, and it's been like that for years. I don't like it, because I like owning my games and having them on display. But I'm in a shrinking minority here.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

When Microsoft's next "home console" turns out to be nothing more than an ASUS ROG Strix I guess no one can complain about it not supporting physical games as they won't own any.

 

[rofif]

How is it better though? Isn't that kinda the same thing?

I explained in previous post. It's just a physical game without 1.0 dude.

Game on key cart/disc:
-not tied to any account, so nobody can take or hack it away from you
-can buy from anywhere and get deals fro
Retailers. Can sell. Not reliant on digital deals.
-can play offline after one install. Disc authorise a the files you have installed from online.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

It's an inevitability really. I buy some Blurays in 4K and vinyl because it's fun to collect and play, but it doesn't really make much sense for games. There's no difference in quality like a BluRay, and there's no machine that can play all your physical games like a record player does with vinyl.

 

[ValiantInstance]

Makes more money then ever before 'implosion' lol.

Game Pass is not growing, nothing they've tried has pushed the needle. This won't work either.

 

[Esppiral]

Me reportedly moving away from Xbox.

 

[Astray]

Talking about the obvious trend for physical media. Buy whatever you want I guess. Wont affect me.

I personally think it's not a coincidence that the console brand that is abandoning physical also got abandoned by retail and consumers.

A trend is only happening because certain market players want it to be so, and it's happening at their larger detriment imo.

 

[Klayzer]

I personally think it's not a coincidence that the console brand that is abandoning physical also got abandoned by retail and consumers.

A trend is only happening because certain market players want it to be so, and it's happening at their larger detriment imo.

Which is kind of funny and ironic. A lot of Xfans scream about choice when it comes to Gamepass. But now doesn't care about choice with regards to physical media.

 

[Cakeboxer]

Not surprised. I expect Switch 2 + PS6 to be the last gen with physical games.

 

[ValiantInstance]

As soon as every console goes fully digital, I'll just build a separate pc for the living room and keep my old consoles so I can play my library. Because why on earth wouldn't I do that?

 

[drganon]

Which is kind of funny and ironic. A lot of Xfans scream about choice when it comes to Gamepass. But now doesn't care about choice with regards to physical media.

It's their marching orders.

 

[kruis]

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/24q4_supplement.pdf

Indie titles and smaller games that aren't released on Blu-Ray are also considered full games. It would be much more interesting to know the digital download ration only of games that were released on disc.

 

[kruis]

That is why I believe Ps6 will still have two versions on launch, digital and with discdrive.

There are at least 100 million PS4 and PS5 owners with a physical games library. All those purchased games will be useless if the PS6 is digital only.

 

[ArtHands]

Nintendo isn't "pushing" for digital. They are allowing publishers to still release games "physically" on the system even if the file sizes are too big.

Also If game cards were less expensive this wouldn't even be an issue on Switch 2

Seems it is certainly heading that direction either way.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Because Sony themselves is also in on the digital push. There is a reason why they are the only platform that doesn't sell digital game on 3rd party retailers.

I'm talking about the PS3 / (early) PS4 days back when retail was still important. Even broken games like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 were on disc and technically you could run them without downloading the latest version.

It's one thing to offer Key Cards as an official way of selling retail games, but if you're using bluray you should include some version of the build on it.

 

[Judge Magister]

No it won't we still have boxed PC games everywhere! Notice how no one complains about Steam but consoles people act like the same result isn't on the brink. The companies aren't going to change, let it go. I don't like it either but it is what it is.

I didn't understand if you agree that physical is inevitablly doomed or not.
Boxed PC games? You mean a boxed code in a paper. Also when physical is reduced to companies like LGR i don't care about physical.

 

[Mephisto40]

 

[Kerotan]

"If you want physical, luckily we have a console just for you, the playstation 5"

 

[Fluffytheterrible]

Catastrophic. Abysmal.

 

[ArtHands]

I'm talking about the PS3 / (early) PS4 days back when retail was still important. Even broken games like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 were on disc and technically you could run them without downloading the latest version.

It's one thing to offer Key Cards as an official way of selling retail games, but if you're using bluray you should include some version of the build on it.

Those were more than a decades ago. Things change

 

[ArtHands]

There are at least 100 million PS4 and PS5 owners with a physical games library. All those purchased games will be useless if the PS6 is digital only.

They can still continue playing them on PS4 and PS5 when PS6 is out.

Just like how they drop PS3 games support on PS4/5.

 

[drganon]

Thread : xbox moving away from physical media.

Arthands : let me make this about my weird hatred of Playstation.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

They can still continue playing them on PS4 and PS5 when PS6 is out.

Just like how they drop PS3 games support on PS4/5.

Any particular reason why you'd want to deny physical media to those who prefer it?

 

[Fabieter]

Any particular reason why you'd want to deny physical media to those who prefer it?

There is no good reason to not at least do limited runs and selling the disc drive as an extra.

To just say it's 2025 is a stupid conversation stopper.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Not surprised. I expect Switch 2 + PS6 to be the last gen with physical games.

Switch 2 already started the same process. I predict even Nintendo games will be released on game-key. Eventually only Playstation will have physical games.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Any particular reason why you'd want to deny physical media to those who prefer it?

Physical media puts them in a harder spot trying to push forward their primary objective now which is Xbox Anywhere.

Xbox Anywhere is their strategy for transitioning console players to PC.

If they have ~30 million XBS sold, around half of that is XSS... it's already digital only. So the ceiling of their physical media sales is about ~15 million worldwide.

That's not significant, especially with a lot of people only playing games on GamePass. Let's say you have 9 million people even buying discs which is generous *assuming that 70 percent of the consumerbase is digital and 100% of XSS is digital) leaving the remaining 20% digital and 30% physical on XSX.

That's less than the Dreamcast...

 

[Punished Miku]

I personally think it's not a coincidence that the console brand that is abandoning physical also got abandoned by retail and consumers.

A trend is only happening because certain market players want it to be so, and it's happening at their larger detriment imo.

Well good luck. As I said earlier, none of that affects me in any way. I just read some of the replies on here and feel compelled to warn people sometimes. Hope it works out.

 

[cireza]

"If you want physical, luckily we have a console just for you, the playstation 5"

Good.

Should have added below in small letters :
It's also an Xbox

 

[IDKFA]

This is the way the industry is heading. Give it a few years and it'll all be digital only.

 

[Fabieter]

This is the way the industry is heading. Give it a few years and it'll all be digital only.

I believe that once physical games are gone, local gaming will be next. After that, they'll push everything toward streaming only. Are we just supposed to accept that and say, That's just where the industry is going?

 

[IDKFA]

I believe that once physical games are gone, local gaming will be next. After that, they'll push everything toward streaming only. Are we just supposed to accept that and say, That's just where the industry is going?

I don't like the idea of an all streaming future at all. I don't think it'll go that far.

However, if the majority of the public are comfortable with streaming their games then what can we do?

 

[AJUMP23]

I like some things about the digital future, I do not like not actually having physical copies of games.

 

[Fabieter]

I don't like the idea of an all streaming future at all. I don't think it'll go that far.

However, if the majority of the public are comfortable with streaming their games then what can we do?

Well it will be the only way for them to ever kill piracy so after killing the second hand market In a few years its the next logical step.

I mean not be comfortable with less options is a good start i guess. There are so many people just saying its 2025, like wtf!.

 

[m14]

There are at least 100 million PS4 and PS5 owners with a physical games library. All those purchased games will be useless if the PS6 is digital only.

How is that bad for Sony? They love nothing more than selling the same games over and over again. "Press x to repurchase."

Thread : xbox moving away from physical media.

Arthands : let me make this about my weird hatred of Playstation.

ArtHands: Makes a valid critique of Sony's abysmal record with backwards compatibility.
Ganon: Stop upsetting me with your facts! (And you people claim others have a persecution complex. )

It's a good question though- how many PS3 games can you play on PS5, emoji boy?

List of backward-compatible games for Xbox One and Series X/S - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[IDKFA]

Well it will be the only way for them to ever kill piracy so after killing the second hand market In a few years its the next logical step.

I mean not be comfortable with less options is a good start i guess. There are so many people just saying its 2025, like wtf!.

If gaming goes all digital, then all streaming, it'll be the only entertainment medium to do so.

Most people watch films and TV via streaming, but you can still buy physical discs and digital downloads (mostly anyway. Some shows and TV are locked to streaming services)

Music is the same. Yes, streaming is the dominant format, but there is still a market for CDs and vinyl records.

Books are the odd one out. You can't stream a book. There is the kindle with digital books and you can rent books with Kindle unlimited, but physical books are still king.

Gaming would be the only one to take away the option of physical media. PC did it years ago. Microsoft are doing this now with Xbox. Nintendo and Sony will be next.

 

[Orbital2060]

As is the rest of the world. Nobody cares about physical media, its for old people.

 

[Shubh_C63]

We can't run from the inevitable, only delay it.
We should thank Steam. Sooner or later its dominance and existence is inevitable and forever also.

 

[Fabieter]

If gaming goes all digital, then all streaming, it'll be the only entertainment medium to do so.

Most people watch films and TV via streaming, but you can still buy physical discs and digital downloads (mostly anyway. Some shows and TV are locked to streaming services)

Music is the same. Yes, streaming is the dominant format, but there is still a market for CDs and vinyl records.

Books are the odd one out. You can't stream a book. There is the kindle with digital books and you can rent books with Kindle unlimited, but physical books are still king.

Gaming would be the only one to take away the option of physical media. PC did it years ago. Microsoft are doing this now with Xbox. Nintendo and Sony will be next.

So why would gaming be the only media that kills physical consumption? That doesnt make any sense.

 

[Horseganador]

Xbox is determined to end the physical format. It's ironic that the PS5 versions come with a disc, but the Xbox version only comes with a code. They treat Sony users better than their own.

 

[Shubh_C63]

If gaming goes all digital, then all streaming, it'll be the only entertainment medium to do so.
Most people watch films and TV via streaming, but you can still buy physical discs and digital downloads (mostly anyway. Some shows and TV are locked to streaming services)
Music is the same. Yes, streaming is the dominant format, but there is still a market for CDs and vinyl records.
Books are the odd one out. You can't stream a book. There is the kindle with digital books and you can rent books with Kindle unlimited, but physical books are still king.
Gaming would be the only one to take away the option of physical media. PC did it years ago. Microsoft are doing this now with Xbox. Nintendo and Sony will be next.

Even if TV show, Movies, Music and books are available physically, they are not as huge and ever updating nature as Games are.
Games are 100gb affairs and keeps updating unlike any of these media which are one and done deal.

Wish we could get physical all the way, only stupid people would want less options. But its inevitable.

 

[m14]

Xbox is determined to end the physical format. It's ironic that the PS5 versions come with a disc, but the Xbox version only comes with a code. They treat Sony users better than their own.

The PS5 disc is literally a coaster.

Doom: The Dark Ages Physical Version Controversy Explained

Doom: The Dark Ages has been performing well with fans, but it has also snagged on a notable controversy relating to its physical version.

gamerant.com

 

[Fabieter]

Even if TV show, Movies, Music and books are available physically, they are not as huge and ever updating nature as Games are.
Games are 100gb affairs and keeps updating unlike any of these media which are one and done deal.

Wish we could get physical all the way, only stupid people would want less options. But its inevitable.

LOTR 4K Extended Editions are around 180–200GB per film, split across 2 UHD discs each. I dont know alot of games having that kind of capacity.

 

[kruis]

As is the rest of the world. Nobody cares about physical media, its for old people.

I don't give a fuck about physical media, what matters to me is PRICE. I'd rather buy the physical disc version of a brandnew PS5 game for 60 euro from an online retailer than the digital version at the Playstation store for 80 euro.

 

[IDKFA]

Even if TV show, Movies, Music and books are available physically, they are not as huge and ever updating nature as Games are.
Games are 100gb affairs and keeps updating unlike any of these media which are one and done deal.

Wish we could get physical all the way, only stupid people would want less options. But its inevitable.

That is an excellent point.

Books, films and music don't require massive updates like games and are far smaller in size. Like you pointed out, this wasn't how it used to be, but gaming evolved and it's now more of a service than a product, making harder to justify a physical release.

 

[Bond007]

Im done with XBOX consoles.
Ive grabbed some of their recent releases on PS5 and while im not thrilled about the disc not holding the entire game (Indy) - atleast i still own the disc that can be sold, traded, or passed through the multiple PS5s in my home(i have kids).

I will be skipping out on their releases if they go straight digital on PS5 like they did with Forza. I just wont do it- and for as long as their is an option to go physical i will stay on that path. This didnt have to be inevitable, but gamers chose convenience over ownership of a product- and they will take advantage of us for it.

 

[Deerock71]

 

[IDKFA]

LOTR 4K Extended Editions are around 180–200GB per film, split across 2 UHD discs each. I dont know alot of games having that kind of capacity.

Sorry for the double post. I didn't see your reply.

Films don't require day one patches. 4K films are massive in size, but they work out of the box. A large majority of games require patches and/or are designed for future updates.

 

[Shubh_C63]

LOTR 4K Extended Editions are around 180–200GB per film, split across 2 UHD discs each. I dont know alot of games having that kind of capacity.

Yes and those are exceptions. Most I assume are just contained to one or some blu ray discs.
Even 500gb movie collection is a done deal. No bug can be introduced to stop you from watching the third act unlike video games, especially modern broken video games.

 

[drganon]

How is that bad for Sony? They love nothing more than selling the same games over and over again. "Press x to repurchase."


ArtHands: Makes a valid critique of Sony's abysmal record with backwards compatibility.
Ganon: Stop upsetting me with your facts! (And you people claim others have a persecution complex. )

It's a good question though- how many PS3 games can you play on PS5, emoji boy?

List of backward-compatible games for Xbox One and Series X/S - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Of course you'd defend his dumb posts. Stick to shilling the series s, it's all you're good for.

 

[ArtHands]

Any particular reason why you'd want to deny physical media to those who prefer it?

I don't particularly care about denying physical. Especially when the rise of digital is inevitable, and clear as day right from the start this was going to happen.