remember_spinal
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And they'll probably be right.
Sony has the opportunity to create their own splatoon or apex
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Sonys upcoming Multiplayer Games have the ability to take them to the next level
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And they'll probably be right.
Sony has the opportunity to create their own splatoon or apex
Batiman
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Why do you think so? Sony has a horrible history with MP. I'd like to be wrong though.
Spatoon is a good example. Highly overrated game from Nintendo fanboys hyping it up because it's one of the only MP games they created. I liked the campaign though
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BlueHawk357
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If you want to play FPS games - PS5 isn't the best place for it any more. Just like if you want to play 4K games - Switch isn't good for that. 
well their curriculum about mp is diametrically opposite at the success of their sp..... is not really well disposed to in view of their failures
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remember_spinal
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The difference is one is a hardware limitation and the other is simply an allocation of resources issue which is being rectified. I know people want to hold these boxes to being good at one thing but its not really how it works. I think maybe some people love the idea of sony being a single player machine and xbox being a multiplayer machine, that way they can make it easier to choose which 500 dollar box to buy.If you want to play FPS games - PS5 isn't the best place for it any more. Just like if you want to play 4K games - Switch isn't good for that.
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Kagey K
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Sounds creative and next level.
It's funny how they have the opportunity to do this now, but not in the last 10 years. Simply amazing.
remember_spinal
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I dont have to be creative, sony studios have to.
Kagey K
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it take years probably more than a gen...just like happened to Xbox one how much time is taking ? none of Sony studios are good at multiplayer games. That tweet say nothing honestly
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remember_spinal
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Yeah, i think the game will be better than the website
Bumblebeetuna
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I hope Sony can bounce back in terms of MP and put out some good shit. SOCOM II is still the pinnacle of online gaming imho, but that was generations ago. I think the game could still work. If you look at something like Rainbow Six, tactical shooters can be very popular still. Throw in third person, people love it.
But lately it seems like every Sony MP attempt has a "but…" attached to it. Killzone 2 was good, but, had sluggish controls and ugly art that threw people off. MAG was solid but, had terrible progression and wasn't popular. Twisted Metal on PS3 was amazing in MP but, had horrific server issues that killed the game. Last of Us was also amazing, but, was ruined with microtransactions and pay to win bullshit.
Tbh I don't have much faith that they'll put something out and not ruin it with monetization.
But lately it seems like every Sony MP attempt has a "but…" attached to it. Killzone 2 was good, but, had sluggish controls and ugly art that threw people off. MAG was solid but, had terrible progression and wasn't popular. Twisted Metal on PS3 was amazing in MP but, had horrific server issues that killed the game. Last of Us was also amazing, but, was ruined with microtransactions and pay to win bullshit.
Tbh I don't have much faith that they'll put something out and not ruin it with monetization.
Lognor
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What stage of grief is this? Is it bargaining?
Other than TLOU, Sony's multiplayer games have been shit. Yes, they've added some talent but that does not guarantee success. They're competing against devs that have been making these types of games for YEARS. Maybe they'll make something like TLOU that has some stickiness for hardcore Sony fans, but I don't see them making anything in the near term that will become the zeitgeist. Nothing like COD or Fortnite or Halo. We'll see though! We haven't even seen what they're working on so it's possible. I'm just not going to be optimistic based on their output.
Other than TLOU, Sony's multiplayer games have been shit. Yes, they've added some talent but that does not guarantee success. They're competing against devs that have been making these types of games for YEARS. Maybe they'll make something like TLOU that has some stickiness for hardcore Sony fans, but I don't see them making anything in the near term that will become the zeitgeist. Nothing like COD or Fortnite or Halo. We'll see though! We haven't even seen what they're working on so it's possible. I'm just not going to be optimistic based on their output.
Decontamination Silo
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If nothing else it will be an interesting test of their objectivity.
TaylorSwiftFan
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Have Sony done many MP-focused game before?
TaylorSwiftFan
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Have you even played the Killzone, Uncharted or Resistance MP before - all fantastic. Better than CoD and Fortnite for sure.
Barakov
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Sad but true. There's been good stuff since then but nothing on the level of tentpole mp games.
Lognor
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Yep, played every single one of them. And I wouldn't consider any of them fantastic. I hated Killzone and Resistance was okay. Uncharted was fun, but it's not a first person shooter. And no, none of them are better than Call of Duty. Fortnite maybe, but that game is trash.
CatLady
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Didn't Drunkman say Factions 2 was going to be very cinematic. Isn't that what all the hardcore competitive FPS players are looking for in their MP games -- more cutscenes.
Decontamination Silo
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Lognor
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Reading the Uncharted 5 review thread I found out that Sony did not include the multiplayer component in the PS5 version! WTF? A real head scratcher.
I would not trust Sony to go all in on multiplayer content. They can't even be bothered to include it in a port of a game that had it! lol
I would not trust Sony to go all in on multiplayer content. They can't even be bothered to include it in a port of a game that had it! lol
Kagey K
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I didn't even get to the job listing I was too busy laughing at the front page.
BIG ANNOUNCEMENTS
So much cringe all over it.
remember_spinal
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The Firewalk, Guerrilla, and Twisted Metal game have been in production since 2018. You can see from their linkedin pages most of these games started production a few years ago.
We also know factions 2 is most likely close to complete. Haven and Deviations games are probably further out. Helldivers 2 was leaked in the GeForce database so its probably this year.
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T0minator
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Well if it turns out to be unique and theres nothing like it then I would see why people would say that.
I'm not particularly interested in multiplayer games but it's clear that Sony has made deals with tons of talented people in the genre.
People who worked on COD, Destiny, Ubisoft Montreal and that's on top of what internal studios like Naughty Dog, Guerrilla, London Studio are making.
The talents are absolutely there and we might see a few of these new projects being unveiled this year.
People who worked on COD, Destiny, Ubisoft Montreal and that's on top of what internal studios like Naughty Dog, Guerrilla, London Studio are making.
The talents are absolutely there and we might see a few of these new projects being unveiled this year.
Lognor
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And you are getting very defensive. So yeah, I guess it goes both ways, huh?
Concern
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remember_spinal
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There is literary NO precedence for Sony making good multiplayer. Every single multi game they have released has been mediocre, at best
Lets face it - they have never released a multiplayer game in the class of even Halo 2, let alone never multiplayer games like minecraft, sea of thieves, infinite, fortnite etc
I am sure they will try
…But expecting singleplayer studios to make "the best multiplayer games"… yeah that is just not realistic expectations (even if you love Sony)
Lets face it - they have never released a multiplayer game in the class of even Halo 2, let alone never multiplayer games like minecraft, sea of thieves, infinite, fortnite etc
I am sure they will try
…But expecting singleplayer studios to make "the best multiplayer games"… yeah that is just not realistic expectations (even if you love Sony)
DForce
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Here's the difference.
I just said I found it funny. I never said you guys should leave.
Some of you guys, on the other hand (especially Concern) complain about Concern trolling in Xbox thread and try to get the Sony guys to leave.
You guys complain the most about this stuff and this is one of the very FEW times I pointed it out.
remember_spinal
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Which single player studios?
Firesprite, deviation, and Firewalk are studios built by vets from multiplayer studios.
Guerrilla has been making multiplayer games for two decades and naughty dog has plenty of multiplayer experience.
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Snake29
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They had big succes in the PS2/PS3 era with Socom (Socom was huge) series and other games. They had also Sony Online Entertainment with Planetside, Everquest etc. H1Z1.
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Swift_Star
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Thia thread is amusing. A lot of people downplaying Sony's ability to make a popular MP game. Let me ask you people something: before the os3 demise and ps4, was Sony able to make the single player they are now? No, they weren't. There's this thing called hiring talent and learning stuff that helps, like sony has been doing. So, I know who are those trying to downplay Sony's effort. I wonder why would they do that…
remember_spinal
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They want to continue having that be "their" thing. If Sony actually get it together and start putting out banger multiplayer games theres almost no argument against their capabilities as a publisher anymore.
No more "hur hur wun and duns" comments after next year/
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T0minator
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As much as I loved Ratchet on PS5 I really wish Insomniac used that time and resources to create a Multiplayer game utilizing the DualSense. Maybe a spiritual successor to Resistance or something entirely new. That would've been a great game to jump in and out of throughout the year.
PlayStation has plans for mp games...they're obviously in development. They've been pretty quiet about their plans, that's been kind of frustrating, but we all know those types of games are coming.
Naughty Dog is taking it seriously and I really like that.
I'm wondering which studio is going to release their game first. OP says Firewalk? Maybe this year?
PlayStation has plans for mp games...they're obviously in development. They've been pretty quiet about their plans, that's been kind of frustrating, but we all know those types of games are coming.
Naughty Dog is taking it seriously and I really like that.
I'm wondering which studio is going to release their game first. OP says Firewalk? Maybe this year?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
TLOU MP wasn't mediocre.
Gran Turismo Sport wasn't medicore
MLB The Show is not mediocre.
When Sea of Thieves was released, the game barely had any content and all Xbox fans were saying was "Oh, I think it's fun. That's all that matters." In their mind it was successful.
The game started doing much better (in terms of sales) when it was released on Steam. The concurrent player count peaked at 66k on steam and it averages around 20k on steam. The game is probably around the same ballpark on Xbox consoles.
So you're telling me that Sea of Thieves is in the league of the other MP titles that you just mentioned and it's an unachievable benchmark?
I said before that TLOU MP is probably their most popular MP game in recent years and it still has an active community online. People who criticize Sony's MP games think this game barely has any players or that it died shortly after it was released.
One of the most important factors when it comes to MP games is the concurrent player count. Xbox guys can't tell me the concurrent player count for Forza Motorsports, Forza Horizon, Sea of Thieves, Gears of War, and Halo. Forza and Halo are two of their biggest MP games to date and the concurrent player count is low on Steam. I think Xbox guys tend to overestimate the popularity of their multiplayer games as some type of unachievable benchmark.
BlueHawk357
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I own all 3 and honestly, PS5 really is not the console for FPS games at all. There are literally no exclusive FPS games on it. Heck even the Switch has a few questionable FPS games but it's more than PS5 still. PlayStation only seem to care for Cinematic action adventure games which isn't a bad thing at all.
remember_spinal
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It's between Factions 2, Firewalks game, and Arrowheads game. They've all had the same amount of production time, around 4-5 years. We'll most likely find out at the next state of play
remember_spinal
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I own all 3 and honestly, PS5 really is not the console for FPS games at all. There are literally no exclusive FPS games on it. Heck even the Switch has a few questionable FPS games but it's more than PS5 still. PlayStation only seem to care for Cinematic action adventure games which isn't a bad thing at all.
I mean, i dont understand your argument. CoD and every other shooter sells the most on playstation so it is the console for FPS. If you're talking about how they don't care about making a exclusive FPS well i just explained in the op why thats changing. It's the entire point of the thread
As of right now the only exclusive fps on xbox is halo and nintendo doesn't have any, nintendo barely even has a functional network for competitive gaming
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Papacheeks
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Let them have their fun. Xbox is in a good place for now and hopefully foreseeable future. Xbox has been the broken dog for an entire gen.
So now all the people who have stuck with the brand can actually share their enthusiasm that doesn't come off reaching.
Mind you this changes nothing from a quality and top tier rating of Sony studios who in my opinion are in a league of their own.
So both party's are fine doing well. It's just they took different approaches to reach different goals.
T0minator
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I'm hoping their state of play is actually on Feb 3rd like some have suggested... but if it's not announced by tomorrow then that state of play won't be happening next week. I'm not familiar with Arrowheads game but Firewalk seems interesting. I've been sick of CoD for a while now, when I'm really bored, I boot it up every once in a while, Halo is starting to get there for me. The PS5 controller is perfect for FPS shooters...they just need to release. Xbox fans wait for great single player experiences and PS fans are waiting great FPS experiences. They've both got what each other doesn't really have much of...its interesting
Edgelord79
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It could happen, but then again, many things could.
Rocco Schiavone
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Sony gives a fuck about mp games these days
Resistance, Killzone, MAG, Socom Warhawk/Starhawk all Games on PS3.
Resistance, Killzone, MAG, Socom Warhawk/Starhawk all Games on PS3.
But for the last week people have been pushing them as the COD killer.
Swift_Star
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Does a console need exclusive fps to be a place for fps? That makes no sense.I own all 3 and honestly, PS5 really is not the console for FPS games at all. There are literally no exclusive FPS games on it. Heck even the Switch has a few questionable FPS games but it's more than PS5 still. PlayStation only seem to care for Cinematic action adventure games which isn't a bad thing at all.