It's not an RPG. It's a South Park game, an RPG second. This game would be horrible if it was 40 hours.
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South Park: The Stick of Truth |OT| Bigger, Longer, and Uncut (In select regions)
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It's not an RPG. It's a South Park game, an RPG second. This game would be horrible if it was 40 hours.
Or that the
mall was never accessible. Or that the crab people were represented by a single, very missable, character and that invasion the guy promised...
I am kind of bummed that this is an Obsidian game without any of the things that I enjoy about Obsidian games (dialog and replayability mostly). Don't think I'll be in for any DLC. Can't see myself enjoying a moment more of that gameplay. I was pretty ready for the game to end by the time I got
to Canada
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
When you have essentially two people writing everything and all of that writing is worthwhile then yes i think the fact that this is 2-3 seasons worth of South Park is fair.
Don't forget the old picture with the Crab people. All we got in the game was tunnel where we didn't even fight them, just talk to one of them and add it as a friend.
Oh yeah, I know there are tons of stuff we can point to that were oddly missing from the game, I was just pointing to the big example that they probably can't add in as DLC unless they want to make it so that you don't control New Kid in the DLC.
The classes are just there to differenciate the class specific armor you get at certain parts in the game and the special attacks you have, I did think it was kind of lame, originally, that any class could equip anything but by the end, I realized it didn't matter because your special attacks really should be your bread and butter throughout the game anyway, as awesome as some of the weapons are, your PP moves nail in those status effects pretty good and usually to multiple opponents.
Trey Parker already said he is not going allow cut content to go in as dlc, he said he'll just use it for the show.
I doubt we will see anything I was just talking about. I bet the cut stuff he was referring to was the Black Friday trilogy. Maybe not the main PS4 vs. Xbone thing but I'm sure a lot of the set pieces they had fun with in the episode were ideas for that game at some point.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Man i fucking love this game <3
Mister Wilhelm
Member
I highly doubt just two people wrote every single line in this game. They probably wrote the majority of the major interactions and read and approved a lot of the filler.
I could be wrong about that, but even if I was I think 2-3 seasons is not a correct comparison because many hours of the game are spent battling, wandering, figuring out puzzles, etc. where there is no dialog, dialog that is reused, or little at all.
So price should have no factor? You think people don't take into consideration the extra $100 they have to spend to get the XBONE over the PS4?
You simply cannot take price out of the equation just because it's an experience/art/game whatever. Bottom line, it's a product people are paying for.
I don't think this game is better at the end of the day than other titles I've paid full price for day one on a current console, by the way. Even when you do disregard price, it's still short and will offer me less entertainment in the long run and what is does offer is only on par with those other games.
Yeah, I don't know if I'd call those the most obvious cuts.
For me, I think the strangest part was the way Randy + Mr. Slave just abruptly show up in Clyde's tower. It felt like that was suppose to happen somewhere else. Like we should have taken out Clyde and then had the showdown with the government.
Who knows though, they were making fun of how convoluted/stupid RPGs become in those final moments, so maybe that was intentional too.
For me, I think the strangest part was the way Randy + Mr. Slave just abruptly show up in Clyde's tower. It felt like that was suppose to happen somewhere else. Like we should have taken out Clyde and then had the showdown with the government.
Who knows though, they were making fun of how convoluted/stupid RPGs become in those final moments, so maybe that was intentional too.
Nose Master
Member
The
references already feel dated. They didn't really do anything with them either, just
Referencing something else without like, making a joke about it is sort of the laziest form of comedy.
Skyrim
"You're the Dovahkiin!"
I think it's more like kids taking "cool" terms they heard from videogames and just merging them in their own "game". I always did that all the time as a kid with my friends.
You'd have to be at the end of the game but that isn't really the case here.
I strongly dislike genre dogma.
Just more fuel to the fire that RPG is becoming a loaded term with too much dead weight. I'm still looking forward to several CRPG revival games (PE/Divinity,) but it's good to see games evolve. There's no reason for every game to be unnecessarily tied to tradition. Very happy with the length of the game. No filler.
I prefer a quality assessment. Let me be the judge of value.
*More on point because Metacritic sucks. Publishers use reviews to measure Quality and devalue developers.
84 :\
Just more fuel to the fire that RPG is becoming a loaded term with too much dead weight. I'm still looking forward to several CRPG revival games (PE/Divinity,) but it's good to see games evolve. There's no reason for every game to be unnecessarily tied to tradition. Very happy with the length of the game. No filler.
That just boils down to whether you think reviews measure quality or value.
I prefer a quality assessment. Let me be the judge of value.
*More on point because Metacritic sucks. Publishers use reviews to measure Quality and devalue developers.
84 :\
Piercedveil
Member
Finished the main quest last night along with a decent amount of sidequests. I spent ~14 hours playing. The game is extremely good. The little details are amazingly well done and the writing overall is great.
Not sure if spoiler, so to be safe:
Not sure if spoiler, so to be safe:
The Facebook system can be absolutely hilarious when someone posts something and certain people like it. That definitely got a laugh out of me more than once.
CrimsonCommie
Member
I never had a problem with your opinion of the game and I didn't say price shouldn't matter. I said it shouldn't effect a review score and it definitely shouldn't. A game rated 7 to me will be rated 7 no matter the cost. You are the one that said you docked a game points because of the price. Price should effect your purchasing decisions but it should never have an impact on a review. Should reviewers go back and give FF13 better scores now that it's cheaper? Should Chrono Trigger, SMRPG, Earthbound, etc have gotten horrible review scores because they were full priced short RPGs? If you didn't enjoy the game that's fine but the game being $30 cheaper isn't going to automatically make it better.
Beelzeboss
Member
That's one of the reasons I hope to see an expansion for Stick of Truth. Add in all the stuff we lost and maybe give us another class or party member.
So I went back to my manual save from 2 hours ago, played up to and through the
UFO
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
You make it sound like the funny is only in the cutscenes or select dialogue. From what ive seen everything.. combat, exploration, item descriptions, music, sound.. all of it is absolutely drenched in humor.
Finished it. It's the best licensed game in... forever. Obsidian did an amazing job, an impossible even. It does so great job of being an adaptation of South Park. It's basically an actual South Park >The Game<.
It's not perfect, of course. Combat could use some tweaking, by the end I were so ridiculously overpowered. Just apply bleed with a fast thrown weapon that jumps between enemies maybe use Plagues of Egypt to set up debuffs. Then I used Kyle with his special abilities and buffs. Boom. Everything was basically dead within 2 weapons. With my welee weapon I were doing 20-25k hits. The only enemies that survived the first round were bosses and even these (sans final boss) took less than a minute (
). It was quite fun, but abrupt and fell flat.
Steam shows it took me 14 hours, in reality probably more like 13 due to idling. I did almost everything there is, the entire main quest, all sidequests and most of collectables. Which really made me feel down and discouraged from finishing 100%
Still, amazing game, I've already recommended it to several of my friends. Fantastic game. Incredible. So true to the show, I can't believe they nailed it. It might not be the best game ever, but it's the perfect adaptation possible. Though I found some omissions weird (
). But all in all, a great experience and the best South Park story in years.
It's not perfect, of course. Combat could use some tweaking, by the end I were so ridiculously overpowered. Just apply bleed with a fast thrown weapon that jumps between enemies maybe use Plagues of Egypt to set up debuffs. Then I used Kyle with his special abilities and buffs. Boom. Everything was basically dead within 2 weapons. With my welee weapon I were doing 20-25k hits. The only enemies that survived the first round were bosses and even these (sans final boss) took less than a minute (
which made Chef very anti-climactic
Though, all in all, I never found fighting Nazis boring. Their soundbites were too hilarious.
Steam shows it took me 14 hours, in reality probably more like 13 due to idling. I did almost everything there is, the entire main quest, all sidequests and most of collectables. Which really made me feel down and discouraged from finishing 100%
because I missed exactly one missable Chinpokomon. Shit. I have 27 Chinpokomon, 114 friends and I believe most of equipment. Maybe I'll go back to try find missing friends, but that one single Chinpokomon on Alien Ship that I didn't notice, hell. So much for 100% completion.
Still, amazing game, I've already recommended it to several of my friends. Fantastic game. Incredible. So true to the show, I can't believe they nailed it. It might not be the best game ever, but it's the perfect adaptation possible. Though I found some omissions weird (
no Scott Tenorman? Where's Let's Fighting Love?
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
To do with 100% completion:
No matter what, you will be missing a friend as well, the Chinpokomon company will only friend you if you find all 30 of them
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
No, but
You can get your money back by beating the banker. You need the gnome dust ability, thought
ghostlyspice
Member
lol nah
Like in a battle? Or just hitting him?
This is probably the only game I have ever wanted DLC for.
Oh? I know what I'm doing when I get home from work, didn't even realize.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Like in a battle? Or just hitting him?
This is probably the only game I have ever wanted DLC for.
Battle if you hit him
Yeah
I looked at friendlist and it's there. Where hell. Maybe one day. Kinda stupid that there is a Chinpokomon there and that it doesn't appear anywhere else. Weak.
Weeeeaaaaaak.
Weeeeaaaaaak.
You know what's weak?
There are actually 121 friends in the game, not 120. You have to friend Clyde at the beginning of the game before choosing your class, after the tutorial battles and Cartman banishes him, he unfriends you which removes his number from your list but you have to trigger the flag of him being your friend to unlock the achievement for all friends
Like when Stan
(or was it Kyle?) hacked Cartman's FB account? Ha yeah that gave me a laugh.
That really sucks man. I never encountered any problems at that section playing the PS3 version which is widely believed to be the version with the most issues.
Have you encountered any issues on the PS3 version, apart from the ones already mentioned?
One, at the very beginning of the game during the tutorial battle sequences, during the training for counter attacks. Sometimes the game can get locked up after you deliver the counter attack blow when Cartman is supposed to give you a new instruction. Reloading the latest checkpoint fixed it.
That, coupled with the much publicized stuttering when checkpoints are saving are all that I've experienced. Certainly the least buggy experience from Obsidian that I've ever played.
cartoon_soldier
Member
What's the download size of this? Going to be getting my new desktop in next two weeks, going to be first game I get off Steam, but got shitty net speed in India so wondering
4.2 GB if I remember right?
It seems like there isn't anything gamebreaking present, which is good to know.
Not from my experience, but there have been reports of game breaking bugs like the one we were talking about earlier in this thread on the various platforms. It seems to be a very random issue.
As it turns out, the glitch was my fault. I deleted several video files, assuming that all of the 000* files were part of the logos that play every time the game launches. One of those files, 000_newday.bk2 is required for the next day to start properly.
Everything worked fine once I restored the non-intro files.
Aside from that glitch (which was my fault), the PC version has been very stable. I haven't noticed any problems.
uncleniccius
Member
On the topic of bugs.. on day two and I've seen one.
I was in the bit where Ike/the Kindergarten's hang out (the park by the basketball thing) and I climbed the ladder to the top of his pirate ship type thing... Kenny.. who was my buddy at the time climbed up too, and I was unable to move or do anything other than look at inventory.. luckily I was able to save and go back to a check point!
I was in the bit where Ike/the Kindergarten's hang out (the park by the basketball thing) and I climbed the ladder to the top of his pirate ship type thing... Kenny.. who was my buddy at the time climbed up too, and I was unable to move or do anything other than look at inventory.. luckily I was able to save and go back to a check point!
I'd assume switching buddy would have worked?
I don't know why but beat him on the first try. I played as a Jew, and the dreidel of doom or whatever it's called was very useful. Also speed potions are severely OP.
Why did you delete the movie files?
i died a few times to him too. I was a Fighter and I was taking a lot of damage from his guys. Managed to beat him after a few tries. Probably the toughest boss in the whole game, imo.
yea, there were only like two logos. no need to delete them.