True. I suppose we can't do much but wait for official word once the investigations are complete.
This whole thing will sure make an interesting documentary to watch a few months down the line, though.
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Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials
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True. I suppose we can't do much but wait for official word once the investigations are complete.
This whole thing will sure make an interesting documentary to watch a few months down the line, though.
BrassDragon
Member
This is not a big mystery is it? When it comes to obstruction of justice specifically, the Comey hearings / memos in combination with Trump's public statements would be enough to start digging for corroboration, right? They still have to turn evidence into proof but there seems to be enough there.
It's the collusion/conspiracy/money laundering charges that are murky from the outside looking in.
Imp the Dimp
Member
How come there is no thread about this on r/the_d?
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The Clinton impeachment and trial only lasted 2 months.
The times story ends with this juicy tidbit
https://nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/politics/mueller-trump-special-counsel-investigation.html
WaPo, NYT, and WSJ all came bearing gifts last night. As noted by the BBC's coverage: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40283036
I think Trump has a lot of dirty money tied up overseas, laundered through his businesses. Knowing the type of guy he is he wouldn't give too shits about laws or who he deals with.
It will get messy if they manage to follow the breadcrumbs. We'll know they are getting close when he starts panicking.
There are a few rage threads and oblique references. But they mostly ignore anything too negative until their King tells them what to think.
"Trump now has LEGAL STANDING to SHUT Special Counsel DOWN , They ILLEGALLY leaked investigation details"
naw naw naw naw I'm not listening.
It will get messy if they manage to follow the breadcrumbs. We'll know they are getting close when he starts panicking.
There are a few rage threads and oblique references. But they mostly ignore anything too negative until their King tells them what to think.
"Trump now has LEGAL STANDING to SHUT Special Counsel DOWN , They ILLEGALLY leaked investigation details"
naw naw naw naw I'm not listening.
Wait so are we playing chess or cards, I'm confused
benjipwns
Banned
Yeah but they're going to have to get enough of the Mueller investigation completed, then hold hearings and then move it to the Senate with who knows how many of them out campaigning for President. Plus the budget and everything else.
GOP had the advantage of lame duck and a non-election period to do all of that. Plus it was the start of the term.
Bedameister
Member
That's the best part of this imo. Get fucked Donnie
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Mueller is straight up baiting Trump.
He's a fan because they gave him lots of money when no one else would.
The Chosen One
Member
I agree with this.
Also if you look at Trump's past dealings, he's not above dealing with shady characters in order advance his financial agenda. Rachel Maddow a few months ago did some good segments on the Trump family's questionable business dealings in the middle east and Asia. One business partner actually had mob ties.
Trump may not involve himself with the nitty-gritty details, but he definitely green-lighted those deals. In some of the deals, it was either a complete lack of due diligence on multi-million dollar deals or flat out corruption.
Also, why was the Trump transition including Jared Kushner trying to establish super-secret back channels with the Russians? To the point of wanting to use Russian intelligence communication systems. That request from Kushner was with the full knowledge of Flynn an experienced intelligence official, so it can't be chalked up to naivety.
It's pretty clear on some level Michael Flynn was Trump's "Girl Friday". Considering how close Flynn and Trump were during the campaign, it's hard to imagine Flynn was completely freelancing without Trump's knowledge on all the meetings Flynn had with various Russian officials. We know Trump isn't a loyal guy but he keeps asking various intelligence officials to drop the Flynn investigation.
Both Flynn and Jeff Session became advisors to the Trump campaign roughly around the same time. Yet Trump was about to dump Jeff Sessions in recent weeks because he feels Sessions has brought him trouble with the special prosecutor. Michael Flynn in comparison has brought Trump a TON of trouble and basically set the entire thing in motion with the call to the Russian ambassador and all the other half-dozen disclosures of being a foreign agent and etc. Yet Trump supposedly still holds Michael Flynn in high regard and keeps relentlessly defending him. There was even talk of trying to get him back in the administration. Trump has practically thrown almost everyone under the bus who has given him bad press. Michael Flynn has given Trump a megaton of bad press yet Trump treats Flynn with kid gloves.
One thing I hope the Mueller investigation turns up is how intertwined are Trump and Flynn. The obstruction of justice inquiry that Trump faces is purely because Trump kept trying to put the brakes on the Flynn investigation.
E-Cat
Member
Yeah. The thing originated completely by accident in another thread, prior to the news!
I used the original comic as the OP, then asked if someone could photoshop orange hair on him. Tence made the hair and Permanently A came up with Mueller, separately from each other. I merely combined the two:
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Crazy how it turned out even more apt than anyone could've predicted.
I sometimes wonder what the ripple effects of an impeachment would be - didn't Clinton's approval ratings climb quite dramatically after he was impeached? It could well be a double-edged sword; maybe he's better as a lame duck with a Dem house until he gets voted out in 2020. Wouldn't that give people a reason to rally behind him, he's already doing a swell job of killing his own base.
I guess it all depends on how much better Pence would really be.
I guess it all depends on how much better Pence would really be.
Nice.
They made up a phony collusion with the Russians story, found zero proof, so now they go for obstruction of justice on the phony story. Nice
Donald J. Trump‏ (@realDonaldTrump) June 15, 2017
Donald J. Trump‏ (@realDonaldTrump) June 15, 2017
Chuckie
Member
Lol. That thing is getting a lot of mileage.
Darryl M R
Member
Easy D
I was really, really wondering there for a second if this was a real tweet or not. Suffice to say...it was. God damn america.
The "nice" is the kind of thing I'd say as a teenager when I was annoyed with someone.
A quick reminder that this man is 71 and the leader of the free world
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Keep supplying the rope, Donnie, you piece of shit.
He thinks the investigation into Russian collusion is over. Amazing.
Imp the Dimp
Member
I always gotta check if Trump tweets posted on here are real
His lawyers must be on stress medication. They just can't stop him from tweeting.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
'Nice'. What a douchebag.
Dead Prince
Banned
He probably wrote nice to finish off the rest of the tweet soon
Because when has he made a single tweet before lol
You'll get prezz pence then. A man that wants to put people like me in camps and cure and/or kill me. Whatever he feels gets his ass closer to the gay rainbow space hippie, Jeebus.
It always begins when something is brought up. So not those EXACT words but the sentiment that a new piece of news will be instrumental in getting him removed from office. i will respectfully disagree that wanting to see actual consequences is defeatist bs
E-Cat
Member
Good boy, Donny, sticking to the official talking points memo:
https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/875166972614516737
Chained Prometheus
Member
Wooooooooow.
I can only imagine the amount of frustration that his lawyers are feeling over his inability to stop tweeting.
Few more weeks of this and his lawyers are put to suicide watch.
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In other news, we should expect Rosenstein to recuse himself soon from overseeing Mueller.
BrassDragon
Member
'They' being the combined CIA, NSA, DHS and FBI on top of conclusions shared by British and Dutch security services.
All made up. Just to hurt him.
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Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Satan works in mysterious ways.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Before he got fired. That changed things. But obviously this is just Mueller getting word out there after Trump tested the waters of the implications of firing Mueller. By stating outright that Trump is being investigated Mueller makes it much harder for Trump to fire him, because he'd instantly look guilty.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Somebody leaked the talking points? That's hilarious.
Given how scummy and seemingly bad his personal lawyer is, I think we can switch from suicide watch to "Hey, flip on Trump and you can escape jail!"
Trump seems to think that if he controls the narrative he controls reality.
Like, if he is guilty and found to be such, it won't matter what his followers think / believe (unless he is banking on mass riots if he is impeached etc...)
I am still convinced he is looking for the right time to quit, the whole point was that he and Bannon were going to use the (unsuccessful they assumed) run at the WH as a platform to launch a TV channel.
E-Cat
Member
The hero we need.
Absolutely. Nothing takes the wind out of someone's sails like telling the world what they will say before they say it.
They just brought financial and organized crime experts into the investigation, why would you think that?
FF Seraphim
Member
Well I bet this throws a wrench in Trump wanting to fire Mueller now. Hopefully this helps being down the GOP during the mid-term elections.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875321478849363968
He just keeps on digging / setting up that rope. Attacking IC and Mueller directly, not smart man.
UnknownSpirit
Member
Sometimes I wish I could live in his world. Just to see what it's like to deny everything because you don't like it.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875321478849363968
He just keeps on digging / setting up that rope. Attacking IC and Mueller directly, not smart man.
It's called Justice, Donnie.