Spider-Man 3 is underrated

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1. SM2
2. SM1
3. ASM
4. SM3

Also, Tobey captures Peter way better than Garfield does. He just seems way nerdier and more awkward, which is what Peter Parker was supposed to be, not some nerd who could almost double as a model and acts cocky when out of costume.

As for Spidey 3, it's pretty bad, but I think the Harry/Peter scenes are still enjoyable, and the emo Peter scenes still make me laugh just because of how bad they are.
 
The biggest problem with SM3 is that the tone is all over the place. It goes too far in certain directions, and the transitions are awkward.

For example, the entire theater laughed when Peter looked in the mirror and brushed his hair down onto his forehead. It was just so bizarre and unexpected.

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Haloid1177 said:
1. SM2
2. SM1
3. ASM
4. SM3

Also, Tobey captures Peter way better than Garfield does. He just seems way nerdier and more awkward, which is what Peter Parker was supposed to be, not some nerd who could almost double as a model and acts cocky when out of costume.

As for Spidey 3, it's pretty bad, but I think the Harry/Peter scenes are still enjoyable, and the emo Peter scenes still make me laugh just because of how bad they are.
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Spidey never struck me as socially inept. He seemed more like a caricature in Raimi's movies. Like he would fit right in with Sheldon in the Big Bang Theory.

Also, Parker is handsome. He is the male equivalent of the cute female nerd taking of the glasses and shaking out her hair.
 
ItIsOkBro said:
The Uncle Ben killer retcon was a kind of stupid...but hey, faced with his Uncle's real killer, what does Spider-Man do? He forgives him, such character development!
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I hated the retcon of this at first, but I understood why once the movie ended. How in the world could Peter have expected Harry to forgive him for "killing his Dad" if he couldn't forgive the man that "killed" his Dad too? They were both accidental deaths in situations beyond Flint and Peter's control.

I really like this movie a lot too and it makes me sad that it is universally shat upon. The ending with Peter forgiving Sandman and him just floating off for Peter to maybe face another day had way more impact than him just killing the next villain of the day. And I'm glad to see people "get" Emo Peter (who is anything but Emo). Him dancing is one of the highlights.
 
I hate all 3 of these movies. I've always felt like 3 at least bothered to feel a little more like Spider Man (with him being a little funny) but mostly that people overstate how bad it is, because in reality superhero movies just became more common and there was more to compare them too.

Obviously, I am a minority in this and I will accept your hate knowing that I am right.
 
Crazy! Apparently Spider-Man 3 was supposed to feature the original symbiote outfits, but the only reason it was turned down was because the producers thought "latex look makes him look like he's in a porno." What a shame.

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phileep said:
I hated the retcon of this at first, but I understood why once the movie ended. How in the world could Peter have expected Harry to forgive him for "killing his Dad" if he couldn't forgive the man that "killed" his Dad too? They were both accidental deaths in situations beyond Flint and Peter's control.

I really like this movie a lot too and it makes me sad that it is universally shat upon. The ending with Peter forgiving Sandman and him just floating off for Peter to maybe face another day had way more impact than him just killing the next villain of the day. And I'm glad to see people "get" Emo Peter (who is anything but Emo). Him dancing is one of the highlights.
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I also really like the touch of Norman dying by his glider blades trying to kill Peter, where Harry dies by his own glider blades to protect Peter. It's a cool full circle thingy.

I think another poster said something about S-M2 "focusing on MJ at the end of the movie," but I thought that was fucking great. Movie starts with him staring at her on a billboard while he's trying to make it to his pizza delivery job. The movie ends almost opposite of that. It's like it's own little full circle.
 
It was pretty bad, but it was still a Raimi film with great actors so it automatically tops 99% of other superhero movies.
 
Haloid1177 said:
1. SM2
2. SM1
3. ASM
4. SM3

Also, Tobey captures Peter way better than Garfield does. He just seems way nerdier and more awkward, which is what Peter Parker was supposed to be, not some nerd who could almost double as a model and acts cocky when out of costume.

As for Spidey 3, it's pretty bad, but I think the Harry/Peter scenes are still enjoyable, and the emo Peter scenes still make me laugh just because of how bad they are.
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I think I agree with all of this.

It baffles me how Sony can reboot and recast the franchise and still make something that turns out significantly worse than SM3. Swat Lizards? No thanks.

I always felt that Raimi's trilogy wasnt necessarily "right" either, but it did have a certain charm to it all, heart. I think they were all pretty decent on all fronts. Spider-Man 2 is definitely the best film though so far.
 
I actually really enjoyed SM3, to be honest. I hated them shoehorning Venom into it, but I enjoyed the rest of it for what it was. I think what really hurts it is that it was the follow-up to the superlative Spider-Man 2. It was impossible to match that one, in my opinion.
 
Figboy79 said:
I actually really enjoyed SM3, to be honest. I hated them shoehorning Venom into it, but I enjoyed the rest of it for what it was. I think what really hurts it is that it was the follow-up to the superlative Spider-Man 2. It was impossible to match that one, in my opinion.
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SM3 could've surpassed SM2 if Raimi actually tried.
 
brandonh83 said:
I like both takes. They're just different to me. I think the first two Raimi films and ASM are incredible. SM3 is the only one that I didn't like.
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My man. While I think TASM fell short of incredible, I liked what it tried to do with the character.. even if a lot of it came out to be a somewhat unfocused scrambled film (they need better writers, and Webb NEEDS FOCUS). Raimi's films had a more focused direction. I like that the fact that it was made to keep the Spider-Man rights in Sony's hands is held against it, which was exactly what Raimi's Spider-Man 4 would've been. And quite frankly, after that shit ending in SM3, I don't think I would've wanted another Raimi film. It tied that knot up nicely, and not to mention, Maguire ran his course and was awful in that movie. Straight up embarrassment to the franchise.
 
Haloid1177 said:
1. SM2
2. SM1
3. ASM
4. SM3

Also, Tobey captures Peter way better than Garfield does. He just seems way nerdier and more awkward, which is what Peter Parker was supposed to be, not some nerd who could almost double as a model and acts cocky when out of costume.

As for Spidey 3, it's pretty bad, but I think the Harry/Peter scenes are still enjoyable, and the emo Peter scenes still make me laugh just because of how bad they are.
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But that's what Peter is. He is an attractive guy, landing a lot of women over the years in all his main series. He's like a wish fulfillment: the nerdy guy who all the women secretly like, and actually gets quite a few of them, and they're also all very attractive.

And I don't mean they look good like they were drawn well, but like a feature of their character, all of them, is that they're good looking. The weird, awkward blubbering Maguire Parker was not an accurate portrayal of Peter (also, it wasn't fun to watch).

Garfield, while still not perfect, I felt had a lot more personality and did a great job.
 
Personally I didn't think it was anywhere as near as bad as many people made it out to be. Even then though I liked the trilogy alogether. All 3 movies are far better than the crap that TASM was.
 
Zeyphersan said:
But that's what Peter is. He is an attractive guy, landing a lot of women over the years in all his main series. He's like a wish fulfillment: the nerdy guy who all the women secretly like, and actually gets quite a few of them, and they're also all very attractive.

And I don't mean they look good like they were drawn well, but like a feature of their character, all of them, is that they're good looking. The weird, awkward blubbering Maguire Parker was not an accurate portrayal of Peter (also, it wasn't fun to watch).

Garfield, while still not perfect, I felt had a lot more personality and did a great job.
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There are some people that think Toby's Peter is more accurate. It's probably a matter of different source material they were exposed to.
 
SpinDasher said:
My man. While I think TASM fell short of incredible, I liked what it tried to do with the character.. even if a lot of it came out to be a somewhat unfocused scrambled film (they need better writers, and Webb NEEDS FOCUS). Raimi's films had a more focused direction. I like that the fact that it was made to keep the Spider-Man rights in Sony's hands is held against it, which was exactly what Raimi's Spider-Man 4 would've been. And quite frankly, after that shit ending in SM3, I don't think I would've wanted another Raimi film. It tied that knot up nicely, and not to mention, Maguire ran his course and was awful in that movie. Straight up embarrassment to the franchise.
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Well it sounds like we're mostly on the same page. I think it's goofy when people bring studio politics into the debate concerning the actual quality of the movie.
 
I agree that the movie isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It's average, not terrible.

But the one of the most underrated super-heroe movies has to be First Class. I barely see people mentioned it but it's one of the best movies in the genre. Doesn't get enough love.
 
I liked Spider-Man 3 when I saw it at midnight and every time after. It had some strange moments but overall I really enjoyed it. I'd rank it above ASM and with Marvel movies in general, above most of the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies.
 
All 3 Ramni movies had goofy bullshit in them that made me roll my eyes as I watched them.

It was tolerable in 1 & 2, because the action and some of the more serious scenes made up for it. In 3 they went over the limit of what was acceptable and the whole movie suffered as a result.

I really liked ASM, because I felt they were trying to be faithful to the source material at least. Garfield Spider-man was great, Garfield Peter Parker could use some work. I enjoyed everything else about the movie for the most part.
 
Figboy79 said:
I actually really enjoyed SM3, to be honest. I hated them shoehorning Venom into it, but I enjoyed the rest of it for what it was. I think what really hurts it is that it was the follow-up to the superlative Spider-Man 2. It was impossible to match that one, in my opinion.
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It's like the Uncharted 3 after Uncharted 2 tbh.
 
I don't agree that it's underrated, but I do think what people often consider the worst part of the movie, Douche Peter, is actually the only part of the whole thing that has any life to it.
 
"The internet" made it sound like ASM was a worse abomination than SM3 but I enjoyed it much more when I actually watched it myself. The Lizard looked trashy as hell but Garfield was a better Peter, Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy was better than Dunst's MJ and practically every scene featuring Spider-Man was immensely more enjoyable than most of the Raimi trilogy, especially the fight in the school. Yes, it lacks the focus of the first two Raimi films but it's way better than SM3 and at least as good as the first one.
 
I agree.

Besides the emo peter scenes, I enjoyed it.

The score was great, especially when harry shows up to save peter near the end when it just kicks in

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That moment where harry and peter reconnect is probably my favourite moment in the whole trilogy.


Also, The 2 fights with harry/peter are also fantastic
Fight 1
Fight 2

And it also spawned one of the best gifs on the interwebs.
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Come to think of it....James Franco/Harry saved Spiderman 3 from being a shit movie.
Though, he was one of my favourite things about the trilogy
 
SpinDasher said:
What makes it worse than SM3 exactly?

EDIT: Actually don't answer that.
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lol

Well I would never claim it was worse than SM3. But that's not exactly something to be proud of. Being the best of the SM movies is like being the smartest cast member on Jersey Shore.
 
A lot of people think that sm3 is better than asm? You guys must have a special place for the actors of the original trilogy or something if you think sm3 isn't bad.
 
I remember seeing this at midnight lunch. Still the most packed theater I had been in. Up there with Avengers and Dark knight. Anyways people were wearing Spider man costumes there was a buzz in the air especially with venom being in the movie. After that movie was over there was a dead silence and it was like all the air was let out of the room. I will never forget that experience.
 
brandonh83 said:
Oh yes, it's the good kind of bad that only ruined the first set of movies and took a massive fucking crap on its brilliant predecessor.

No harm done.
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If you say so, man. Even though Spider-Man 3 stumbles as a whole where it's predecessors succeeded, there's still a lot to like in the film.
 
I think Spider-Man 3 is probably underrated in the sense that it's not this soul-destroying thing, or whatever the fuck some people make it out to be.

But it's still a bad movie and a weak conclusion to the two films of build-up that preceded it.
 
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