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Splatoon |OT4| You're a detriment to your squad

Anyone got an idea on what I should do with this build? I leveled my 4th piece of triple equipment today (a duplicate Ink Recovery/Ink Saver Sub) and have discovered that 3 of my 4 triples are all in Ink Saver Sub.

I feel like that is the Splatoon gods (or maybe just Spyke) telling me I need to minmax my subweapons.

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(That hat, though.)

So one idea is Point Sensors. I can throw 3 of them pretty comfortably while still having a manageable amount of shooting ink left over. Although do you really need to ever throw 3 Point Sensors? It's unfortunately not quite enough to Double Suction Bomb... Juuuuust barely short. It can be done with a quick tap into the ink, however. Splash Walls get it down to about half a tank and re-fills fairly quickly after the penalty. 2 Disruptors can be thrown very comfortably, with 5 or 6 Tri-Sloshes left over. 5 Burst Bombs can be thrown, but that'll probably go down to 3 soon.

My first instinct is that it could be a good Forge build? Maybe vanilla Nozzlenose? Splash Wall weapons perhaps? Is there any real functional reason to run 9 Ink Saver Subs and ignore everything else?
What matters most is that you try this build with a loadout that you already like and see if there's a style that clicks with you. There are very few loadouts in the game that don't want to be using their sub weapons, so your build will be useful no matter what.

With that said, I would recommend a build that makes use of Splat Bombs, Suction Bombs or Burst Bombs for that build you're showing. Personally I might try Splattershot Jr or Carbon Roller, but that's just my personal preference. I don't think being able to throw more Point Sensors or more Disruptors is necessarily that helpful, but being able to reduce the cost of throwing individual sub weapons is always good.
 

J@hranimo

Banned
Anyone got an idea on what I should do with this build? I leveled my 4th piece of triple equipment today (a duplicate Ink Recovery/Ink Saver Sub) and have discovered that 3 of my 4 triples are all in Ink Saver Sub.

I feel like that is the Splatoon gods (or maybe just Spyke) telling me I need to minmax my subweapons.

9Kwux4R.png

(That hat, though.)

So one idea is Point Sensors. I can throw 3 of them pretty comfortably while still having a manageable amount of shooting ink left over. Although do you really need to ever throw 3 Point Sensors? It's unfortunately not quite enough to Double Suction Bomb... Juuuuust barely short. It can be done with a quick tap into the ink, however. Splash Walls get it down to about half a tank and re-fills fairly quickly after the penalty. 2 Disruptors can be thrown very comfortably, with 5 or 6 Tri-Sloshes left over. 5 Burst Bombs can be thrown, but that'll probably go down to 3 soon.

My first instinct is that it could be a good Forge build? Maybe vanilla Nozzlenose? Splash Wall weapons perhaps? Is there any real functional reason to run 9 Ink Saver Subs and ignore everything else?

Those shoes tho :O

Eh spamming point sensors aren't really worth trying out in my opinion. All you'd really need is one to know where at least one person is at a given time. Looking at that build though I think this screams like 52 Gal Deco or something else with seekers. Also you could try that with the vanilla SS Pro since it's super ink hungry for the main gun anyway.

Ink saver sub is always helpful for Splash Walls, although most of those splash wall weapons usually have the ttk to take out people with little to no effort.
 

Geg

Member
So I decided to finally make the attempt for S+ and started playing solo ranked again for the first time since making S rank back in October.

Solo rainmaker was a mistake
 

ryechu

Member
I still think many are blowing the burst bomb changes out of proportion.

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Although, the last 3 buffs are really exciting. For people who actually use their burst bombs as proper bombs will be rewarded. Also for the only burst bomb rush weapon as of this post, the splattershot, the bomb rush will be fantastic for reclaiming mid and turf in general now. With the ink radius being much larger it will be good.

With 18 ink saver sub (six sub slots), you will be able to chuck 3 burst bombs. Before, when going for long range burst bomb snipes, you'd either get the kill, or commonly hit two 35 dmg shots, one 20, and the fourth would miss completely. Now with less knockback, and 200% ink spread, I feel like hitting a mid-dmg 35, will have them stuck within a fair amount of ink. With 3 of the new burst bombs + dmg up, 1 sweet spot should now be a guaranteed chain into a mid-dmg given that after a sweet spot, they will be in the center of a much bigger ink circle, coupled with the increased aoe range for the mid-dmg; 3 mid-dmgs will be much easier to chain; AND 2 mid-dmgs + a sourspot will now kill with minimal dmg up (sourspot was buffed from 20->25 dmg).

All sorts of long range chains will be easier to hit with the reduced knockback and increased ink radius. All this with just a 18 power investment into saver sub.

I'm going to be experimenting with an 18 saver sub, 10 dmg up, 29 bomb dist up build for sure.
 

ryechu

Member
So basically no more finishers, but traps are a potentially viable thing... Hmm.

you can still finish with burst bombs. just not two in a row. Besides, if its the same situation as that video you could full charge the second person who is falling instead of using a burst bomb. Since burst bombs cost more ink than a full charged shot now...
 

Jims

Member
Thanks to everyone who gave suggestions for what to do with Ink Saver Sub. I think testing the setup with Burst Bombs will be interesting after the patch. Could be a decent Slosher build with a Damage Main.

What matters most is that you try this build with a loadout that you already like and see if there's a style that clicks with you. There are very few loadouts in the game that don't want to be using their sub weapons, so your build will be useful no matter what.

With that said, I would recommend a build that makes use of Splat Bombs, Suction Bombs or Burst Bombs for that build you're showing. Personally I might try Splattershot Jr or Carbon Roller, but that's just my personal preference. I don't think being able to throw more Point Sensors or more Disruptors is necessarily that helpful, but being able to reduce the cost of throwing individual sub weapons is always good.

I think you're right about Point Sensors... The Forge experiment went horribly. I think I kinda hate Point Sensors without any Bomb Range Up. Tri-slosher went really well with the Disruptor, so maybe swapping out one of them for a Swim Speed could be good. I feel kind of similarly about how Tentatek and Splash played. It feels like this set could be viable, just with one clothing swapped for something else. 18 points of Sub Saver is probably enough for most subweapons.

Splash Walls were great, though. I really want to play some Slosher Deco with this after the patch.

Those shoes tho :O

I love those Trail Boots so much. The leveled up that way without re-rolling, and they're not even Firefin. The sheer improbability of that means I have to use 'em, right?
 

SM239

Member
After 7 months of not touching solo after getting S+ I finally decided to just go for S+99.
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Got an insane 21+ game undefeated win streak the other day that got me to S+97. I lost the last game to S+99 in overtime after a teammate went AFK on spawn. Dropped to S+92. Finished the run today after winning 2 games in the TC rotation right before the mode rotated out. Then won 2 games in the current SZ rotation.

Now to never touch solo ranked ever again.
 

ryechu

Member
After 7 months of not touching solo after getting S+ I finally decided to just go for S+99.
WVW69jGOJasF8OvqBt

Got an insane 21+ game undefeated win streak the other day that got me to S+97. I lost the last game to S+99 in overtime after a teammate went AFK on spawn. Dropped to S+92. Finished the run today after winning 2 games in the TC rotation right before the mode rotated out. Then won 2 games in the current SZ rotation.

Now to never touch solo ranked ever again.

you should now preface all of your opinions and comments with "As an S+99 player,..."
 

abd

Member
After 7 months of not touching solo after getting S+ I finally decided to just go for S+99.
WVW69jGOJasF8OvqBt

Got an insane 21+ game undefeated win streak the other day that got me to S+97. I lost the last game to S+99 in overtime after a teammate went AFK on spawn. Dropped to S+92. Finished the run today after winning 2 games in the TC rotation right before the mode rotated out. Then won 2 games in the current SZ rotation.

Now to never touch solo ranked ever again.

Congrats.
 
After 7 months of not touching solo after getting S+ I finally decided to just go for S+99.
WVW69jGOJasF8OvqBt

Got an insane 21+ game undefeated win streak the other day that got me to S+97. I lost the last game to S+99 in overtime after a teammate went AFK on spawn. Dropped to S+92. Finished the run today after winning 2 games in the TC rotation right before the mode rotated out. Then won 2 games in the current SZ rotation.

Now to never touch solo ranked ever again.

Dat understanding of the game tho. Then again, I think S+ lobbies are tons more fun than S lobbies. People actually have at least a faint idea about what to do IME. I really should try ranked again to get to S+, but I want to earn it with a Charger. =/

Congrats. Win streaks are great. =D
 

ss-hikaru

Member
I had a wish-I-had-capture-card moment last night on Blackbelly Skatepark turf with the custom hydra. Two of the enemy decided they didn't like me and both sent their inkstrikes after me. With nowhere to run I popped my bubble and got tossed around like I was in a pinball machine LOL straight into my friend who was coming up on the left who gave me a thanks! for passing the bubble on :p
 

J@hranimo

Banned
I love those Trail Boots so much. The leveled up that way without re-rolling, and they're not even Firefin. The sheer improbability of that means I have to use 'em, right?

Ah gotta love the unnatural level up triples on gear! I understand too, rock those boots man.

After 7 months of not touching solo after getting S+ I finally decided to just go for S+99.
WVW69jGOJasF8OvqBt

Got an insane 21+ game undefeated win streak the other day that got me to S+97. I lost the last game to S+99 in overtime after a teammate went AFK on spawn. Dropped to S+92. Finished the run today after winning 2 games in the TC rotation right before the mode rotated out. Then won 2 games in the current SZ rotation.

Now to never touch solo ranked ever again.

The Mink Zini himself. Not surprised in the slightest. Congrats.

I had a wish-I-had-capture-card moment last night on Blackbelly Skatepark turf with the custom hydra. Two of the enemy decided they didn't like me and both sent their inkstrikes after me. With nowhere to run I popped my bubble and got tossed around like I was in a pinball machine LOL straight into my friend who was coming up on the left who gave me a thanks! for passing the bubble on :p

That's awesome. I've been messing around with the Custom Hydra more recently myself, especially in Zones. The 3HKO buff coming Tuesday will be so good.
 
After 7 months of not touching solo after getting S+ I finally decided to just go for S+99.
WVW69jGOJasF8OvqBt

Got an insane 21+ game undefeated win streak the other day that got me to S+97. I lost the last game to S+99 in overtime after a teammate went AFK on spawn. Dropped to S+92. Finished the run today after winning 2 games in the TC rotation right before the mode rotated out. Then won 2 games in the current SZ rotation.

Now to never touch solo ranked ever again.

What even?
 

ffdgh

Member
After 7 months of not touching solo after getting S+ I finally decided to just go for S+99.
WVW69jGOJasF8OvqBt

Got an insane 21+ game undefeated win streak the other day that got me to S+97. I lost the last game to S+99 in overtime after a teammate went AFK on spawn. Dropped to S+92. Finished the run today after winning 2 games in the TC rotation right before the mode rotated out. Then won 2 games in the current SZ rotation.

Now to never touch solo ranked ever again.

I....uhh....errrm....Congratz?
 
So thanks to streaming and people recommending I stream Splatoon, I guess I play this regularly now. >_>*

So hi guys.

I guess I'm a Splatoon streamer now.

I guess I'm a bit better at this game than I thought. I bought it at launch, got to about level 11, then due to retarded crap lost my HDD that the save was on and didn't feel like pushing through Turf War again (UGGGGGGH turf war). Some people recommended that I play Splatoon on Twitch, so I did so, hit level 10 again and started playing Ranked, and.... wow this is fun! So far I'm beelining my way to A rank, since people in C suck ass, and B rank so far, while challenging, I'm still winning 90% of my matches in. So I'm probably going to stick with this for a good while
Until I get mowed down by A and S ranks
.
 

J@hranimo

Banned
So thanks to streaming and people recommending I stream Splatoon, I guess I play this regularly now. >_>*

So hi guys.

I guess I'm a Splatoon streamer now.

I guess I'm a bit better at this game than I thought. I bought it at launch, got to about level 11, then due to retarded crap lost my HDD that the save was on and didn't feel like pushing through Turf War again (UGGGGGGH turf war). Some people recommended that I play Splatoon on Twitch, so I did so, hit level 10 again and started playing Ranked, and.... wow this is fun! So far I'm beelining my way to A rank, since people in C suck ass, and B rank so far, while challenging, I'm still winning 90% of my matches in. So I'm probably going to stick with this for a good while
Until I get mowed down by A and S ranks
.

Welcome...back! What weapon(s) do you play?
 
Welcome...back! What weapon(s) do you play?

I use the neo splashomatic or whatever. The one that's accurate and rapid fire/close range. I like to hop on people's nuts, and I find it's great for laying down ink while I hop in and out to approach. Dunno if that will work in higher ranks though haha.
 

J@hranimo

Banned
I use the neo splashomatic or whatever. The one that's accurate and rapid fire/close range. I like to hop on people's nuts, and I find it's great for laying down ink while I hop in and out to approach. Dunno if that will work in higher ranks though haha.

You can make most weapons work in higher ranks, but it will just require more effort compared to other weapons. Good luck on the climb!
 

Blues1990

Member
I feel so defeated. I was this close to leveling up to S- Rank, but I got my ass spanked, match after match. ;_;


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I don't have enough middle fingers to stress out how angry I am right now.
 
*slow clap*

I thank you for correcting me, but you aren't exactly helping.

Sorry, man. I thought maybe it would be nice to know that everyone that's in S isn't as far above you as you might feel like right now, because it's actually only one rank above, not two.

Not that people don't tend to waffle between at least two ranks anyway.

Edit: I just realized that calling A+ "S-" is probably a joke that I completely missed.
 

Blues1990

Member
Sorry, man. I thought maybe it would be nice to know that everyone that's in S isn't as far above you as you might feel like right now, because it's actually only one rank above, not two.

Not that people don't tend to waffle between at least two ranks anyway.

Edit: I just realized that calling A+ "S-" is probably a joke that I completely missed.

No, I appreciate you correcting me. But I'm literally fuming right now, especially since I have no problems before, but I'm just getting butt fucked by every last Japanese player that I come across.
 

Nico_D

Member
No, I appreciate you correcting me. But I'm literally fuming right now, especially since I have no problems before, but I'm just getting butt fucked by every last Japanese player that I come across.

Yeah well that's Splatoon. I have my alt account which I have gotten four times to S already but now it seems I'm permanently stuck in A for those same reasons. When you feel frustrated enough, get in squads.
 

Blues1990

Member
Yeah well that's Splatoon. I have my alt account which I have gotten four times to S already but now it seems I'm permanently stuck in A for those same reasons. When you feel frustrated enough, get in squads.

I would do that, but I don't know enough people who play the game that would join me. I tried going to the Splatoon Reddit, but I only got one reply and that person never came.
 

Kito

Member
Can any ttek main see themself using the vanilla mini after the patch? Given the CB nerf I think we may just see the boring option and tteks replace that with one special saver. There are no Krak-on/Rockenberg hats and tops with SS, except for this unfresh 2-stripe cap.

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J@hranimo

Banned
I don't think there will be a sweeping change to vanilla mini splat. It's a different playstyle compared to ttek/octoshot and takes a bit longer to scale vertical places. I think wearing that hat will happen.
or just even more def up and quick respawn

I think the new mini splatling will probably get burst bomb rush. Seems fitting and is the only thing splatlings don't have. A bomb rush.

Oh yeah, they're named the Bamboozler 14 Mk III and Soda Slosher respectively.
 

Kito

Member
For tteks that play defensively i.e. just camp a spot with bombs until they have inkzooka, it plays fairly similar, but I agree mini is weak on maps with verticality.

I wouldn't be surprised to see burst bomb / bomb rush for the new mini, it copied ttek so splattershot could be next.
 

Moondrop

Banned
I don't see this slosher as an improvement over the deco. I guess this kit is about hanging back at range rather than bringing the defense with you. Not my style.

C'mon, purple-gold bubble dynamo...
 

J@hranimo

Banned
I don't see this slosher as an improvement over the deco. I guess this kit is about hanging back at range rather than bringing the defense with you. Not my style.

C'mon, purple-gold bubble dynamo...

Bubbler Dynamo is probably happening, much to my dismay but...expecting the worst!
 

Kito

Member
As for the new pink gold dynamo, I'll take beakons and bubbler.

There's already a roller with beakons but it's my dream sub for dynamo in RM. It's difficult to chase the fish with dynamo, and the upcoming swim speed nerf doesn't help either.

Oh yeah, they're named the Bamboozler 14 Mk III and Soda Slosher respectively.

Interestingly, the false leak, whilst was completely off, did have a blaster in Vol.2 branded Soda Pop.
 
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