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[firehawk12]

You've run out of things to defend now that KnT stopped airing.

Yep, and it feels goooood.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

no but your opinion is stuck in nostalgia mode perhaps

That hardly needs to be the case. Card Captor Sakura is a legitimately great and well written shown with some really well rounded characters. Madoka is darker than CCS, but that alone doesn't make it better.

I love both shows, but CCS remains the superior show in my mind. It advanced the genre in a number of ways, and remains the show to beat in terms of balancing magical girl stories with more typical romance and genuine character drama that feels believable and realistic.

 

[zeroshiki]

no but your opinion is stuck in nostalgia mode perhaps

you have got to be trolling

Uh-huh.

And its not nostalgia. Cardcaptor Sakura is so far above Madoka that I'm not even sure why we're having this conversation. Everyone's so gung-ho about Madoka breaking tropes but CCS was groundbreaking in its own right. You don't really need to go all grimdark to tell a compelling story, you know.

 

[Uchip]

Uh-huh.

And its not nostalgia. Cardcaptor Sakura is so far above Madoka that I'm not even sure why we're having this conversation. Everyone's so gung-ho about Madoka breaking tropes but CCS was groundbreaking in its own right. You don't really need to go all grimdark to tell a compelling story, you know.

its hardly grimdark
its just got a thick atmosphere (mostly due to the music and background choices)
have you even seen sakura lately? its like the definition of silly uguu animu with over the top transformations and underage romance.
I liked it when it first aired, but how long ago was that?

 

[InfiniteNine]

its hardly grimdark
its just got a thick atmosphere (mostly due to the music and background choices)
have you even seen sakura lately? its like the definition of silly uguu animu with over the top transformations and underage romance.
I liked it when it first aired, but how long ago was that?

What the fuck.

 

[Dresden]

scat dance was pretty good. Will keep watching.

Yep, and it feels goooood.

Rest up, because K-ON: College Edition will need some staunch white-knighting.

 

[Geneijin]

its hardly grimdark
its just got a thick atmosphere (mostly due to the music and background choices)
have you even seen sakura lately? its like the definition of silly uguu animu with over the top transformations and underage romance.
I liked it when it first aired, but how long ago was that?

Like seriously?

 

[Uchip]

scat dance was pretty good. Will keep watching.


Rest up, because K-ON: College Edition will need some staunch white-knighting.

you know i might actually watch k-on if it werent a lesbian only club

 

[Infinite Justice]

scat dance was pretty good. Will keep watching.


Rest up, because K-ON: College Edition will need some staunch white-knighting.

i think doomed1 will have that covered LOL

 

[firehawk12]

Rest up, because K-ON: College Edition will need some staunch white-knighting.

I'm against it on principal! Raaaaaage!

 

[zeroshiki]

its hardly grimdark
its just got a thick atmosphere (mostly due to the music and background choices)
have you even seen sakura lately? its like the definition of silly uguu animu with over the top transformations and underage romance.
I liked it when it first aired, but how long ago was that?

did you ever watch CCS? There was no transformation sequence.

I'm not sure how age of the work is relevant here. RK is better than most action shows out there and its 10+ years old.

 

[Geneijin]

A recency effect bias can be as strong as a nostalgia bias.

I'm against it on principal! Raaaaaage!

Save it for when the movie appears. If it becomes overtly moe as Season 1, then a cause for rage is necessary.

 

[hellclerk]

Comparing it to Twilight? Now you're just trolling. Like I said, trying to discuss this with you is a waste of time.

Except that I'm not comparing Madoka to Twilight. Madoka at least has redeeming features. What I'm trying to say is that you're welcome to enjoy it, but there are weaknesses in the plot and writing, at least according to my understanding of literature which I have expressed several times now. Is this unreasonable?

Spoiler

I'm going to sleep now, the page can LIVE

 

[Haly]

Having rewatched CCS a few months ago (after about 12 years) I can accurately that say you're complete off your rocker.

Yes it contains a lot of stuff that would, today, be considered moe pandering. The difference is back then it was a natural result of how the characters were written and developed, not because they were trying to get otaku to buy merchandise featuring little girls doing questionable things.

CCS was the good moe, and perhaps the last of its kind.

 

[Dresden]

you know i might actually watch k-on if it werent a lesbian only club

But Mugi moogsing off those moogs is like the best part.

i think doomed1 will have that covered LOL

Prolly. I don't trust him ever since he declared his love for tsundere characters, though. They're not to be trusted.

I'm against it on principal! Raaaaaage!

It might be a shameless collusion between kakifly and KyoAni to generate more cash, but who knows, the girls might even get laid! Get drunk! Mugi mooging the moogs (whatever that means)!

did you ever watch CCS? There was no transformation sequence.

I'm not sure how age of the work is relevant here. RK is better than most action shows out there and its 10+ years old.

CCS is better, dude is just crazy.

 

[zeroshiki]

I will be standing with firehawk on the next K-On and Haruhi series. (Although I somehow doubt the Haruhi author will ever freaking leave the 2 year period between Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody and Disappearance. He just goes in circles.)

 

[Branduil]

Except that I'm not comparing Madoka to Twilight. Madoka at least has redeeming features. What I'm trying to say is that you're welcome to enjoy it, but there are weaknesses in the plot and writing, at least according to my understanding of literature which I have expressed several times now. Is this unreasonable?

Spoiler

I'm going to sleep now, the page can LIVE

It just seems to me you're analyzing anime through an obsolete lens of literary criticism which does a poor job of actually determining the quality of a work.

 

[Jex]

A recency effect bias can be as strong as a nostalgia bias.

Both are equally troubling, I agree.

Yes it contains a lot of stuff that would, today, be considered moe pandering. The difference is back then it was a natural result of how the characters were written and developed, not because they were trying to get otaku to buy merchandise featuring little girls doing questionable things.

Just like Evangelion, before the new movies.
OH GOD DOUBLE POST

 

[Jex]

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[zeroshiki]

Both are equally troubling, I agree.

Bah. Everything was better 10 years ago.

 

[firehawk12]

It might be a shameless collusion between kakifly and KyoAni to generate more cash, but who knows, the girls might even get laid! Get drunk! Mugi mooging the moogs (whatever that means)!

Hey, if it's Hen Zemi with the K-On!! girls, it'll be the best (????) thing ever?
I'll take Genshiken with Mugi as the moogster who moogs over Yuri anime.

Save it for when the movie appears. If it becomes overtly moe as Season 1, then a cause for rage is necessary.

Time to book my December flight so I can line up for the midnight screening! Or buy my tickets in advance because they have assigned seating for movies there. :lol

I will be standing with firehawk on the next K-On and Haruhi series. (Although I somehow doubt the Haruhi author will ever freaking leave the 2 year period between Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody and Disappearance. He just goes in circles.)

I can't remember if I still like Haruhi or not. :lol

 

[Branduil]

Both are equally troubling, I agree.

Just like Evangelion, before the new movies.
OH GOD DOUBLE POST

Evangelion still had a lot of stuff that was pandering even back then, though.

 

[Jex]

Evangelion still had a lot of stuff that was pandering even back then, though.

Character situations yes, clearly, but we were talking about writing.

People should tune in to the 1UP charity marathon to learn glorious Japanese games, maybe they'll be moe?

Aww, they've switched to shooters.

 

[firehawk12]

Evangelion still had a lot of stuff that was pandering even back then, though.

Eva panders in the same way that Madoka panders... Eva just rises above it by having more than just deconstructionist impulses.

 

[Infinite Justice]

But Mugi moogsing off those moogs is like the best part.

Prolly. I don't trust him ever since he declared his love for tsundere characters, though. They're not to be trusted.

It might be a shameless collusion between kakifly and KyoAni to generate more cash, but who knows, the girls might even get laid! Get drunk! Mugi mooging the moogs (whatever that means)!

CCS is better, dude is just crazy.

I just wonder if something called a male will appear lol

CCS is the true OG in a time where that stuff came with the territory (i.e Clamp with their specific style).

 

[Hellsing321]

I just wonder if something called a male will appear lol

Why would they want to kill their cash cow?

 

[zeroshiki]

Hey, if it's Hen Zemi with the K-On!! girls, it'll be the best (????) thing ever?
I'll take Genshiken with Mugi as the moogster who moogs over Yuri anime.


Time to book my December flight so I can line up for the midnight screening! Or buy my tickets in advance because they have assigned seating for movies there. :lol


I can't remember if I still like Haruhi or not. :lol

I don't think they do midnight showings. And I'm certain you can get a seat. I walked up to the HYD movie on opening day and bought tickets to the 8pm showing. This is a movie with a massive fangirl following. Otaku bait has nothing on it.

 

[Dresden]

We don't need no stinking males in K-ON.

BAM

 

[firehawk12]

Why would they want to kill their cash cow?

It could be like Genshiken 2.0, where there's a guy who likes to dress up like a girl who joins their band.

I don't think they do midnight showings. And I'm certain you can get a seat. I walked up to the HYD movie on opening day and bought tickets to the 8pm showing. This is a movie with a massive fangirl following. Otaku bait has nothing on it.

K-On as a fangirl following??

We don't need no stinking males in K-ON.

http://i.imgur.com/qyw3Y.jpg[IMG]

BAM[/QUOTE]
Poor Asuza!

 

[InfiniteNine]

I'll take Sawako. The rest of them can jump off a cliff or something.

It could be like Genshiken 2.0, where there's a guy who likes to dress up like a girl who joins their band.

So make a KiraKira anime? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sjgvEZ1g3c

 

[zeroshiki]

It could be like Genshiken 2.0, where there's a guy who likes to dress up like a girl who joins their band.


K-On as a fangirl following??


Poor Asuza!

Sorry, I meant HYD. I walked up and bought a ticket opening day to a movie with crazy fangirls following it. K-On would probably be easier.

 

[Dresden]

Poor Asuza!

Such is the fate of irrelevant side characters.

Also, animu sales tiem:

Weekly Oricon DVD & Blu-ray Rankings for Mar 28 - Apr 3
DVD
*1, 7,794 *,**7,794 IS: Infinite Stratos vol.1
*2, 7,436 *,**7,436 Manga Nihon Mukashi Banashi DVD Box vol.1
*3, 6,581 *,**6,581 Hetalia World Series vol.5 Limited Edition
*4, 5,512 *,**5,512 Manga Nihon Mukashi Banashi DVD Box vol.2
*5, 2,727 *,**2,727 Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu: Matsuri vol.2
*6, 2,062 *,**2,062 Freezing vol.1
*7, 1,824 *,**1,824 Queen's Blade: Utsukushiki Toushitachi vol.6
*8, 1,615 *,**1,615 Hyakka Ryouran: Samurai Girls vol.5
*9, 1,532 1,064,699 My Neighbor Totoro
10, 1,359 *,**3,940 Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor DVD Box
11, 1,131 *,**4,817 Heartcatch Precure! Hana no To de Fashion Show... Desu ka!? Special Edition
12, *,973 *,449,677 Kiki's Delivery Service
13, *,929 *,***,929 Crayon Shin-chan Collection of Best Episodes
14, *,914 *,**5,042 K-ON!! vol.9
15, *,903 *,323,734 Princess Mononoke
16, *,784 *,721,473 Castle in the Sky

Blu-ray
*1, 21,574　*21,574 IS: Infinite Stratos vol.1
*2, *3,676　**3,676 Freezing vol.1
*3, *3,443　**3,443 Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu: Matsuri vol.2
*4, *3,137　*32,987 K-ON!! vol.9 Limited Edition
*5, *2,906　**2,906 Hyakka Ryouran: Samurai Girls vol.5
*6, *2,417　**6,132 Shinryaku! Ika Musume vol.4
*7, *2,318　**2,318 Queen's Blade: Utsukushiki Toushitachi vol.6
*8, *2,267　**2,267 Space Runaway Ideon Movies Limited Edition
*9, *1,780　**4,813 Tantei Opera Milky Holmes vol.3
10, *1,751　**4,252 Heartcatch Precure! Hana no To de Fashion Show... Desu ka!? Special Edition
11, *1,311　**1,311 Shukufuku no Campanella OVA
12, *1,300　**3,942 Amagami SS vol.11 Limited Edition
13, *1,188　**1,188 Sousei no Aquarion Blu-ray BOX
14, *1,104　**3,594 Amagami SS vol.10 Limited Edition
15, *1,089　**1,089 Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu vol.6
16, **,890　***,890 MM! vol.4
17, **,857　***,857 Princess Lover! Blu-ray BOX
18, **,830　**3,744 Yumekui Merry vol.1
19, **,702　**2,899 Kore wa Zombie Desu ka? vol.1 Deluxe Edition
20, **,590　**1,717 Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru vol.4
21, **,543　**6,475 Yosuga no Sora vol.5
22, **,538　107,956 Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn vol.2
23, **,415　***,415 Soul Eater Blu-ray Box
24, **,405　*23,736 Castle in the Sky
25, **,391　108,853 Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn vol.1
26, **,384　**2,635 Sora no Otoshimono: Forte vol.4
27, **,323　**2,604 Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei Blu-ray Box

bad harem show: 1
rest of the world: 0

 

[Hellsing321]

It could be like Genshiken 2.0, where there's a guy who likes to dress up like a girl who joins their band.

He'll have to be a comic relief character or the otaku will run away screaming. Can't have no Shuu being too manly and taking all their girls away

 

[firehawk12]

Sorry, I meant HYD. I walked up and bought a ticket opening day to a movie with crazy fangirls following it. K-On would probably be easier.

What does HYD stand for?

21,000 copies of Infinite Stratos? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU JAPAN!!!!

 

[Solune]

dont even say Mai Hime, that show was riddled with fanservice and pointless episodes

LOL, I am sorry but you said you Like Mai-Otome over Mai-Hime and you're claiming this? just wow. My brain is certainly riddled beyond comprehension

 

[Haly]

Mio would develop a crush on him and Mugi could be all jealous and shit.

 

[zeroshiki]

What does HYD stand for?

notsureifserious...

Hana Yori Dango

LOL, I am sorry but you said you Like Mai-Otome over Mai-Hime and you're claiming this? just wow. My brain is certainly riddled beyond comprehension

lol, I'm sure Uchip got the idea. The last page has been a massive pileon on the dude.

 

[InfiniteNine]

Does the Zetsubou Sensei BD box have English options? I'd buy it.

 

[Branduil]

Character situations yes, clearly, but we were talking about writing.

People should tune in to the 1UP charity marathon to learn glorious Japanese games, maybe they'll be moe?

Aww, they've switched to shooters.

Yes obviously they didn't know at the time that what people would take from Eva is that Asuka and Rei must be copied and dehumanized endlessly until they were little more than fetishes. I've said it before but Eva(unintentionally) had an awful influence on anime.

As opposed to Cowboy Bebop which ended up having exactly zero influence despite being awesome.

 

[firehawk12]

notsureifserious...

Hana Yori Dango

Never heard of it, really!

So make a KiraKira anime? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sjgvEZ1g3c

Wow, they already beat me to it.

He'll have to be a comic relief character or the otaku will run away screaming. Can't have no Shuu being too manly and taking all their girls away

Mugi's gotta Moog.

 

[Geneijin]

For Volume 1? Damn Japan, Volume 3 is where it's at wasn't it? What the hell.

Time to book my December flight so I can line up for the midnight screening! Or buy my tickets in advance because they have assigned seating for movies there. :lol

Should rent out a theater instead and schedule your own midnight screening.

My brain is certainly riddled beyond comprehension

More Natsuki and Shizuru fanservice <3

 

[zeroshiki]

Never hear of it, really!

Its like the biggest shoujo property ever. Bigger than Sailormoon!

 

[InfiniteNine]

Wow, they already beat me to it.

Funny thing is this and K-ON! came out around the same time. I'd prefer for KiraKira to be animated honestly since it actually made me laugh.

 

[Haly]

Everytime I think to myself: "I should watch one of the new episodes and see what's good", I wind up watching Maison Ikkoku instead.

 

[Hellsing321]

bad harem show: 1
rest of the world: 0

 

[firehawk12]

Its like the biggest shoujo property ever. Bigger than Sailormoon!

Wow, you're not kidding. Chinese AND Korean adaptations!
Kind of need to check it out.

 

[Geneijin]

Never heard of it, really!

Uh o, there's a drama too firehawk... Just to let you know.

Edit: Beaten.

 

[Dresden]

Let me cheer you up, man.

Wandering Son won't sell 5% of what IS sold in the first week.

 

[Infinite Justice]

Such is the fate of irrelevant side characters.

Well she'll get her story soon.

 

[Branduil]

Like I said, the anime industry needs to die before it can live.