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Spring 2011 Anime Thread of ZAWA ZAWA, Money, emo Cyclops, and fun^10xint^40=Ir2
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You should do doujin too!InfiniteNine said:
I would preferably use infatuation than adoration as the better word since you've mentioned it, but I still disagree with the assertion that the primary emotion response of a moe-element is a protective reaction. I understand the "moeru" - the "burning." But whether it's a protective response to that burning or a protective reaction from "what is moe~," it wrongly describes the elicited response of all moe-elements. If that weren't so, I'd have to ask you for more specific examples because Kanon 06 and Key animes in general are more of an exception to a protective reaction to a moe-element than the epitome of a moe-element reaction. If you agree moe is subjective and possesses many different connotations to each different recipient of a moe-element, then how is every reaction by each recipient similarly a protective one? For example, Lucky Star and K-On have very few instances where a moe-element elicits that specific type of reaction you've stated in your paper. Also, if a moe-element can stimulate attraction in a cute sense or sexual arousal, how can both be a protective response?doomed1 said:
Possessiveness wouldn't work either to describe a general moe-element response. A possessive or protective reaction to a moe-element would still refer to a specific sensation from moe. A looser definition like Jexhius' would be better although I disagree with his personally from months ago.
You've used it correctly when describing about it through a narrative function, but all I'm complaining about is your general definition of moe when you were strictly referring to a specific moe-element and a specific moe reaction in that paper. That's my only minor complaint reading it really.
That's good to hear. I remember someone mentioning this exact thing before, so I've kept that to mind. Was that you then who said it?Articalys said:
Sorry, had to sleep before I got into this, and now I have to write a news story.
Definition is necessary for appropriate usage though. Without a definition beyond "positive emotion" moe the noun could be fuck all, and that pretty much makes it useless for everyone. Moe as an adjective can be fuck all, just as long as it illicits moe the noun/feeling. Now, understand that the "protective" range is wider than you're giving me credit for here and comes through in ways you wouldn't expect, plus might bring about co-feelings and fantasies, but the primary element of moe is that protective reaction and can be to do anything from just being there for support to protecting from actual imminent harm. There is a good reason I chose the definition I did, and it was after carefully reading my sources, which, frankly, are the best in talking about this sub-culture phenomenon called "moe".Jexhius said:
In this case I just don't have the data or research to support anything other than female characters. Anything else would be conjecture and anecdotal. Though you'd have to admit that male-moe is MUCH rarer than the female driven variety. Also, Shinji is REALLY stretching it as far as moe goes, but not rule 63 Shinji, which is where the (cultural) double standard exists! (And I pointed that out)
Because K-ON! has a narrative? It's a relatively simple narrative of high schoolers playing in a rock band and their ordinary lives. I could see this stuff happening in real life, and ordinary life has often been heavily exploited for purposes of narrative, which is basically just characters, setting, conflict. There aren't any requirements for how complex this has to be nor how "epic".
Again, a definition looser than I posited makes use of moe as a literary element practically useless. Now, other emotions might ACCOMPANY the chara-moe, and that protectiveness itself might even take on different forms, but boiled down, it's all essentially the same reaction.Geneijin said:
Hitokage said:
The xxxHolic TV series was terrible, I'll grant you that (loved the Midsummer Night's Dream film, though), but he does have a weirdly decent track record with directing comedy - Genshiken, Hare Nochi Guu, lots of Crayon Shin-chan. Plus Oofuri is quite well regarded, isn't it?
I hope Saya spends half this series talking about her inescapable destiny. Preferably with blood-drenched feathers floating past her at all times.
KuwabaraTheMan
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BluWacky said:
Yeah, Ookiku Furikabutte is great. That's enough to give me faith in his ability as a director.
It won't, but it doesn't matter in this case, female shepherd is right shepherd cause of Jennifer HaleHalycon said:
.I didn't like the conflict they used for her story, didn't resonate well with me. I didn't think any of the characters were bad, just ranked them based on how much I enjoyed them, their all good in my book!Instro said:
Knowing what it looks like =/= Knowing what an Otaku is. People that I've encountered are mostly under the assumption that anime is still a kids thing etc. So when they walk into your room and see undressing K-On girls or a similar Wall Scroll, explaining it becomes an exercise in futility. Hell I remember I was on a flight to india once, and decided to buy Hot Gimmick for reading material on the flight, and first thing the lady sitting next to me asked me when she noticed what I was reading, was "Are you reading porn on a plane", she had gotten the odd notion that all manga was of a sexual nature.Miri said:
But I suppose, if that isn't a problem for you, the scrolls have their benefits, like staring at them when having sex?
Those production companies interested can already apply and send their new preliminary drafts for the upcoming 2011 Young Animators' Training Project (若手アニメーター育成プロジェクトflawfuls said:
.平成23年度 若手アニメーター育成プロジェクトのお知らせ(速報
http://wakatesnews.blogspot.com/2011/04/23.html
Without a continued support this initiative is near useless in its current form. I suppose their objetive is to make this a regular project to continue nurturing that new talent. Japan Animation Creators Association (JAniCA) is a very young organization and that influences its capability to finance this kind of projects only with the contributions of its members, so is thanks to the Japanese Agency for Cultural Affairs (文化庁
that this is made. Let's hope they continue to do so!Oh, so it'll be a yearly thing? Very nice./XX/ said:Those production companies interested can already apply and send their new preliminary drafts for the upcoming 2011 Young Animators' Training Project (若手アニメーター育成プロジェクト
doomed1 said:
That was glorious. I know that for those who don't know the series it was probably kind meh due to the transfer student and stuff like that but it gets WAY better. I've been reading this lately ever since I read about it on a site called Sekijitsu, (anybody heard of it?) and I it's become one of my favorite things to read. I love what they did with Switch and Himeko. Bossun's voice is ok but I feel that it could have been better. Switch's text messages are the best, I can't wait until the show really takes off.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Every teacher at this school should be fired. They have a kid being noticeably bullied for something everyone at the school knows about, and then they go and facilitate that by allowing their classes to do cultural festival projects that will draw attention to that?
Overall, this was another great episode that just goes to show how powerful this show is. I only wish that they would have aired the full versions of these two episodes instead, as I would have liked to see even more time spent on this subject.
Every teacher at this school should be fired. They have a kid being noticeably bullied for something everyone at the school knows about, and then they go and facilitate that by allowing their classes to do cultural festival projects that will draw attention to that?
Overall, this was another great episode that just goes to show how powerful this show is. I only wish that they would have aired the full versions of these two episodes instead, as I would have liked to see even more time spent on this subject.
Crash Station
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Dresden said:
AHHHHHHHHHHH!
Is that from Dororon? May have to watch it.
Metal Gear?!
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Nope http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXLLrrWaEewKuwabaraTheMan said:
Nope, just read up on the premise on Wikipedia and you're fine. Everyone should watch Beautiful Dreamer. No one should watch the show unless they really really want to.icarus-daedelus said:
Jex
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Of course!InfiniteNine said:
And I wouldn't need to hound your opinions across the internet because you're already in this thread.
Gerald update: now he says MGS3 is a bad game. Is there any part part of his taste that can be considered trustworthy? (See, I won't need to do this for you because everyone already knows your opinions!).
Crash Station
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Great first episode. Wish they went a bit crazy with Bossun's concentration mode, but it was good nonetheless. Glad I decided to stop reading the manga after chapter 3 since this looks like it will actually be a very good adaptation, at least for now.
Great first episode. Wish they went a bit crazy with Bossun's concentration mode, but it was good nonetheless. Glad I decided to stop reading the manga after chapter 3 since this looks like it will actually be a very good adaptation, at least for now.
Crash Station
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Dresden said:
Sounds fine to me.
Sure thing.cosmicblizzard said:
The thread is up. Copy and pasting things is hard work. *cracks back*
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=26973318#post26973318
@Infinite: I used your banner, tell me if you mind and I'll take it off asap. Thanks.
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