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Spring Anime 2013 |OT -7| My Giant CG Pony Can't Possibly Read This Much Baudelaire

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Regulus Tera

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I swear all Ikuhara wanted was an excuse to draw the girls in fabulous ways while they engaged in some pretty :sdburton activities. Including some despair, natch.
Also featured: repetition of cues, some neat mechanical (if fantastical) animation, and lewdness. Oh, so much lewdness.
 

Articalys

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As a reminder for the imminent sales listings, Nekomonogatari Black vol.1 did 48,534 in its first week. Will be interested to see what the drop is to vol.2, since it's just the two volumes for the whole thing after all.
 

sonicmj1

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I've said my piece before. This is Genshiken or NHK without any of the self-awareness or irony behind it, rendering it a text that offers nothing but to justify the lives of the very people attracted to the work. It is the man-porn for nerds, leading us to...

Twilight being the exemplar of shitty porn for lonely tweens. You think feminists have written screed after screed about this textual detritous because they have nothing better to do? They see it as destructive to girls precisely because it represents a type of wish fulfillment that is self-destructive and damaging to people trying to form their identities.

Have fun playing games. That's fine. I like Pure Pwnage as much as any other nerd. There's a difference between the guys on Big Bang Theory playing Mario Kart and Kirito though. It is undeniable.

Of course there's a difference. But there are tons of shows and light novels that throw girlfriends at useless nothings of male characters to justify their lonely lives and spineless personalities. Just like there are whole genres of chick lit about bland women finding rapturous romance with dashing, handsome men.

For the record, I don't really think Sword Art Online is a particularly good show. I just don't see how it's any worse than the majority of mediocre pandering stuff which mostly defines the anime industry. It's a show about a boy who goes into a game and saves the girl. Big fucking deal. Boo hoo. It's not surprising that it's successful because it's easy to understand and it looks pretty cool.

Exactly. I mean, Campione wasn't that long ago, and it's a show about a teenager who, thanks to a "series of events", becomes an immortal hero who winds up with a harem of women who have to kiss him to cast spells that help him in battle. Also he unconsciously attracts women because grandfather. The quality of the writing on its Wikipedia page alone tells you all you need to know.

Just because Kirito achieves his teenage wish fulfillment inside a special video game, instead of through some other completely contrived circumstance, doesn't make him any different from anyone else.
 

Articalys

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Ironically enough, Yoshitsugu Matsuoka also voiced the MC in Campione.
Plus, while double-checking that fact, I just learned he apparently voiced a minor character in Hanasaku Iroha who was named... Kirito.
 

duckroll

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Even if they're freelance, a number heavily work with BONES.

And there are just as many capable directors who work with A-1 these days. They simply picked a team of unsuitable people to adapt the manga. The same thing could happen at BONES, or any other studio. Well, not any other studio. Some of them are outright bad because they don't have enough talent internally to attract good talent to work with them. But with any established studio, the odds of something being good or bad depends almost entirely on the actual people making the show. The studio itself doesn't really have a big quality impact.

Actually, considering the production pipeline for BONES right now, if Magi was somehow made at BONES, it would probably have been a A Studio production directed by Hitoshi Nanba and written by Akatsuki Yamatoya. Yikes. No thanks. I'll take what we got!
 

kayos90

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Ironically enough, Yoshitsugu Matsuoka also voiced the MC in Campione.
Plus, while double-checking that fact, I just learned he apparently voiced a minor character in Hanasaku Iroha who was named... Kirito.

I really want him to voice Raku once Nisekoi gets an anime. lol.
 

sonicmj1

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This Aku no Hana talk's reminding me of when I used to defend Fujikoike. At least I agree with most of y'all that the rotoscoping's mediocre.
That's about it, anyway, since I don't know if the manga's any good or not
.

I forgive you. You couldn't have known how that ending would turn out.
 

Dresden

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Of course there's a difference. But there are tons of shows and light novels that throw girlfriends at useless nothings of male characters to justify their lonely lives and spineless personalities. Just like there are whole genres of chick lit about bland women finding rapturous romance with dashing, handsome men.
I had this exact same conversation with firehawk last year - you just have to accept his special brand of hatred for SAO. For a six-fingered man named SAO killed his father.
 

Jarmel

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And there are just as many capable directors who work with A-1 these days. They simply picked a team of unsuitable people to adapt the manga. The same thing could happen at BONES, or any other studio. Well, not any other studio. Some of them are outright bad because they don't have enough talent internally to attract good talent to work with them. But with any established studio, the odds of something being good or bad depends almost entirely on the actual people making the show. The studio itself doesn't really have a big quality impact.

Actually, considering the production pipeline for BONES right now, if Magi was somehow made at BONES, it would probably have been a A Studio production directed by Hitoshi Nanba and written by Akatsuki Yamatoya. Yikes. No thanks. I'll take what we got!

Obviously any studio is made up of people. Any company is just a group of people. Is it possible that A1 could have made some sort of perfect match? Sure but they didn't and they didn't with a few of their other projects either. As for BONES, they rarely strike out in regards to production values(usually due to shitty writing). Now could this be because BONES attracts a higher level of people in general or they have a generally larger budget? Sure. In the end though, through whatever system BONES uses, the directors are for the most part a decent match and are able to keep the ship afloat compared to whatever happened with Magi and Ohtaka, Shiotani and PP, or even Ishihama with SSY.
 

duckroll

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Obviously any studio is made up of people. Any company is just a group of people. Is it possible that A1 could have made some sort of perfect match? Sure but they didn't and they didn't with a few of their other projects either. As for BONES, they rarely strike out in regards to production values(usually due to shitty writing). Now could this be because BONES attracts a higher level of people in general or they have a generally larger budget? Sure. In the end though, through whatever system BONES uses, the directors are for the most part a decent match and are able to keep the ship afloat compared to whatever happened with Shiotani and PP.

I don't think BONES has had a great match of directors for shows in a long time now actually. Gosick and Heroman were both terrible choices of material for the director. Star Driver was a poor match for someone who has never directed a mecha show before. Ando is completely wasted on a Zetsuen adaptation. Teaming Mizushima and Arakawa again only to make something like UnGo instead of a shounen action series was just silly. Lots of bad matches.

A-1 has had quite a number of really good matches on the other hand. Idolmaster, Sword Art Online, Vividred Operation, Birdy Decode, Blue Exorcist, Tsuritama, Anohana. They're all very good matches creatively for the directors handling the materials, and the end results show. Magi was a really big mistake, but it could simply be that no one really wanted to adapt Magi and it was merely a commercial decision instead of a passionate one.

I think the comparison in the end is stupid because unless we know for certain that there was someone out there who was really waiting to do Magi justice but was passed up for the team who made it instead, it's hard to argue that someone else might have done a better job because if they don't care about the material, the end result is going to be bad no matter how talented they are. The Magi director is certainly talented, it's just too bad this wasn't a show about cute girls with special powers. :p
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
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Brilliant comedy episode that would not be out of place with some of the best Goldfish Warning! Chitose shenanigans. Silly Usagi-chan, you can not just become an ojousama! It was also pretty hilarious to see the show lampshade some of its ridiculous tropes, like
Moon Tiara Action being just a more fabulous version of frisbee
. I'm also really enjoying Tuxedo Mask
in his new role. He's not as evil as I was hoping, but it's still refreshing to see him being turned upside down
. I don't get the hate, Theonik.

P.S. The secrets of the arcade, REVEALED. My mind = blown
P.P.S. Makoto once again proving why she has the best talent.
P.P.P.S. Wax. Nipples. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaat
Amazing.
I don't think BONES has had a great match of directors for shows in a long time now actually. Gosick and Heroman were both terrible choices of material for the director. Star Driver was a poor match for someone who has never directed a mecha show before.
I thought the problem with Star Driver was that it tried to be too much like Utena without being Utena, not so much the mecha. That said, I stopped watching it in episode six.
 

cajunator

Banned
I had this exact same conversation with firehawk last year - you just have to accept his special brand of hatred for SAO. For a six-fingered man named SAO killed his father.

At least he watched the whole thing.

[Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon] 037

Brilliant comedy episode that would not be out of place with some of the best Goldfish Warning! Chitose shenanigans. Silly Usagi-chan, you can not just become an ojousama! It was also pretty hilarious to see the show lampshade some of its ridiculous tropes, like
Moon Tiara Action being just a more fabulous version of frisbee
. I'm also really enjoying Tuxedo Mask
in his new role. He's not as evil as I was hoping, but it's still refreshing to see him being turned upside down
. I don't get the hate, Theonik.

P.S. The secrets of the arcade, REVEALED. My mind = blown
P.P.S. Makoto once again proving why she has the best talent.
P.P.P.S. Wax. Nipples. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaat

Amazing.

I thought the problem with Star Driver was that it tried to be too much like Utena without being Utena, not so much the mecha. That said, I stopped watching it in episode six.

one of my favorite episodes of season one easily.
 

BluWacky

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I don't think BONES has had a great match of directors for shows in a long time now actually. Gosick and Heroman were both terrible choices of material for the director. Star Driver was a poor match for someone who has never directed a mecha show before. Ando is completely wasted on a Zetsuen adaptation. Teaming Mizushima and Arakawa again only to make something like UnGo instead of a shounen action series was just silly. Lots of bad matches.

The idea of Arakawa's character designs in UnGo is amusing, but I think you mean Aikawa :p
 

Jintor

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It has this weird thing going where what would be epic, world-shaking events in other sci-fi stories feel a little blunted because it's in a show about high school girl adventures in space. Like, a
world-faring Ark ship with a cloned line of royalty should feel a lot more insanely overarcingly heavy, but because of the general treatment of the world, it just feels... kinda fuwa fuwa

Whatever, it's still really enjoyable~
 

cajunator

Banned
It has this weird thing going where what would be epic, world-shaking events in other sci-fi stories feel a little blunted because it's in a show about high school girl adventures in space. Like, a
world-faring Ark ship with a cloned line of royalty should feel a lot more insanely overarcingly heavy, but because of the general treatment of the world, it just feels... kinda fuwa fuwa

Whatever, it's still really enjoyable~

thats how the show rolls.
I mean look at those knife ships.
hell, the whole premise is silly.
 
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