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Spring Anime 2015 |OT| The Disappearance of YEAARRT!
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Theonik
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We had to sacrifice FigureGAF in a pantsu circle using a naked loli as a catalyst.
something something b-baka inu
SliceSabre
Banned
I have such a seething dislike of the MC Louise that I cannot see straight.
NCR Redslayer
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names2hard4you
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So AnimeGAF I was looking for some college setting shows and stumbled upon Honey and Clover, which I never watched. What are your opinions on it? There seem to be a ton of episodes, 2 seasons so it will have to be a pretty big commitment lol.
Slow burn, but good in quite a few ways. Easily recommended.
There hasn't been much discussion of it, but one of the odder sources for an anime adaptation was announced a few days ago.
Aya Suzaki (KLK's Mako, Tamako Market's Tamako) and Asuka Nishi (Kinmosa's Shinobu)'s radio show is getting an anime adaptation. I don't know if that means it'll be something like Natsuiro Kiseki - which was essentially Sphere the Anime - or what form it'll take. Radio shows are usually meant to promote anime, not be the basis of them.
Aya Suzaki (KLK's Mako, Tamako Market's Tamako) and Asuka Nishi (Kinmosa's Shinobu)'s radio show is getting an anime adaptation. I don't know if that means it'll be something like Natsuiro Kiseki - which was essentially Sphere the Anime - or what form it'll take. Radio shows are usually meant to promote anime, not be the basis of them.
CheapJuice
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Cornbread78
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(Zero no Tsukaima)The Familiar of Zero ep. 1-8:
OK, so this was my random choice from my list in MAL today, and I thougth it was only 1 season, but I was wrong. I love the fantasy setting, the animation isn't too bad and it pretty. Having "Taiga" do the VA for the main heroine Louise is perfect for the role and they are definately cast in the same role here. However, Taiga was actually nicer than Louise is. She's a complete Tsundere noble biotch in this one...
Of course the protag Saito already has a harem of ladies that he picks up whereever he goes, which is hilarious to watch Louise get all ticked off that he's off flirting with another lady... Poor thing, maybe she needs to learn how to treat a man and not kick him in the balls. (happened twice already the poor guy)
I donlt think I've gotten to this part in the story yet, but here are our main duo:
So far this is a lot of fun to watch, not too heavy on any single element, just solid all the way around. Hey, what's not to like, it's got swords, magic princesses and familiars, lol.
OK, so this was my random choice from my list in MAL today, and I thougth it was only 1 season, but I was wrong. I love the fantasy setting, the animation isn't too bad and it pretty. Having "Taiga" do the VA for the main heroine Louise is perfect for the role and they are definately cast in the same role here. However, Taiga was actually nicer than Louise is. She's a complete Tsundere noble biotch in this one...
Of course the protag Saito already has a harem of ladies that he picks up whereever he goes, which is hilarious to watch Louise get all ticked off that he's off flirting with another lady... Poor thing, maybe she needs to learn how to treat a man and not kick him in the balls. (happened twice already the poor guy)
I donlt think I've gotten to this part in the story yet, but here are our main duo:
So far this is a lot of fun to watch, not too heavy on any single element, just solid all the way around. Hey, what's not to like, it's got swords, magic princesses and familiars, lol.
Cornbread78
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I've made it up to around episode 9, but man, it is taking awhile to get to a point. The first several episodes are all set-up with nothing really going on. I'm going to keep watching it in spurts, but it is tough to watch for long periods of time, lol.
You had me at Ushio, lol.
This moment, right here... dammit, still get's me, I won;t opst the other's that are complete spoilers.
Theonik
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Paging Zach.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Symphogear G 06
Oh my God fuck this show. First off, Tachibana's rage mode is just the Fox Chakra BS from Naruto. Second, Tsubasa's first instinct when she learns Tachibana is probably going to die is "LOL GO FUCK OFF U SUCK"
??? Who acts like this
And this evil scientist is probably the most generic ever. Wow. If I have to hear him go HIEEEEEEEEEE because he's afraid one more time I swear to god
Oh my God fuck this show. First off, Tachibana's rage mode is just the Fox Chakra BS from Naruto. Second, Tsubasa's first instinct when she learns Tachibana is probably going to die is "LOL GO FUCK OFF U SUCK"
??? Who acts like this
And this evil scientist is probably the most generic ever. Wow. If I have to hear him go HIEEEEEEEEEE because he's afraid one more time I swear to god
names2hard4you
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Gaahh, I see and with this many episodes I definitely don't want that /: they really need to start making more college setting stuff.
watch wake up girls instead
Watch The Tatami Galaxy
Cornbread78
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You can easily see why it going to get good later from the set-up, it's just taking awhile to get there, lol.
And yeah, more college stuff or later would be great!
names2hard4you
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Just read the synopsis on MAL, looks really interesting... Hmmm might give this a shot.
I'm super looking forward to it, I've hope in my heart for another Tesabu-esque adlib thing.
I watched it to the end out a sort of morbid curiosity, but there haven't been many characters among all the series I've seen that I've hated quite as much as that dick. He is like all the evil scientist cliches wrapped in one slimy package and so obviously evul that only a brain damaged individual would continue to work with him, but nooo, we need him for X any Y while he is clearly just fucking with you.
I mean, dickish villains can be great if done properly, but he just keeps fumbling about, somehow always getting what he wants despite being a total fuckhead because the womenfolk in his team are somehow unable to get even a single clue.
KenjiGlove
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It's really good. Episode 6 might be one of my favorite individual episodes of all anime. It's also made by the director of Ping-Pong.
So, Funimation announced The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan cast:
Shark McShark voicing everyone!
Shark McShark voicing everyone!
names2hard4you
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Okay I might give this a go, but I'll go into it knowing that it's gonna drag on a bit.
Uh that makes it even more interesting.
Let me say this - if you like shows like Mushishi and romance with accent on feelings - you'll enjoy it a lot. Best way to watch it - 3 ep per day. Last chapters of first season and second season are fantastic in terms of feelings.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think Louise actually predates Taiga, no? (and the Rie Kugimiya tsundere thing came from Shana before THAT, right?)
Basileus777
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It's where she perfected her urusai saying abilities.
Not really. Actually theres a little bit of light drama, but mostly slice of life and Renge being the cutest little thing ever.
Thats where "nyanpasu" comes from. Its setting is a small rural town where life is just a lot slower.
Hell yeah.
Sound! Euphonium - 04
Previous impressions/observations:
Episode 1
Episode 2
Episode 3
Another awesome episode!
- The whole part-lead/part-meet thing is usually irrelevant to western ensembles. For wind ensemble/concert band it's usually just the typical section leader thing. For orchestra it's typically a meeting of the desks, with the concertmaster being the most important person because they are basically in charge of delegating the conductor's wishes to the ensembles in both rehearsal and practice. A far different arrangement than how bands work.
- 60 is a solid number for the band. Especially in high school. It's quite large.
- Kousaka practicing outside is always nice.
- I love that their music room has the chalkboards with the permanent staff lines written in. In most schools you have to use the shitty tool where you hook five markers or pieces of chalk up to it and draw. It sucks, haha.
- I love Taki-sensei asserting himself. He's such a good band director.
- When they did the jogging outside it reminded me of when I used to do drum corps. We'd get woken up at about 6 AM and do laps for about 45 mins or so. It was so tiring but really helped keep us all in shape, and get the blood flowing.
- Seeing them out of breath trying to play was funny. The sound design for them struggling after being out of breath in this part was on the money, they played the low alto concert b-flat, which is the tuning pitch wind bands use.
- Poor french horns. Not since they were just valveless instruments that you changed pitches with your hand and bell opening have they really had to march. This style was commonly referred to as natural horn, and most people don't know this technique in modern times. For me in undergrad it was my primary area of instrument study for two years, resulting in a masterclass with Dale Clevenger on an original Richard Seraphinoff made for Jeff Nelsen! Most ensembles opt to use the Mellophone for horn players as they come in a much more easy to use form factor and produces nearly the same timbre at like 80% less struggle. The hard part for them is the shape, and the fact that most younger players tend to rest the instrument on their thighs for support (which is a major no no in professional ensembles).
- This breath exercise is totally a real thing I have done, as have many others. The main purpose is to help exercise the lungs, teach a focus of breath, extend duration of breath, and to relax the performer. It also teaches better breathing posture.
- Cutest french horn section. I want to be there. Even their cases are drawn correctly. Attention to detail is amazing.
- Sectionals with trombones was great. All the details were there. The audio reflected how they didn't have any of their entrances lined up, and the slide positions were correct. This was ALSO reflected in the visuals. The difference in breath and slide positions were all there. Notice how each of the performers moves to slide position 3 (middle-c) at a slightly different time. If they showed more of the lower harmony players I could give more info on that too, however the framing cut their slide positions off.
- I find it funny that they have trombones with the rotor b-flat/f switch but aren't using them.
- The repetition and metronome drilling is a common practice, especially in director run sectionals.
- Trumpets tuning to C (concert b-flat) is accurate in sound here. Correct C was used (the one above middle-c) and the fingerings were correct. I love the detail in their hand positions too! Each of them put thir ring finger in the third valve slide, while not all of them are using the right hand pinky-hook. The two players on the left are using it (which indicates that they use it to create pressure between lips and mouthpiece; a terrible habit and one that's tough to break), while the player on the right it not, indicating that she's got a much better embrochure.
- The tuning with the sharp girl was also spot on. "Listen for the waves and smooth them out till there's no more".
- One thing I was taught is that most EU contries have different tuning standards and tend to be more sharp than other parts of the world, typically tuning 3-10 hz higher. The trumpets here are more at the 466.16 hz standard commonly used. The girl who is sharp comes in super sharp (like mabye 10-13 cents). Taki-sensei was being nice when he said it was just a bit, haha.
- Most depressing tuba long notes ever lol. Long notes are the standard for how beginners learn because before they can even add dexterity, they need to learn how to make consistent sound and airflow with the instruments.
- Kumiko's dissatisfaction with her playing and needing to fix things is great. It really shows how much she cares.
- Other people talking about how band is hardcore is also something i'm familiar with. Watching Taki-sensei shit on her was great. It's not uncommon to hear band directors talk like that, especially with really bad performers. The way he holds them to the standards they want is just fantastic, and he is such a realist with delivering on those expectations.
- The tuba/euphonium tuning was hilarious. Just watching her struggle to match Kumiko was great!
- Mouthpiece washing is something EVERYONE should do CONSTANTLY. So much gunk gets in there and negatively impacts sound production and airflow!
- Putting her tuba down by the bell is not the best way to do that for them, however it is not uncommon. Typically they should be laid on their side, though younger players don't always understand this.
- Solfege for bands is an interesting practice. Most of the time I tend to use numbers where vocalists always use solfege. A common rehearsal technique is to get each section to sing their parts. It's not only super fun, but it helps get everyone to focus on an ideal better, because you are infinitely more dexterous with your voice than your instruments.
- The C tuning note was also correct. The boy in the group was basically singing a half-step lower lol. While A is a great pitch, it's what orchestras tune at, not band!
- Being able to visualize and internalize what you want to hear before you play it is a great teaching technique that helps break mental barriers and gives a better subconscious understanding of the sound you need to produce. The concert b-flat tuning sound is also the correct pitch used, and the correct register used in an overwhelming majority of tuners.
- A sound visualizer is also something many people use. It allows you to see the harmonics and the focus of sound with each harmonic. Each instrument is playing their proper register tuning note. Notice how he mentioned the F when the pitches are together. To my trained ears, that was something easily heard. The mathematical equation and it's relation to the physics of the construction of brass instruments are fundamentally intertwined, as it's the basis for all the open valved pitches on brass instruments and their physical construction. It's a fundamental law of sound and instrument design and sound physics, so to see Taki-sensei mention it here shows that his knowledge is totally there. Just intonation is also relevant to the ratios of pitch to harmonic frequencies, and is much better than equal temperament (e.t. is an outdated tuning system and is rarely used unless you are attending or performing in a period instrument ensemble).
- For a little rundown of the harmonic series, it's importance, and why it's relevant to this scene, check out this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(mathematics) and also this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone
- Watching them talk about the flutes was funny. That information always spreads like wildfire in bands.
- Thinking about it, it was kind of weird that the euphoniums and tubas were in sectionals together. Typically it's either all sections alone, tubas alone and trombones+euphoniums, or all of the low brass together. That the trombones were singled out shows how bad they were and how much help they needed. To count the euphoniums in the "bass" section was kind of funny to hear, since they are definitely considered a tenor voice in common-practice band orchestration.
- For his first time advising a concert band, Taki-sensei is an outstanding dude. Also Kousaka speaking freely is just great to hear, as there's always someone like that in every section! I love how frank and serious she is when it comes to music.
- She's so fucking right in that she's awesome, and it's nice to see someone recognize how effective and appropriate his methods are! She knows he's fucking great, and won't let anyone talk shit about him! Kousaka, you just became my favorite!
- Dat alto card. More correct tuning pitches and instruments here!
- Younger siblings following older siblings is majorly common in bands. It's not uncommon for them to end up in ensembles together.
- I love the little touch of Kumiko doing the breathing exercises from earlier during the PTC scene too! See, his methods are working!
- That scene with Kousaka and Kumiko was super cute and felt really genuine. Loved it.
- Dem bad lip slurs lol! It's hard for newer players to smoothly connect the sounds without any break. Midori with her bass can't sustain that because of how string instruments are played, so they usually opt for longer bowings to emulate that. Trombones also can't do this because of their slides, so they play with an extremely legato tongue to mask the fact that they can't slur pitches not in the same harmonic series or slide position (with or without thumb trigger). A side-note to this; if you've ever wondered why they have thumb triggers on the trombones and double french horns, it's to change their functioning harmonic series and instrument basic pitch. While a french horn is a horn in f, with the trigger down it becomes a horn in b-flat (uses the second set of tubing on a double french horn, look up natural horn and their crooks system to see why this is relevant). Some notes have better tone color on the b-flat side of the horn compared to the f side, and is more commonly used on the higher notes because the b-flat tubing is shorter, which means less air distance traveled for notes to come out, a tighter spot in the harmonic series, which means it's easier to play higher notes. Trombones use their trigger to play higher notes, switch to an f horn from a b-flat horn as their range is much lower than that of a french horn. The f-side tubing on a trombone is shorter in this case, which allows them easier high notes because of the more compressed harmonic series on that side of the instrument.
- Haha, "are you giving birth?" The way Asuka corrects this is indeed a proper pedagogal technique. A lot of practice off the horn and mouthpiece only (a brass only technique) is effective in teaching because it allows the player to focus on the correct lip tension, vibrations, and airflow to get the correct pitches out, without the distraction of having to press the vales first. It's basically like the intermediary step between singing your notes and playing them on the instrument, and really helps nail down efficiency.
- Taki-sensei's teaching methods worked. To hear Kumiko talk about how it became a unifying method for them shows that he got inside their heads and got them to do exactly what he wanted. This is further shown in the next scene!
- Yeah, him not using a baton is weird, especially for a concert band. Some directors only use them for performances, but only choral directors usually use their hands to conduct exclusively. The ictus that they mention is the point at which you indicate a beat of the meter and change to the next one in time. Google "conducting ictus" for some examples of conducting patterns for certain meters. As someone who took conducting classes for a year, I can definitely say that it is much harder than it looks, especially when you begin to do independent actions with each hand. To focus on the ensemble, guide them, conduct them, facilitate all the details in the score, and keep them in-tempo is a really tough job, regardless of how easy it may look. Being a good conductor is a hard fucking job.
- Dat clarinet cleaning rag is back. Fuck yeah! You have no idea how happy I am to see that.
- This is beautiful. That short puff of air into the trombone you saw/heard while he tiled down and forward? That was him emptying out his spit using his spit valve. Same goes for Kumiko.
- Yet again, staring with the clarinet tuning, moving down in register from flute to bass clarinet, then to brass from trumpets down to tuba, then to the string bass is some really great attention to detail in the sound design.
- Well-done band! And they're much better in tune this time too!
- Ahhhhhhh, they sound so much better and DAT INSTRUMENT PLAYING SAKUGA HHHNNNNNGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. The way the valves are pressed and released, the way they breathe, the bass hand positions, the vibration of the strings after she plucks (this is a march after all), the cymbals girl (using correct march technique), the bass drum girl, the instrument playing positions (all are slightly different and show the slight differences between how players hold themselves, the flute fingerings and embochure, the french horn hand positions and bell holding shot (holding on the inside as they likely would at this stage!), the eye positions and focus, the body posture in the chairs coupled with body movement while performing, the trombone slide positions, the conducting... SO FUCKING GOOD DAMN KYOANI ARE SOME FUCKING GODS HERE, JESUS. I CAME.
- The french horn girl grabbing her mouthpiece ready to throw it was funny.
- You'll also notice all of their music is correct to each part too! Someone went in and designed all the accurate sheet music for each part. You can see this on their stands that each instrument part is unique. The tempo and part names are all there too, as well as equal spacing for all of the systems, even in these panned out shots where it's tougher to see. Holy shit.
- I love how Taki-sensei held his hand at the end of the piece, to indicate they should stay silent and keep their instruments at the ready. They all follow suit and remain as they should given his direction.
- You can see on Kousaka's face that she knew they did it right. That sigh of relief.
- I love the way Taki-sensei sweats them out after too, just to see if they realize if they know what they just did.
- They're all scared shitless and and he so knows it! The way he says it's acceptable while still saying there's much work to be done is perfect for getting them to keep improving. I almost wish he played them a recording of their last reading so they could be ashamed of what they were doing.
- Also that practice schedule is great. Yes, rehearsals and the time dedication needed really is that intense almost all the time.
- Taki-sensei's encouraging words are just great. This dude is a fucking great teacher.
- I'm pretty sure that I would pay good money for some of the keyframes of the instruments they drew. The detail in the lighting and reflections of the instruments, coupled with how they're all accurately drawn is a dammed miracle. I'd love to see the instructions for lighting and the keyframes for this stuff badly.
Another really great episode again, chock-full of so much goodness! Easily the best show kyoani has put out, this is a massive labor of love with an unparalleled attention to detail. I don't think i've ever seen anything so well put together as this show, getting all the miniscule details so right all the time. I know not a lot of people can notice all these small details, but for someone like me I find it ridiculously impressive that so much research went into getting everything so accurate down to the smallest details in both visuals and sound design. I don't think i'll see another detail orientied work on this level of quality again in my entire life. Simply amazing.
AWESOMEBEAR, when it comes to shows involving music, your reviews are the only ones that truly matter.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
baka Baka BAKA
Zero is the only one where she takes the main protag as a slave and beats him with a whip though.
It's an excellent show, and you'll be glad you watched it if you do.
ThatChairMan
Member
It's easily one of my favorite series in terms of character growth and college/post-college life.
Basileus777
Member
If you don't mind troublesome portrayals of female characters and their dependencies on men, and for one character, infantilization, it's ok.
Honey and Clover is more anti-feminist than many harem shows and shoujo romances. Yet it gets constantly praised.
So you basically didnt even watch the show at all.
You need to at least finish the episode!
Also the worm pit thing is supposed to be disturbing. Its good that it disturbed you, because its fucked up and you arent supposed to side with that guy at all.
You should like Louise if you can deal with Taiga.
Louis is perhaps even more bossy, and I had a period of time when I was just sick of Rie Kugimiya being tsundere, mostly because of Shana, so I skipped out on the show before, but I eventually learned the error of my ways.
I know. I have no idea how this community will survive without getting cleansed.
Oh god I forgot thats coming out too. Anime is just going all out this summer.
Theres a lot. I think youll really enjoy it.
When Louise drops the tsun act and brings on the dere, there are few cuter, sweeter characters in existence. Plus that ED hnnngh one of the mot adorable things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6fPOJbZW2w
Symphogear G's one hell of a ride. I can't say that the show is truly top notch, but there's something which I can't really describe which endears me to the series...sort of like waiting to see what kind of plot twists this trainwreck of a show is going to throw at me? To be honest, it sorts of reminds me of Samurai Flamenco a bit...
Anyway GAF...I'm gonna have my off day tomorrow, and I'm looking for a good (and hopefully completed series) to marathon through. Here are some of the shows which I really enjoyed: (Shirobako, Girls Und Panzer, Full Metal Alchemist, Shokugeki No Soma, Ore Monogatari, Hibike Euphonium, Ouran High School Host Club), just to name a few. Any suggestions?
Cornbread78
Member
Yeah, it's still in my Crunchy queue, that was just messed up
"she's already been violated all over her body
a random little girl from the town
... I can't believe I somehow forgot Shana from the equation. But I used example because Corny had only seen Toradora so far, so there is that.
But yes, I think the order was Shana --> Louise --> Taiga. Doesn't really matter. They are all essentially the same person, only shaped a bit to fit their chosen role and station in their respective societies/worlds. Louise is the biggest bitch of 'em, but that kinda goes in hand with having a massive inferiority complex AND being a noble in a medieval world. But I think she is easily the most 'dere of them all as well, when she happens to be on the mellow side. More tsun, more dere. I guess there is a equation of sorts that has to be met when using a Kugimiya voiced Tsundere.
Yeah its 4 seasons, but well worth it by the end.
Also, Nico Nico ni is the best. She is super grumpy and bossy but that dichotomy with her idol persona is what maker her the best! Shes easily the most interesting girl in the show.
Feel the love!
<3
<3 <3
Nico I will always defend you
names2hard4you
Member
I will check Tatami Galaxy first and Honey and Clover afterwards, I will post my thoughts on here as I go along thanks for all of your input
I'm not sure if that's a fair characterization of the show. Not that I entirely disagree --
Rika's plotline is the bad kind of soap opera mess, and Hagu might as well not even be a human being
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I seem to recall the main character likes it when Louise yells at him though.
I never finished Zero and I dropped Shakugan no Shana for being kind of boring.
I never finished Zero and I dropped Shakugan no Shana for being kind of boring.
Uhhh.. No, he did not. Sakura is a longtime friend of the family. She was basically adopted in to the "family" from another distinguished line of mages in town. Too bad her actual father is a clueless moron who forgot to be a father due to being such an "outstanding" magus.
This premiers next week? DO we have an episode count?
Thats actually not so strange because Ive seen Android announcer Maico
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBAgU485Aq8
Actually if this ever got licensed I would buy it immediately. It was super cute and taking place almost entirely in the room of a radio station made it an interesting choice.
Still cant believe this is coming back. I fully enjoyed the OVA series despite it not being my usual sort of thing, so Im sure yall will love it. Its actually pretty funny too. The big monster creature almost goes chibified and super cute at times.
Yeah he voiced Ross in Armitage. He didnt exactly wow the audience but Ross isnt a very outspoken or standout character either. But thats how I remember his role in anime. I think he can work in Ushio and Tora.
Cornbread78
Member
"Adopted" huh? That's what they called it, lol.
Another excellent post. The details and insights on brass instruments, underlying science, and music education are great!
Basileus777
Member
Most of the female characters in the show lack any agency. They are all dependent on men. The main female character is even childlike in both body and mind, and
ends up in a creepy relationship with a father figure because he can best take care of her.
Yes. Each line of mages has their own magic and it is quite closely guarded secret for them. As sick as the process is, it is serving a purpose in molding her to be more compatible with the magecraft practices by the Matou family. That and service the absolutely sick tastes of the old fucker, Matou Zouken.
But really, Sakura is just a side note for the series as a whole. It just lays the groundwork (or seeing as Zero came later, acts as a kind of a prologue) for her role as the main girl of the third route of the Fate/Stay Night visual novel, Heaven's Feel. Her plight is shown because it acts as a catalyst for the previously disinterested Matou Kariya to agree to take part in the coming events
Funny. I never considered any of these points before, but just thinking about it, this does ring quite true. But I don't think it would ever stop me from saying it is a good show, since I enjoyed my time with it.
KenjiGlove
Banned
That's a pretty broad selection of shows. Just watch anything that's percieved as good and I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
If you're going to marathon though I'd reccomend giving JoJo's Bizarre Adventure a shot. It's really good and if you're able to rush through it you might just be able to catch the tail end of Part 3 and join the hype train.
Also, watch Genshiken if you want more of Mature Collage-era experience!
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