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Do you think they'll end up doing the same thing for the second cour? I really hope not, since the soundtrack doesn't deserve to be wasted like that.
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Do you think they'll end up doing the same thing for the second cour? I really hope not, since the soundtrack doesn't deserve to be wasted like that.
Hey kids! Do you like Patlabor? TOO BAD. Its DEAD. GO THE FUCK HOME.
Okay, okay, maybe Im overreacting a little bit, but give me just awhile to explain where Im at with this movie and why Im not happy about it. To do that, Im going to give just a brief rundown of how I feel about the whole series and let you go from there. As such this post serves as mainly my thoughts on the movie but also my feelings about the entire franchise.
Patlabor on Television was my first brush with this franchise, and I loved it. It introduced an incredibly well-rounded female lead, a stellar supporting cast and a well-thought-out world in which giant robots made sense and functioned and evolved in believable ways. It was perhaps the most down to earth Mecha anime Id seen, and it was funny to boot. Izumi Noa wasnt overly sexualized, she wasnt completely dependent on guys to do things for her, and at the same time she wasnt a hyper competent badass, either. She had strengths, weaknesses, moments of incredible determination and endearing vulnerability. She had important relationships with other women at the SV2 and conversations with them that were independent from men. She earned those relationships and they developed naturally. Its not hard for me to consider that Izumi is the best written woman in any anime Ive ever watched.
The New Files, then, was just as well received. It helped give closure to the whole thing for me. Sure, Gotoh never hooked up with Shinobu, but at least we got some insight into how she felt about him. Sure, Asuma never hooked up with Izumi, but at least we got to learn why hed even joined the SV2 in the first place. It was full of touching moments and action that helped to finish things off. Even series-specific character Kumagami got to develop and have her own friendship with Kanuka forged.
Early Days continued the series tone and I think that tone reached its peak in Movie 1. There were serious moments and struggles, but on the whole it was an energetic experience about the team I had known for many episodes coming together to take on a bigger challenge. The final showdown between Izumi and the possessed Zero had me on the edge of my seat.
But then I watched Movie 3 and things changed. For starters, Izumi and Asuma were reduced to cameos. There was CGI. BAD CGI. The entire plot was centered on two side characters who were of minimal importance to the TV series, OVAs, and first movie. Theres a sequence in the first movie where these two side characters are doing legwork to track down the villain. This movie felt a lot like that sequence stretched into an entire film, and it wasnt fun. It wasnt bad, it was just incredibly dull.
The film centered on their investigation into a serial killing where the serial killer was a giant penis monster made out of cancer cells. I dont think any major Patlabor character featured in this film for more than ten minutes total. The entire experience wouldve been surreal had it not been so dull. But what I didnt know was that a lot of it was also a sign of things I could expect in the next movie. Where Patlabor 1 was colorful and energetic, Patlabor 2 was bleak, washed out and oppressive.
The plot of Patlabor 2 centers on a terrorist attempting to plunge Tokyo or Japan into a civil war. He developed the idea of military grade Labors and watched the first team of them die when HQ sat on its ass and did nothing. Not surprisingly, a whole lot of nothing happens in this movie because the events of the film are part of his orchestrated attempt to make all of Japan feel what he felt in that moment.
I cant rightly tell you that this movie is bad. It probably isnt. But I didnt really like it, either. In a way, it reminded me of Zeta Gundam, if Tominos method of getting fans to let go of Gundam had been something other than murdering the entire cast of Gundam. Because this movie is most certainly about letting go. The main villain is a man, after all, who cannot let go of what happened to him.
To put it bluntly, it felt to me like the point of this movie was to convince the audience to let go of Patlabor and to do that by framing the entire thing as one giant set up to Captain Gotoh letting go of his long-time attraction to Captain Nagumo. I feel that every aspect of this movie reflects these two main points, and I will attempt to explain that.
The movie uses a sort of grey-scale palette of colors to create a sort of repressed setting. This setting represents both the writers feelings of entrapment by the franchise and Gotohs own imprisonment within his interest in Shinobu. The seeds of the eventual emotional divorce are sown early on: Shinobu has received a promotion, the entire crew of the SV2 has moved on to other jobs, Izumi isnt piloting Alphonse, and, most important of all, Shinobu suddenly has a long lost love interest. This is important for two reasons: the first is that this lost flame is the films central antagonist and figures heavily into the split between Shinobu and Gotoh and the second is that this character has never once been mentioned in any other Patlabor work. Combining the two together leads me to feel that the character must have been introduced for this purpose.
All of these elements represent the way the writer feels about the work. Izumis not piloting Alphonse anymore because Oshii isnt interested in writing about it happening anymore. At one point she goes so far as to say I dont want to be known as the girl whos interested in giant robots my whole life. And if thats not a statement about wanting to move on from this franchise, I dont know what is. Everywhere you look in the movie the cast has moved on. Shinshi has a baby and a desk job, Otas training cadets, The Old Mans retired with Shige taking over his job, Kanukas in America, and so on. Everybodys moved on, and its time we did, too.
A major moment in the film is a protracted dialogue between Gotoh and one of the Japanese Intelligence agency members debating the difference between Unjust Peace and Just War. In the film this is a commentary on the present situation, but in the context weve been discussing it takes on a different meaning. It becomes a consideration of Gotohs relationship with Shinobu. It clearly isnt a sincere and just relationship, since Gotohs attraction to Shinobu frequently puts him at a disadvantage to her, whilst Shinobus ironwalled attitude creates the situations where she can take advantage of him whether she realizes it or not. At one point in the film she exclaims I see now just how much your promise to me meant to you! which is a painfully harsh condemnation of a man who has at numerous points gone well out of his way to help and cover for her. The Just War would be the very deserved enmity that could come of such a friendship. The conversations meaning then boils down to this: Is it okay for Gotoh to continue to pine for Shinobu in silence if it means that he may someday come to hate her openly? Is it okay for Oshii to keep making Patlabor movies when he doesnt really want to if it means making fans happy? Even though one day he will come to hate Patlabor if he does?
As the movie carries on, Shinobus trust in Gotoh continues to deteriorate despite the fact that her own actions are just as if not even more questionable than his own. At every step she makes terrible decisions because she once loved Tsuge and isnt over him yet. Shinobu cant move on and that creates huge problems for Gotoh. She trails Tsuge into a trap on a boat without telling anyone, but when she sees his face she loses her nerve and he slips out of her fingers. In this same scene her relationship deteriorates even further when a horde of cops arrive because Gotoh tipped them off (even though it was her mother who called him, worried about her). The film is full of instances of Gotoh going to great lengths to try and help Shinobu and at every turn being rebuffed by her.
The movies climax comes when Shinobu confronts Tsuge as the reassembled SV2 dismantles his operations. She quotes to him a verse from The Bible in which The Lord warns that He will divide the people. This verse refers to Tsuges plan to turn Japan into war on itself, but also to the state of contradiction Shinobu finds herself in with the men in her life and the fans and Oshii find themselves in. As the movie closes, the villain, Tsuge, still cannot move on from the franchise, discussing what will happen in the films future. Gotoh, however, upon seeing that Shinobu has yet to actually move on from Tsuge, turns his eyes to the celebrating SV2 and remarks I guess, in the end, theyre all I really have. This symbolizes that after 50 episodes and numerous ovas and movies, Gotoh has at last let go of his attraction to Shinobu and moved on from her. Now it is time for the fans and the writer to let go as well and move on with their lives.
EXCEPT that Gotoh doesnt have them, either. Sure, they came when he called, but theyre not around anymore. Sure he can rely on them in a pinch but theres nothing else in this movie to really indicate that Gotoh spends time with them the way he used to or talks to them very much at all. We never actually see him interact with any of them, and even at the end he is physically far away from them. So for me, at least, the ending isnt Gotoh moves on and is instead Gotoh is abandoned by everyone which is almost as horrible and depressing as the rest of the movie.
I wont say this was a bad movie, but I wont say it was one I enjoyed either. I cannot help but hate a movie that builds itself entirely around depressing the audience into moving on from it. I cannot bring myself to like a film so blatantly devoid of interest in what made the franchise great that it actively avoids it. Like Patlabor III theres barely any mecha fighting going on, and most of the cast are absent. Its just 2 long, dreary hours of Oshii attempting to convince fans that theres nothing left to see by draining their will to carry on. And thats my generous opinion of the film. In the heat of the moment Im tempted to write the entire production off as it being the worlds longest and gloomiest NTR, in which we watch the hero quietly sit by and lose the woman of his dreams to a mass murderer as she herself suddenly becomes colder and bitchier than shes ever been before simply to hammer an artificial wedge between them and really bludgeon the point that HEY ITS OVER MOVE THE FUCK ON KIDDOS into your heads.
Patlabor II is grey, depressing, and a lot like riding a slow moving, flat rollercoaster in a rainstorm. You dont go anywhere and youve had a net value of negative fun by the end. Id compare it to death by asphyxiation except Im pretty sure thats more colorful than this film was. I dont think Patlabor II was bad, but I fucking hate it just the same.
Okay, okay, maybe Im overreacting a little bit, but give me just awhile to explain where Im at with this movie and why Im not happy about it. To do that, Im going to give just a brief rundown of how I feel about the whole series and let you go from there. As such this post serves as mainly my thoughts on the movie but also my feelings about the entire franchise.
Patlabor on Television was my first brush with this franchise, and I loved it. It introduced an incredibly well-rounded female lead, a stellar supporting cast and a well-thought-out world in which giant robots made sense and functioned and evolved in believable ways. It was perhaps the most down to earth Mecha anime Id seen, and it was funny to boot. Izumi Noa wasnt overly sexualized, she wasnt completely dependent on guys to do things for her, and at the same time she wasnt a hyper competent badass, either. She had strengths, weaknesses, moments of incredible determination and endearing vulnerability. She had important relationships with other women at the SV2 and conversations with them that were independent from men. She earned those relationships and they developed naturally. Its not hard for me to consider that Izumi is the best written woman in any anime Ive ever watched.
The New Files, then, was just as well received. It helped give closure to the whole thing for me. Sure, Gotoh never hooked up with Shinobu, but at least we got some insight into how she felt about him. Sure, Asuma never hooked up with Izumi, but at least we got to learn why hed even joined the SV2 in the first place. It was full of touching moments and action that helped to finish things off. Even series-specific character Kumagami got to develop and have her own friendship with Kanuka forged.
Early Days continued the series tone and I think that tone reached its peak in Movie 1. There were serious moments and struggles, but on the whole it was an energetic experience about the team I had known for many episodes coming together to take on a bigger challenge. The final showdown between Izumi and the possessed Zero had me on the edge of my seat.
But then I watched Movie 3 and things changed. For starters, Izumi and Asuma were reduced to cameos. There was CGI. BAD CGI. The entire plot was centered on two side characters who were of minimal importance to the TV series, OVAs, and first movie. Theres a sequence in the first movie where these two side characters are doing legwork to track down the villain. This movie felt a lot like that sequence stretched into an entire film, and it wasnt fun. It wasnt bad, it was just incredibly dull.
The film centered on their investigation into a serial killing where the serial killer was a giant penis monster made out of cancer cells. I dont think any major Patlabor character featured in this film for more than ten minutes total. The entire experience wouldve been surreal had it not been so dull. But what I didnt know was that a lot of it was also a sign of things I could expect in the next movie. Where Patlabor 1 was colorful and energetic, Patlabor 2 was bleak, washed out and oppressive.
The plot of Patlabor 2 centers on a terrorist attempting to plunge Tokyo or Japan into a civil war. He developed the idea of military grade Labors and watched the first team of them die when HQ sat on its ass and did nothing. Not surprisingly, a whole lot of nothing happens in this movie because the events of the film are part of his orchestrated attempt to make all of Japan feel what he felt in that moment.
I cant rightly tell you that this movie is bad. It probably isnt. But I didnt really like it, either. In a way, it reminded me of Zeta Gundam, if Tominos method of getting fans to let go of Gundam had been something other than murdering the entire cast of Gundam. Because this movie is most certainly about letting go. The main villain is a man, after all, who cannot let go of what happened to him.
To put it bluntly, it felt to me like the point of this movie was to convince the audience to let go of Patlabor and to do that by framing the entire thing as one giant set up to Captain Gotoh letting go of his long-time attraction to Captain Nagumo. I feel that every aspect of this movie reflects these two main points, and I will attempt to explain that.
The movie uses a sort of grey-scale palette of colors to create a sort of repressed setting. This setting represents both the writers feelings of entrapment by the franchise and Gotohs own imprisonment within his interest in Shinobu. The seeds of the eventual emotional divorce are sown early on: Shinobu has received a promotion, the entire crew of the SV2 has moved on to other jobs, Izumi isnt piloting Alphonse, and, most important of all, Shinobu suddenly has a long lost love interest. This is important for two reasons: the first is that this lost flame is the films central antagonist and figures heavily into the split between Shinobu and Gotoh and the second is that this character has never once been mentioned in any other Patlabor work. Combining the two together leads me to feel that the character must have been introduced for this purpose.
All of these elements represent the way the writer feels about the work. Izumis not piloting Alphonse anymore because Oshii isnt interested in writing about it happening anymore. At one point she goes so far as to say I dont want to be known as the girl whos interested in giant robots my whole life. And if thats not a statement about wanting to move on from this franchise, I dont know what is. Everywhere you look in the movie the cast has moved on. Shinshi has a baby and a desk job, Otas training cadets, The Old Mans retired with Shige taking over his job, Kanukas in America, and so on. Everybodys moved on, and its time we did, too.
A major moment in the film is a protracted dialogue between Gotoh and one of the Japanese Intelligence agency members debating the difference between Unjust Peace and Just War. In the film this is a commentary on the present situation, but in the context weve been discussing it takes on a different meaning. It becomes a consideration of Gotohs relationship with Shinobu. It clearly isnt a sincere and just relationship, since Gotohs attraction to Shinobu frequently puts him at a disadvantage to her, whilst Shinobus ironwalled attitude creates the situations where she can take advantage of him whether she realizes it or not. At one point in the film she exclaims I see now just how much your promise to me meant to you! which is a painfully harsh condemnation of a man who has at numerous points gone well out of his way to help and cover for her. The Just War would be the very deserved enmity that could come of such a friendship. The conversations meaning then boils down to this: Is it okay for Gotoh to continue to pine for Shinobu in silence if it means that he may someday come to hate her openly? Is it okay for Oshii to keep making Patlabor movies when he doesnt really want to if it means making fans happy? Even though one day he will come to hate Patlabor if he does?
As the movie carries on, Shinobus trust in Gotoh continues to deteriorate despite the fact that her own actions are just as if not even more questionable than his own. At every step she makes terrible decisions because she once loved Tsuge and isnt over him yet. Shinobu cant move on and that creates huge problems for Gotoh. She trails Tsuge into a trap on a boat without telling anyone, but when she sees his face she loses her nerve and he slips out of her fingers. In this same scene her relationship deteriorates even further when a horde of cops arrive because Gotoh tipped them off (even though it was her mother who called him, worried about her). The film is full of instances of Gotoh going to great lengths to try and help Shinobu and at every turn being rebuffed by her.
The movies climax comes when Shinobu confronts Tsuge as the reassembled SV2 dismantles his operations. She quotes to him a verse from The Bible in which The Lord warns that He will divide the people. This verse refers to Tsuges plan to turn Japan into war on itself, but also to the state of contradiction Shinobu finds herself in with the men in her life and the fans and Oshii find themselves in. As the movie closes, the villain, Tsuge, still cannot move on from the franchise, discussing what will happen in the films future. Gotoh, however, upon seeing that Shinobu has yet to actually move on from Tsuge, turns his eyes to the celebrating SV2 and remarks I guess, in the end, theyre all I really have. This symbolizes that after 50 episodes and numerous ovas and movies, Gotoh has at last let go of his attraction to Shinobu and moved on from her. Now it is time for the fans and the writer to let go as well and move on with their lives.
EXCEPT that Gotoh doesnt have them, either. Sure, they came when he called, but theyre not around anymore. Sure he can rely on them in a pinch but theres nothing else in this movie to really indicate that Gotoh spends time with them the way he used to or talks to them very much at all. We never actually see him interact with any of them, and even at the end he is physically far away from them. So for me, at least, the ending isnt Gotoh moves on and is instead Gotoh is abandoned by everyone which is almost as horrible and depressing as the rest of the movie.
I wont say this was a bad movie, but I wont say it was one I enjoyed either. I cannot help but hate a movie that builds itself entirely around depressing the audience into moving on from it. I cannot bring myself to like a film so blatantly devoid of interest in what made the franchise great that it actively avoids it. Like Patlabor III theres barely any mecha fighting going on, and most of the cast are absent. Its just 2 long, dreary hours of Oshii attempting to convince fans that theres nothing left to see by draining their will to carry on. And thats my generous opinion of the film. In the heat of the moment Im tempted to write the entire production off as it being the worlds longest and gloomiest NTR, in which we watch the hero quietly sit by and lose the woman of his dreams to a mass murderer as she herself suddenly becomes colder and bitchier than shes ever been before simply to hammer an artificial wedge between them and really bludgeon the point that HEY ITS OVER MOVE THE FUCK ON KIDDOS into your heads.
Patlabor II is grey, depressing, and a lot like riding a slow moving, flat rollercoaster in a rainstorm. You dont go anywhere and youve had a net value of negative fun by the end. Id compare it to death by asphyxiation except Im pretty sure thats more colorful than this film was. I dont think Patlabor II was bad, but I fucking hate it just the same.
Well, let's hope it gets better in the second season.
The new episode comes out today, right? Just finished the first episode of Owari no Seraph. Damn, the pacing is so slow in this one. I guess imma watch the next one and gonna drop it if it's still such a snorefest. Really not feeling this one. :\
Ah, that explains it I guess.
I saw the new episode earlier today and I can say that this is happening in the 2nd cour as well, I'm sure though given what's to come in the show that the intensity of the new tracks should offset the issue somewhat.
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Is It Wrong to Try and Pick Up Girls in a Dunegon - 01
Already way better than all the harems from last season by a long shot. All the girls are super cute (with good, attractive character design) so far, and the premise/world is neat.
Well Im sold. More.
Im so ready for LWA2. Also dammit I shoulda been there. Houston is only 3 hours away.
YES. Watch Cross ange! Its quite entertaining. You will hate almost everybody including Ange but thats part of the fun.
Its quite fun to watch
I would have to agree. Shaft really knows what theyre doing when it comes to food.
I know people like to make fun of them but Shaft knows how to make things interesting consistently.
[Shokugeki no Soma] 1
Ok ok Im gonna watch it!
Dedication Through Light
Member
Yu-Gi-Oh! ARC-V Episode 49
Yuuya oniichan v Sora was the best fight in weeks. Action duels are always so good when both players are willing to risk it all to get the Action cards in the middle of attacks. The first set was especially good. Sora deck is perfect for this type of dueling and Yuuya oniichans too. I love the Deathtoys and Furnimals, epic combo mid duel. And the overlay network as well.
Also, Reira is good duelist hope he gets a large role later on.
Yuuya oniichan v Sora was the best fight in weeks. Action duels are always so good when both players are willing to risk it all to get the Action cards in the middle of attacks. The first set was especially good. Sora deck is perfect for this type of dueling and Yuuya oniichans too. I love the Deathtoys and Furnimals, epic combo mid duel. And the overlay network as well.
Also, Reira is good duelist hope he gets a large role later on.
Draining like a vampire attack, maybe.
I mean, the overwhelming majority of the good Patlabor characters aren't even IN this movie. You have Gotoh and Shinobu and that's it. And Shinobu's been turned into a cold ass bitch queen because sudden shitty exboyfriend happens.
The fact that fatass mcdetective is one of the major players in the plot while MOST of SV2 aren't in this movie leaves me reeling.
First OP wasn't bad! Have yet to watch this one though.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
I can see someone not liking Patlabor 2 if what they care about the franchise is just the characters or the titular mecha, considering most of them barely show up during the film. But as someone who appreciates the delicate, moody atmosphere Oshii brought to the first film, I was happy to find it in even stronger force here. I think it's a really powerful film about what can happen when military and technology run amok and it's my personal favorite out of all of Oshii's films.
Hestia is bestia
names2hard4you
Member
And here I am stuck at work... Sigh.Yay FSN UBW is up!!
I marathoned that show and then slept like a baby. either Im just desensitized or Im a monster.
Haibane Renmei can really put an emotional toll on you. It hits pretty hard.
WE DID IT ZACHY!
Noooooooooooooooooo
I will miss this show
Well several people did warn that this was the case.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Danmachi first episode is good, but it maybe not for long because anime script writer is that Date a Live anime guy...
Well hope he can prove i'm wrong this time.
Well hope he can prove i'm wrong this time.
F/SN UBW 13
Feels like we're picking up right where we left off. The new OP and ED are both pretty good, and while Archer's going into the danger zone, having already seen at least the movie, I know what's going to happen. The Rin and Shiro scene was nice, too. I know a lot of people are looking forward to the back half for the action, but without some buildup, that action won't land. Plus I can't unsee Kuzuki as anything but the Cinderella Girls producer now.
Feels like we're picking up right where we left off. The new OP and ED are both pretty good, and while Archer's going into the danger zone, having already seen at least the movie, I know what's going to happen. The Rin and Shiro scene was nice, too. I know a lot of people are looking forward to the back half for the action, but without some buildup, that action won't land. Plus I can't unsee Kuzuki as anything but the Cinderella Girls producer now.
I'm also looking forward to Gilgamesh getting defeated twice this year.
CheapJuice
Member
Gunslinger Stratos - 01
ehhh so this is based on some Square Enix game, I don't have a good feeling about this.
Last third was slightly better, so I'm probably going to see the next one before I completely write if off, just in case if this for some miracle reason becomes good. ED song was good though!
ehhh so this is based on some Square Enix game, I don't have a good feeling about this.
Last third was slightly better, so I'm probably going to see the next one before I completely write if off, just in case if this for some miracle reason becomes good. ED song was good though!
is that what I think it is
welcome buddyBtw, hi AnimeGAF, I'm new here
PshycoNinja
Member
Damn...
that's some cool packaging they did there.
J
Jpop
Unconfirmed Member
Danmachi - 01
Holy shit yes. Goddess too cute. World seems interesting. MC and Goddess better get together at the end, they're an adorable couple.
Please let this be good. Pleeeeeeease.
Hestia is bestia.
See, I dunno. I feel like the first film had a good control of it's mood and the second and third films just dumped a shittton of grey in there for bleak's sake. And Patlabor hasn't until these last two movies been a particularly moody work. It doesn't feel much like Patlabor at all when the cast of Patlabor and labors themselves are absent and the tone is completely different than all previous entries I'd viewed.
It's why I'm convinced the point was to get the audience to quit wanting Patlabor, because it didn't feel like Patlabor in the slightest. I also feel like the first film handled the concept of technology run amok better, with the Old Man's comments to Gotoh about the way he couldn't keep up with new tech, the concept of an OS running amok and the fact that end of the movie was all about stopping machines from going berserk and destroying the city.
The second movie barely talked about any of that stuff. It just droned about war and peace while robot blimps spewed fake toxic gas as Gotoh got ripped off by the universe. It wasn't nearly as focused on this point.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Gunslinger Stratos Episode 1
Ought to have just started at the enter the other world part. It was significantly more exciting than the beginning life stuff. Love the magic and technology in this world and the "other self" character design. Will keep watching.
Ought to have just started at the enter the other world part. It was significantly more exciting than the beginning life stuff. Love the magic and technology in this world and the "other self" character design. Will keep watching.
PshycoNinja
Member
I was one of the few who actually went in not knowing how it all ends and even watched the completely uncensored version where you see what happens and all the sounds of
slicing bodies open
I really liked Haibane Renmei. It's really grown on me over time. Really glad I did that watchbet.
I had a really different perspective on this movie, considering that at the time I saw it, the prior film was my only experience with the franchise. Because of that, while it was tough watching everyone in SV2 drift apart, it didn't strike me with anywhere near the same kind of vehemence that it did for you. Oshii takes a wider focus with the second movie, making Tokyo, with its growing paranoia and uncertainty, a central character in his drama. The movie's unknown, suffocating sense of threat without real catharsis is exactly the kind of mood, the kind of so-called peace, that he wishes to criticize through the film. And it's very, very different from the mood of its cinematic predecessor.
I can't exactly blame you for feeling betrayed that Oshii took this second film in the franchise to make something that was both very different from Patlabor and an active move to break down the character relationships that bound the team and the franchise together. It was the kind of mood he was in at the time (he almost was given the reigns to make a Lupin film where Lupin didn't appear because he stole "the movie" from the audience). But I think that, on its own terms, it's a very interesting movie that builds on its predecessor's ideas of how "progress" tries to forget and leave things behind, and what happens when that which is forgotten makes itself known. Its political commentary on how the militaries of developed nations try to make themselves feel safe, as meaningful as it was to Japan's situation at the time the film was made, still feels extraordinarily relevant today.
Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon 1
Only watched it for the title. Fantasy light novel tripe. Nothing particularly engaging despite a mildly interesting premise. Pass unless it gets really good impressions later.
Re-Kan! 1
It's alright? Vaguely amusing, but you can tell it's adapted from a 4koma. May give a second shot.
Only watched it for the title. Fantasy light novel tripe. Nothing particularly engaging despite a mildly interesting premise. Pass unless it gets really good impressions later.
Re-Kan! 1
It's alright? Vaguely amusing, but you can tell it's adapted from a 4koma. May give a second shot.
Regarding the new Haruhi Suzumiya show, which I haven't read much about-- is it any good?
I liked the previous seasons and the movies, and I read all the light novels and liked most of that too. Does it still follow the novels?
I have a sneaking suspicion it's some odd fanservice season which may destroy my likings for the series forever. Is that true?
I also hear there's a new Gargantia season. I liked the first season but don't see how it can reasonably continued, is it stupid as I imagine?
EDIT: I should note that I like both for their scifi elements, rather than whatever else they try to push in there.
I liked the previous seasons and the movies, and I read all the light novels and liked most of that too. Does it still follow the novels?
I have a sneaking suspicion it's some odd fanservice season which may destroy my likings for the series forever. Is that true?
I also hear there's a new Gargantia season. I liked the first season but don't see how it can reasonably continued, is it stupid as I imagine?
EDIT: I should note that I like both for their scifi elements, rather than whatever else they try to push in there.
Plastic Memories 01
The premise kinda reminds me of a sci-fi version of Momo, The Girl God of Death, but crossed with a workplace sitcom. Androids and how they live, what this means compared to humans, it can cover some well-trod but interesting things here. And even though it deals with a digital form of death, it still keeps a very light tone in order to not let the sadness completely overwhelm things. Plus it has that really bright, popping color palette. I suspect the cases will only get tougher as the show goes on, but one easy one and one hard one give a good idea of what this show is going to be like.
Sci-fi's not all about logic and futurism. You can't have either of those things without some emotions, and this series looks to be entirely about navigating the trickiest thing of all - human emotions and attachment. Like AI, but less likely to give me nightmares. Seriously, those aliens were creepy.
The premise kinda reminds me of a sci-fi version of Momo, The Girl God of Death, but crossed with a workplace sitcom. Androids and how they live, what this means compared to humans, it can cover some well-trod but interesting things here. And even though it deals with a digital form of death, it still keeps a very light tone in order to not let the sadness completely overwhelm things. Plus it has that really bright, popping color palette. I suspect the cases will only get tougher as the show goes on, but one easy one and one hard one give a good idea of what this show is going to be like.
Sci-fi's not all about logic and futurism. You can't have either of those things without some emotions, and this series looks to be entirely about navigating the trickiest thing of all - human emotions and attachment. Like AI, but less likely to give me nightmares. Seriously, those aliens were creepy.
Theonik
Member
That butt though.
phoenix296
Member
Backlog season? Backlog season. Only series I'll probably follow is Nisekoi out of some twisted obligation to continue watching because I finished the first. Need to finish up Shirobako, Parasyte, Ronja, Xenoglossia and Mushishi. Maybe get back to Aria.
Ugh, forgot how gross the saber scene was with how weak and provocative her posture is during this scene. They could've shown it better but it is using the source material so :/. Overall episode kicks things off as the later half gets more action paced and with rising quality from here on out. I like the op and Ed better than the first ones. Sad they didn't use this song for the end scene. http://youtu.be/3L1DEvzsftw
I do begin to think that my reaction is in part because I saw this thing last of all. Had I finished on movie 1 and never watched it, I'd have been happier, and if I'd only seen the movies, I might still have been happier. Maybe it's my exposure to the TV series where there was never anything this oppressive and where the focus was upon the lives of the cast, but I just kind of feel a story as markedly hopeless as this felt. This movie feels like if Kanuka had died at the end of the last movie and the whole point of the last movie had been telling you Kanuka didn't need to live anyway and at the end hey that's life sometimes you just have to kill your friend.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I tend to agree. I was disappointed by this episode. The faces were bad too as you pointed out.
The ending scene was cute though. Overall, not the best episode in the series but looking forward to more of it.
The new Haruhi is based on a weird spin-off manga based upon the alternate world posited in the movie where Yuki is a normal, if shy, girl, as opposed to anything that could be considered canonical. I'm not sure if "fanservice" is exactly right, having not read the manga in-bulk, but until (if) Tanigawa gets over whatever writers block has been causing him so many problems for the last decade, it's all you are going to get.
As far as Gargantia goes, they made some OAV episodes, but apparently they've just announced that they've canned the second TV series, and that story will now only exist as a novel which probably doesn't stand a snowballs chance of ever being translated.
It's not fanservice, but it's basically a series set in the alternate "Disappearance" universe. There aren't zero sci-fi elements, but they are greatly reduced and don't show up at all until later. It's a romcom starring the alternate universe's Yuki Nagato.
hosannainexcelsis
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1. The Disappearance of Yuki Nagato is an adaptation of a spinoff manga focusing on alternate universe Nagato from the Disappearance of Haruhi book/movie. It does not feature sci-fi elements and is not closely linked to the main novel series. Nagato blushing/pairing with Kyon is the main focus.
2. There is no new Gargantia season. There was one in the works, but it was scrapped and turned into a novel instead.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Aimer was the best part of the FSN episode today, great op. Shirou did good too and nice plot. Decent start.
So it's a Fate/Show then?
ThatChairMan
Member
F/SN UBW 13
Decent episode to come back to. If I had one thing against this episode, it was how oddly paced the transition between scenes were. Rin and Archer at the park in the morning, immediately cuts to Rin and Archer at the church in the afternoon, immediately cuts into Shirou sneaking into the church, with Rin and Caster barely starting their confrontation, at night.
Decent episode to come back to. If I had one thing against this episode, it was how oddly paced the transition between scenes were. Rin and Archer at the park in the morning, immediately cuts to Rin and Archer at the church in the afternoon, immediately cuts into Shirou sneaking into the church, with Rin and Caster barely starting their confrontation, at night.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Holy hell, UtaPri's harem is up to 11 guys, and the new episode spent 16 minutes out of its 24 minute running time re-introducing every single one of them. It's probably the most impressive harem ever, with basically every trope possible being covered. Given that this thing is so popular with the fujis, I can only imagine that they'll just keep adding more guys to this harem. lol
But hey, at last the last few minutes were all Wakamoto hamming it up and rolling his consonants in the only way that he can.
But hey, at last the last few minutes were all Wakamoto hamming it up and rolling his consonants in the only way that he can.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I should watch Patlabor. Was the second movie the one with the cut of the helicopter shooting the radio tower? Because that shit looked amazing.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
But we do that every day
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