Seems like TR did fine though
Square-Enix trying to sell off IO Interactive (Hitman)
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Seems like TR did fine though
Well, different cases. United Front was an independent studio
IOI is not closing (at least yet)
Muffin1611
Banned
The last Hitman was a technical mess on PC, doubly so if you were an AMD user.
Still sad for the series for this to happen.
Still sad for the series for this to happen.
LordOfLore
Banned
They're probably counting season 2 in it.
Sad Affleck
Member
I want Ubisoft to buy them and give them the keys to Assassin's Creed. Seems like a perfect fit.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Of course he partly said that because their own SP games didn't do too great, but I still think he has a point. I am not surprised Doom did well, that name alone means something. Did Nier and Nioh really do well? Didn't know that, that's good. But a shame games like Dishonored 2, Prey, Deus Ex MD didn't and I didn't even mention Sunset Overdrive or QB while not perfect still really enjoyable.
Really hope IO finds a good home because I'm sure they can make something really similar to Hitman, the things that made it so damn good..... It Just can't be using Agent 47 sadly though. Fucking hell!
Them taking over Splinter Cell would be pretty sweet too.
How does this work, it's not even out yet?
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Hold on...where is this said?
Sad Affleck
Member
Oh yeah, definitely!
they sold more than that actually, the ~630K number is Steam only
not sure if that is full season or only intro pack tho
Dick Justice
Banned
Fuck off, Square.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Doom did not sell well enough to meet Bethesda's expectations. Online is gonna happen. This is whats selling the most. This is whats defining this generation.
I'm just grossly paraphrasing their statement in the OP with finding "new investors" and how it's in the "best interests" of everyone involved.
DoctorFling
Member
That ain't right. I didn't get a chance to play the new Hitman but that series must live on.
Turin Turambar
Member
I can only suppose the online part made them lose some units in the first months.
But ironically, 600k is also the amount sold on Steam of another well received stealth-action game, Dishonored 2. And that one didn't have the same level of online DRM.
So maybe that's the market now for these types of games. As pitiful as it is.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Wait, Doom failed to meet expectations?
Why should they? It sucks but this is a business and to them Hitman just isn't doing enough for them. At least not on par with their other projects.
Absolution was pretty much a Splinter Cell game...
But yea, Ubisoft or maybe Microsoft would be a good fit with the online/episodic model of Hitman.
IO was poaching talent from Massive just last year.
Turin Turambar
Member
Their expectations are in amount of $, not in amount of units sold. They sold lots of units, but most at discounted price.
And? Them making a Splinter Cell game under the Splinter Cell name, won't annoy people expecting a Hitman game.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
This!
But isn't the majority of the reviews positive though? I saw it stands at 80 now. Should be higher but that's definitely not too bad. But I agree man, there is very little, well nothing so far for me, wrong with this game. Interesting story with mysteries that keep you playing and guessing what is happening next, really cool enemies. Yep I actually like their Mimics, very nice level design with lots of reasons to go exploring and so on.
Prey must be played!
7DollarHagane
Banned
Could be a good thing for IO long term if they can stick out this rough patch and find a buyer.
Square enix is a shitty publisher and the more studios escape to better managed companies the better.
Square enix is a shitty publisher and the more studios escape to better managed companies the better.
Scully Scully Scoo
Member
To the people crying about its episodic nature, why not just purchase the complete season?
Hitman is the 1 game where episodic release actually works.
Hitman is the 1 game where episodic release actually works.
Magic Mushroom
Member
First time I hear of it.
Maintenance
Member
Always online plus episodic meant double pass to me, doesn't matter how good the game was.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Assassin's Creed would fit the "Hide in the open" concept of Hitman perfectly tbh.
I played almost 100 hours of it. If the game came as a complete package that number would probably be in the 20s.
Amazing fit.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I swear this Marvel deal continues to be a Monkey's Paw wish.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Phil Spencer wants to test Game Pass' viability as a platform for episodic SP games. You might as well do it with Hitman.
what would this mean for the IP's associated with IO? would they be able to work on a new hitman for a different publisher? or have they lost it now? what likelihood is there of square themselves making use of it?
this is some seriously shitty news tbh. yet another unique game potentially dead. i mean, they could always make a spiritual successor with another bald guy called agent 37 and call it silent assassin, but it's all kinda of bullshit that a devs mainstay bread and butter IP can be lost so easily due to acquisition.
this is some seriously shitty news tbh. yet another unique game potentially dead. i mean, they could always make a spiritual successor with another bald guy called agent 37 and call it silent assassin, but it's all kinda of bullshit that a devs mainstay bread and butter IP can be lost so easily due to acquisition.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Bethesda has to see that those $20-30 doom sales with positive impressions mean a high quality sequel with better multiplayer and co op would sell much better at launch.
I feel like wolfenstein is the same way - soft launch sales, but great reviews and word of mouth lead to long tail sales at lower price. That builds a base of peoppe who remember a positive experience with the previous iteration.
Oldest Snake
Member
SE own the Hitman IP, it stays with them when IO go.
Exploratory
Banned
Stealth games cannot be made anymore. That's just the very sad reality.
Deus Ex as a franchise has already been canned by SE
7DollarHagane
Banned
Yup. I paid my $60 at launch. Guess not many did. Should have been a last year spring or this year spring title.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Gotta finance Nomura doing who-knows-what for the next 15 years somehow.
People are just sayin it was probably a turn off and I do think that played a part of it.
Also I hear no one talking about this game outside of this forum.
Wow. Force the episodic format on IO, then don't promote the full release and then get rid of IO for mistakes you've made. Sounds like some classic Eidos bullshit, alright. Let's hope IO don't end up like Core Design.
From a commercial standpoint maybe. From a creative integrity standpoint, Tomb Raider has been dead in the water for years.
From a commercial standpoint maybe. From a creative integrity standpoint, Tomb Raider has been dead in the water for years.
This guy gets it
And you think that matters? It's a business. TR sold well for SE they stated this.
My immediate thought is that Warner Bros. would be the best fit for IOI. But being an AAA studio in Denmark is near impossible as-is, so I wonder if anyone will want to buy them. I guess being turned into a support studio for The Division or Assassin's Creed is also a very real option, since Ubisoft seems to be focusing on bolstering its numbers, but this would be a very expensive support studio.
I never said it mattered to Square, no. But you were replying to a post that suggested the Western side of Square was getting the shorter end of the stick and neither that post nor yours specified that that only referred to the commercial side of things so me talking about the games' quality is perfectly valid.
Hatefilled Vengeance
Member
Yeah, seems like a great fit. And if they can't get the IP, I'd love to see them experiment and give IO Perfect Dark.