STALKER: Clear Sky - review thread

Vaporak said:
Hmm, I wonder what their issues with it were.

Yeah, me too. There's a lot of annoying little things they could have fixed between games. But I don't know how they could make things more annoying... they'd almost have to try. :>
 
Some people on quartertothree are saying the game is lacking lot's of the creepy stuff from the first one. I'm going to wait for more reviews before I buy this.
 
The Edge review is thoroughly positive- or at least it tries to be. Reminding you a handful of times that the game is flawed with regard to grenades and instances of bad AI.

"Stalker's uncanny corner of the world, full of howling mutants, improvised creeds and dark intrigue holds undiminished power in what is, unsurprisingly, a troubled prequel"

On the much loved radio system: "It is, in what bring brings out the best of this game, just another excuse to lurk indefinitely in the Zone, bedding into its society and learning how to survive"
They affirm this is still a hardcore RPG, a true survival horror- adding that the underground sections never reach the heights of the original but are still "terrifying".
 
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky Limited Edition - GAME Exclusive (£29.99)
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The normal edition is going for £17.99.

Just how many SE are europe getting?
 
Visualante said:
The Edge review is thoroughly positive- or at least it tries to be. Reminding you a handful of times that the game is flawed with regard to grenades and instances of bad AI.

"Stalker's uncanny corner of the world, full of howling mutants, improvised creeds and dark intrigue holds undiminished power in what is, unsurprisingly, a troubled prequel"

On the much loved radio system: "It is, in what bring brings out the best of this game, just another excuse to lurk indefinitely in the Zone, bedding into its society and learning how to survive"
They affirm this is still a hardcore RPG, a true survival horror- adding that the underground sections never reach the heights of the original but are still "terrifying".


Hmm those are nice impressions. I'm so conflicted on this atm. I'll wait to see what Shawn Elliott says because his enthusiasm got me to play the first one.
 
I wouldn't worry about poor AI, pretty sure someone will mod it pretty quickly. Doubt I'll get the SE this time, just doesn't seem worth the extra £12. Hopefully it's around the same price on Steam, hopefully it'll be available for preloading soon.
 
Seems the person who wrote the PCGamer review is a pretty big STALKER fan (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/01/why-i-still-play-stalker/ and also reviewed it for Eurogamer). Taken from QT3, http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=46554&page=3:

Yeah, I found Clear Sky to be really disappointing. The opening swamps section has lots of promise, and I really enjoyed it up to that point, but the body of the game is pretty miserable.

Hopefully PC Gamer will post the review soon and I can link it up.

To say I wasn't a hardcore Stalker player would be plain wrong, however. I liked Stalker the shooter game very much. The tough combat in the original was one of the reason I rated it so highly. What has changed in the new game is the overall balance of combat mechanics and features, and it's not a pleasing mixture.

It's simply not thrilling in the same way as the original - partly because the script is less interesting, and partly because the "gamification" of things for the faction war just makes everything less engaging/mysterious.

I think I explained it along the lines of the faction war being less "woo, creepy Chernobyl zone" and more "hmm, this is like playing Battlefied 2 with some stupids".
 
Well one thing is for sure, do not go into the visual options and expect to max everything out :lol

GTX 280's in SLI will struggle to avg 40fps.
 
Agent Ironside said:
Well one thing is for sure, do not go into the visual options and expect to max everything out :lol

GTX 280's in SLI will struggle to avg 40fps.

...any idea how well the 4850 will work with it (assuming you have it in person somehow)? Oh, and I wonder if there's going to be the float32 mod or whatnot for this version?
 
Agent Ironside said:
Well one thing is for sure, do not go into the visual options and expect to max everything out :lol

GTX 280's in SLI will struggle to avg 40fps.


ugh, really? do you have any 4870x2 benchmarks?
 
Blizzard said:
...any idea how well the 4850 will work with it (assuming you have it in person somehow)? Oh, and I wonder if there's going to be the float32 mod or whatnot for this version?


You have four lighting options from what I can tell, keep it on the 3rd from the last and your good, only downer is no god rays with that option. Now dont get me wrong, it doesnt run bad generally, just when you crank everything to max like some people tend to do (me), your looking at around 15 frames with a high end single card solution (GTX 260, 280, HD 4870 etc.)
 
Yes, well not sure about connections in the story and stuff, but just based on the feedback I've read STALKER seems to be a better game.
 
Good news IMO - Shawn mentioned at the PAX meet-up tonight that, around 4-5 hours into the game, he strongly disagrees with those saying Clear Sky is disappointing, or worse than the original.
 
Wollan said:
The cover for those interested.

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This would look so much better w/o the fugly characters. Hate it when they do that. There are so many covers that follow this formula. A bunch of soldiers/warriors ready for action, posing and making the cover ugly. Guess it sells better with souldiers on the cover though, unfortunately.
 
Reported delayed in North America by RPS as well:

Stalker's sky darkens

They also mention that the review in PC Format UK will not be great either.

Shacknews speculates that this may also delay the Steam release, even though e.g. Europe isn't affected.

Clear Sky no longer a day one purchase, confirmed :(
 
IGN UK has their review up. 7/10 but the text makes it sound dire.

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/906/906864p1.html

Clear Sky doesn't achieve that. Its take on the Zone, though fundamentally very similar, is seriously overpopulated, cursed with awful writing and saddled with design madness that makes progression a cheerless chore rather than a survivalist joy. 'Atmosphere' is a dangerously vague word to apply to a game, but it's the touchstone description of what the original Stalker did best: spookiness, grimness, weird beauty. Atmosphere is what Clear Sky most critically lacks, and why it could be the most disappointing PC game of 2008.

But it's the action that's more upsetting. Enemies are thrown at you in vast numbers, in a sort of Doom-like spam, which means the whole thing becomes a bit of a quick-save frenzy rather than an moody stalk through a strange world. Worst is the new AI grenade combat, which results in unavoidable death all too often. It's not edgy, tactical combat – it's just disingenuous feature creep that plays out as miserable punishment.

Salt in the wound comes from the occasional bandit muggings – let 'em get too close and they'll automatically nick all your painstakingly-acquired stuff.

sadly the newly-enhanced lighting model brings even a top-tier graphics card to its knees, so you'll end up back on the older visual settings

No more so than in the factional war. Yes, you can sign up to one of multiple factions and wage ongoing territory war against their rivals. No, it doesn't mean anything, other than the opportunity for more missions and shop discounts. It's also depressingly artificial, represented as a bar graph and respawning enemies rather than a sense of actual conquest. It's at odds with the organic world the Zone's supposed to be, and instead just a sub-standard Battlefield clone tacked on as an optional mini-game.

A definite cock-up, though, are the blow-outs. These large-scale radioactive explosions were intended to be a feature of the first game but didn't make it past a couple of scripted moments. Here, they occur at random intervals, and if you're in an endangered area you need to find cover or snuff it. It's tense and ominous first time around, but from thereon in it's just miserable trudging to a nearby shack and then standing still for three or four minutes. By the third time one happens it's nothing more than a massive annoyance, forcing you to drop whatever you're doing and go do nothing instead. Nice idea, miserable implementation.

There's also a stack of bugs and balance issues, perhaps unsurprisingly given Stalker 1's messy gestation, and we suffered an AI failure at one point that broke the faction war system.
 
since i have a laptop with a shit gfx-card i would like to ask if this could end up on ....the ps3?


(or could i play it with a quatro nvs 140? )

thx
 
sankt-Antonio said:
since i have a laptop with a shit gfx-card i would like to ask if this could end up on ....the ps3?


(or could i play it with a quatro nvs 140? )

thx

Not a chance. IF it would ever appear on consoles, it will almost certainly be 360-only.
 
pfft those reviewers are looking for a bloomed up piece of shit next gen game that they're used to. Stalker is the last true PC game. The rest is console garbage
 
tHoMNZ said:
pfft those reviewers are looking for a bloomed up piece of shit next gen game that they're used to. Stalker is the last true PC game. The rest is console garbage

The complaints are about the gameplay, grow up.
 
I've been playing this for the last 2 days and while most of what the reviewers say is true, it's really not that bad. I would say all in all this is a better game than the original. It certainly feels more substantial in that there is more to do. It is disappointing that it's still a story crawl, I'm hoping it opens up more later when I can join some factions, but regardless I'm having a lot of fun with it. I never even paid attention to the plot in the first game anyway. Even if my copy is entirely Russian, it's easy enough to play following the quest markers on the PDA. I obviously can't vouch for the atrocity that is the english VA, but I don't doubt it for a second.

It's just that like they said that added substance and features comes at the cost of some of the atmosphere and makes things more 'gamey.' I would say if you liked the original this is a definite buy because it's still more Stalker. They fixed a lot of the mistakes but made a few new ones.

Its a shame I'll have to start over though. I seem to have hit a bug where night falls and never rises. It's 11am on my game clock and still pitch black, and when I say black I mean black. Nights are much darker and creepier than they ever were in the original. You really can't see a bloody thing.
 
first they took 6 years to make a game, and now they're rushing out the next?

mhh, GSC needs to stop, think, make a big brainstorming session and develope Stalker 2 (asap :D ) with a different mindset and approach. Till then, i'll go with CS.
 
Timekiller said:
first they took 6 years to make a game, and now they're rushing out the next?
no. read up on the development k thx

thing was, they had to rush SoC out the door with a bunch of features removed because THQ got impatient. CS is basically the game they wanted to release with all the features they cut
 
Jenga said:
no. read up on the development k thx

thing was, they had to rush SoC out the door with a bunch of features removed because THQ got impatient. CS is basically the game they wanted to release with all the features they cut

I just have no idea why they cut Bar and Pripyat. I mean they already had the assets and everything from the first game. Even if there wasn't any significant purpose to them it would certainly make the world feel more complete. Also, I wanted a more in-depth arena. :(
 
As I've stated before, reviews don't mean anything to me anymore after Age of Conan and Metal Gear Solid 4. I'm getting this day 1.
 
Nikorasu said:
Nights are much darker and creepier than they ever were in the original. You really can't see a bloody thing.
One review I read said night vision goggles would be a wise first purchase.
Labombadog said:
Damn. This really is a downer. I will still pick it up, but definitely when the price drops dramatically.
It's pretty cheap already if you're not getting the special edition. I wouldn't expect it to get much cheaper until the retailer clears their shelf of it.
 
Still picking it up. The original was my favorite PC game easily despite its bugs and glitches. The atmosphere sucked me in enough to ignore the faults.

Any word on a sexy LE? Or am I going to have to import a copy, and throw my US disc inside the case again? :lol
 
"sadly the newly-enhanced lighting model brings even a top-tier graphics card to its knees, so you'll end up back on the older visual settings"


i really hope this is not the case. i bought the 4870x2 to eat these kinds of games without barely breaking a sweat. if a game like clear sky already struggles on the card...then :(
 
that's disappointing. spamming enemies and insta rob of items.

at least it saves me some money. 3 more games to look forward to on PC
 
rod said:
"sadly the newly-enhanced lighting model brings even a top-tier graphics card to its knees, so you'll end up back on the older visual settings"


i really hope this is not the case. i bought the 4870x2 to eat these kinds of games without barely breaking a sweat. if a game like clear sky already struggles on the card...then :(

On DX10 at 1920x1080 everything maxed + full AA it runs quite well on my 4870x2. Definitely better than Crysis at very high, which is already a pretty solid 30 fps for me with the 8.9 beta drivers. The only time when there was a huge fps drop was at the very beginning in the clear sky base. Once I left the framerate jumped up and kept even after I returned there several times after.
 
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