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Standing Rock: 250 tribes protest pipeline. Violence and arrests. Bail/counsel denied

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jchap

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TalonJH

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Maybe I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying America has historically treated native Americans well.
He was saying the opposite.

On Topic: it would be nice to see more coverage of this. Everything that I've been watching was off YouTube.
 

Media

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He was saying the opposite.

On Topic: it would be nice to see more coverage of this. Everything that I've been watching was off YouTube.

Hey, at least the NeoGAF thread broke 50 posts >.<

Maybe I should have made a click bait title.

I really hope the media gets all over this soon, I'm worried that the lack of attention will lead to more incidents like the dog attacks.
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
Just gunna keep reposting whatever stories and articles I find on whatever feeds I have. True fucking people and brave as hell. Fighting for the body of this country till the end.
 

dangeROSS

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I was just watching a video about this earlier. It's nuts. I can't believe it's not bigger news right now. Using dogs for security in this manner looked really bad. Couldn't believe they were doing that. Messed up stuff.
 

Media

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I was just watching a video about this earlier. It's nuts. I can't believe it's not bigger news right now. Using dogs for security in this manner looked really bad. Couldn't believe they were doing that. Messed up stuff.

I really feel like if this were any other marginalized group through news and social media would be all over it. :(
 
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Holy mother of God.

That would be a travesty. Where is the second image located? Or is that just a potential mockup? It's hard to tell, little grainy on my phone.
 

Lkr

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I had to learn about some of these North Dakota reservations in a class last spring and it's really fucked up how poorly we still treat natives. You would think by 2016 people could just say, "hey these people have been fucked over time and time again, let's just leave them alone for once."

But that money


Existential depression is a big thing for millenials that come from a decent monetary background, but natives have been dealing with this shit for hundreds of years. Literally took everything from them
 
Get the fuck off their lands.

I thought the tribal lands were their own thing?

I hope people keep resisting this.

They aren't constructing the pipeline on the reservation itself; the dispute is largely about the construction taking place on historically sacred grounds (including burial sites) and the pipeline's proposed path going underneath the Missouri River, which is the major watershed for the reservation and the region.
 
If I could leave work today and go support this cause, I would. This is a huge injustice to the people and is fueled purely by greed and deep pockets.
 

TalonJH

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Hey, at least the NeoGAF thread broke 50 posts >.<

Maybe I should have made a click bait title.

I really hope the media gets all over this soon, I'm worried that the lack of attention will lead to more incidents like the dog attacks.

It's always sad when a good thread is stuck with a single page.
 

SaganIsGOAT

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It's heartbreaking. Anyone who sics their dog on a protestor should be thrown in jail. Seriously, wtf.... Fuck this oil line and the greedy fucks who are pushing for it. I read such an amazing thing about Native American culture recently. Basically everything they do is done with 7 generations down the line in mind. We could sure use that right now &#128560;
 
Water wars are coming.

You get a broken pipe under the Missouri and all you will get is an "oops sorry" and a years worth of Nestle bottled water taken from Lake Michigan.
 

tkscz

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This feels like an episode of Captain Planet. Are they really so hard press for oil and money that they would remove human rights to get it? The land belongs to them. Normally, I don't use the "it's year" argument because I find it stupid as human beings are going to repeat the same mistakes and awfulness into infinity because of human nature, but come on. We learn how shitty natives had it all through out American History classes and this shit still happens.
 

Media

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This feels like an episode of Captain Planet. Are they really so hard press for oil and money that they would remove human rights to get it? The land belongs to them. Normally, I don't use the "it's year" argument because I find it stupid as human beings are going to repeat the same mistakes and awfulness into infinity because of human nature, but come on. We learn how shitty natives had it all through out American History classes and this shit still happens.

Like I said before, I think it's because in most peoples minds, we're ghosts of the past. We don't exist. So while we can be used for random virtue signaling re: sports mascots, the actual shit that happens is too hard to help with and thus, is ignored.

There are TONS of issues that need attention, and this is just one of them. There was big story recently that no one will likely remember about how tribes finally got the legal right to bring charges against non-natives for raping a native. That was only last year.

http://www.vice.com/read/native-ame...targets-because-of-a-legislative-loophole-511

No one knows this better than Native women who are survivors of sexual assault. Eighty percent of the reported sexual violence against Native women is committed by white men, who do so with virtual criminal impunity because, with very few exceptions, they cannot be tried in tribal courts. Federal authorities have the authority to step in for serious crimes, like rape or murder, but often decline to prosecute crimes that have been committed in Indian Country. This jurisdictional black hole has created a climate that many describe as "open season" on Native women on reservations.

Tl;Dr a bunch of ass holes found out that you couldn't be charged for raping a native woman, so, surprise, they raped a bunch of Native women.
 

Hex

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I have been following this for a while now.
As far as the legality there has been some issue with the fact that the company was not authorized to begin yet they did anyway, and that they have been forcing people off of their land.
There are also grey things like the fact that the day after a legal filing to block the digging, a huge burial mound was "accidently" bulldozed.

Hey, the Justice League supports the protest so I am in
 

Media

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I have been following this for a while now.
As far as the legality there has been some issue with the fact that the company was not authorized to begin yet they did anyway, and that they have been forcing people off of their land.
There are also grey things like the fact that the day after a legal filing to block the digging, a huge burial mound was "accidently" bulldozed.

Hey, the Justice League supports the protest so I am in

Yay! Celebs ate getting involved! They might make me a DC fan after all.
 
If the tribe doesn't receive justice and construction isn't halted eco-terrorism is justified in my opinion. Blow the pipe up before oil starts running through it.
 
I'm aware of this because of the breathless blog posts by the local fuckface conservative blogger who has a job at the largest newspaper in the state constantly talking about how they're violent thugs.
Are you referring to
Rob Port
?

What makes this worse is that the ND governor and politicians don't want to hear any of the natives complaints and have threatened to call in the national guard to get rid of them.
 

tkscz

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Like I said before, I think it's because in most peoples minds, we're ghosts of the past. We don't exist. So while we can be used for random virtue signaling re: sports mascots, the actual shit that happens is too hard to help with and thus, is ignored.

There are TONS of issues that need attention, and this is just one of them. There was big story recently that no one will likely remember about how tribes finally got the legal right to bring charges against non-natives for raping a native. That was only last year.

http://www.vice.com/read/native-ame...targets-because-of-a-legislative-loophole-511



Tl;Dr a bunch of ass holes found out that you couldn't be charged for raping a native woman, so, surprise, they raped a bunch of Native women.

I get that we have a lot of weird ass old laws that don't make sense and are forgotten about (It's legal to marry a horse in Kentucky and here in Ohio, it's illegal to hunt whales), but that's a really bad oversite. I know better late than never isn't really a good thing, but at least it's now illegal.
 
Considering all the garbage treatment Europeans have put natives through, I find it tragically hilarious we're now after whatever shitty piece of land we left them with to ignore for eternity. There's always been stories of Native resistance in all over Canada, and It's time to put my money where my mouth is. I would love to be there physically, but I can't afford such luxury. I'm getting paid tonight, and I will definetly throw whatever money I can to their case,
 
They aren't constructing the pipeline on the reservation itself; the dispute is largely about the construction taking place on historically sacred grounds (including burial sites) and the pipeline's proposed path going underneath the Missouri River, which is the major watershed for the reservation and the region.

Man, if that thing caused an issue with the Missouri River, the entire midwest is fucked.

Can we just get our asses off of Oil dependence already?

I have a nasty oil burning, gas guzzling RX-7, and I love it. Still, I'm totally with you. oil as a primary fuel source needs to go away, as does fossil fuel dependency in general.

Regardless, I don't know that these guys have any legal support since this is off-reservation, but I support the hell out of them. I'm half Oglala Sioux, so this really gives me a lot to process.
 

Kallor

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Holy mother of God.

That would be a travesty. Where is the second image located? Or is that just a potential mockup? It's hard to tell, little grainy on my phone.

That's a before and after of the Tar Sands in Canada. Same place, real pictures.

These photos were posted around a couple years ago and I swear some gaffers came in and said they were not actually the same place. That second photo is still horrible where ever it was.
 
Mess that's only getting worse---I'm not sure how they can ultimately prevail against these evil wastes of life, but somehow or another I hope they can. If they manage to pull this off in full, down to the dogs and all else, it will become an unholy harbinger of what is soon to come as it only escalates from there once it gets a foothold.

It is getting some attention at least, but nowhere near enough alongside action from up top to take up their entirely just cause. Now would be a good time for Maher's show and VICE to get back on the air for the next season...
 
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