Sentenza
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STAR CITIZEN, Chris Roberts' (Wing Commander) New Game [$25 million funded]
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Dictator93
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who knows anymore. This thing just keeps making money
Xane
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(moved to this page)
** TO EVERYONE WHO HASN'T PLEDGED YET BUT IS PLANNING ON DOING SO OR IS GOING TO UPGRADE THEIR PLEDGE! **
I implore you to read the signature of the fellow citizen Shadows Lament:
We are planning on building an ingame bar and free trading place for the community, a friendly place where all traders and fellow citizen are welcomed to join in!
But in order to actually realize this, we need to get our hands on the Idris Corvette, which, as of now, is an exclusive reward for winning the Grand Price in the Referal Competition.
Thank you!
** TO EVERYONE WHO HASN'T PLEDGED YET BUT IS PLANNING ON DOING SO OR IS GOING TO UPGRADE THEIR PLEDGE! **
I implore you to read the signature of the fellow citizen Shadows Lament:
We are planning on building an ingame bar and free trading place for the community, a friendly place where all traders and fellow citizen are welcomed to join in!
But in order to actually realize this, we need to get our hands on the Idris Corvette, which, as of now, is an exclusive reward for winning the Grand Price in the Referal Competition.
Thank you!
Improbable but not impossible I think.
Dictator93
Member
what do you mean exactly?
1st response: Chris Roberts is taking half the funding from a crowd based model and presumably another half from private entities.
2nd response: You invest in the game and get a copy quite plainly depending on your tier.
I assume you meant the first?
Sorry, I meant the funding for the game itself. Is it confirmed that he's getting outside funds?
Someone told me that they have 10mil lined up in investors? Not sure if it's true.
That was what Chris said from the beginning. The money raised through this campaign would never be enough to develop a game of the scope he envisions.
Well, I pledged. Not gonna let another Crowd Funding project pass me by, especially not one like this. I'm just wondering if my PC will handle it. Either way, things are gonna be a little tight for me for the next couple weeks because of this. I hope it's worth it...
maquiladora
Member
Because there isn't one. If people feel so strongly about this project and don't mind playing 10/20$ per month until release day ... Good for them. They'll have access to some really cool staff.
The Cutlass looks pretty badass!
I can't really justify $240 for some magazines and a visit that I probably won't have time for, unfortunately. I managed to stick with just my initial $250 pledge.
Subscription is a dirty word to some now. I don't think it's a negative at all.
What's your gripe with it, seriously? It's something (some) people have been asking for since the beginning. It's a harmless extra, something that doesn't bring any real in-game advantage to the subscribers. A bonus for the hardcorest of the hardcore. And we all benefit from it.
Subscriptions. That update will be bad. Or it meant people canceled pledges to move to subs.
No idea why people would think the subscriptions are bad if they read the update.
There was a problem with the RSI website. It was counting new $100 pledges as $5000. It's fixed now.
Why is a subscription that gives you absolutely no in-game advantage (not even the game itself) more "greedy" than a one-time pledge that gives you all sorts of in-game currency as well as a ship + lifetime insurance? From a financial standpoint, none of the tiers aside from the bottom one are worth the money.
Do you... understand the entire reason for Kickstarter?
It's greed to every player benefit. Every revenue coming from the subscriptions will revert to the development of the game. I would be more confortable also if it was announced from the beginning but I can live with this.
The project started on robersspaceindustries.com with a goal of $2M. The Kickstarter page was added later so that people would be able to pledge if the main site went down. Kickstarter is also nice in that it doesn't take any money until the countdown is over (unlike RSI).
The big thing to know is that this project is not entirely crowdfunded. Chris Roberts already has a bunch of external investors on board and the game probably would have gone forward even if the $2M goal wasn't met. According to Roberts, more money in the crowdfunding phase means that the external investors will provide more money faster.
It sounded a bit shady to me at first, but you can't argue with the professionalism of this campaign.
Can you show me the other game kickstarters that offer up an ongoing subscription, especially so late in the process?
So far, DoubleFine and Obsidian have managed to keep me well-informed about the ongoing development of their games without dangling a carrot in front of me, so that I "have the opportunity" to give them more money on an ongoing basis to get the full story on the development of the game.
All of these little perks should have been in the tiers. Multiple other Kickstarters have done the whole "your name in the game" and "your name on a plaque on our office wall" without having to resort to subscriptions.
All of this just makes me wonder what other ways RSI will come up with to ask its faithful for additional money during the next 2 years.
None of them do. Kickstarter does not have a subscription option. This is only happening because of the RSI site.
I agree that development transparency is better than hiding behind a pay wall. But remember, we're already going to get major progress reports every 30 days plus the usual site updates. The other subscription stuff is bonus fluff.
So now a portion of the behind the scenes stuff is going to be locked behind a subscription. That's so lame. And an 'exclusive merchandise' catalog too. I bet they're going to have neat stuff like mousepads and posters in that catalog.
Edit: I'm probably going to cave on the Centurion subscription by this time tomorrow. I can't resist more behind the scenes material.
Edit: I'm probably going to cave on the Centurion subscription by this time tomorrow. I can't resist more behind the scenes material.
I don't care. They'll continue to support it afterwards anyhow. Worst case I'll just play it a few months later.
Yeah because that exclusive content is just so vital to the gameplay, right?
That's the right attitude but games of this ambition rarely make it to fruition in my experience. I can see them running out of money fast.
ColonelSkills
Member
It's like you really didn't read the update at all!
Well yeah, that tends to be true for ambitious games in general. Better than the alternative.
Yea, I am pretty sure the external large investors had their set of clauses outlining ease of access to funds being contingent on X and greater that X amount of capital.
However, my query pertains more toward how they have been to constrain the budget to $2 million as baseline for developing a game with such ambition and visuals. In the era where mainstream games out on console on average costs tens of millions of dollars to make, this looks like a exception to the rule especially because it seems much more expansive than a XBL/PSN title.