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STAR CITIZEN, Chris Roberts' (Wing Commander) New Game [$25 million funded]
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For me it's:
WC 4 > WC 2 > Privateer 2 > Privateer > WC 3 > WC Armada > WC 1 > WC Prophecy > WC Academy
Did you miss the part where he talks about how important technological progress is to his vision, and how it wouldn't have been possible with the technology of 2 years ago?
Schobeleth
Member
Now this... this looks like what Black Prophecy and other said games should've been. Going to digest more of it later 
I'm not sure how I missed this (possibly my wednesday meeting of doom right during the announce event), but I am absolutely in day 1 for this. I'm a bit torn on my level of support, not sure if I wanna go $60 or higher, but I absolutely will be pre-funding it.
The preview assets look pretty awesome, some of the carrier textures could use some extra detail, but overall the engine implementation looks really smooth. MechWarrior Online is Cryengine 3, and is playable today, I wonder how CE3 will hold up in 2014...
The preview assets look pretty awesome, some of the carrier textures could use some extra detail, but overall the engine implementation looks really smooth. MechWarrior Online is Cryengine 3, and is playable today, I wonder how CE3 will hold up in 2014...
Please leave this thread, while You still can.
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I think this is the best gif for this annoucement
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Anyone who's complaining about it, just go buy COD instead please.
There was nothing even planned that is so ambitious and awesome as this game for Space genre or even MMO genre [CCP is exception]. Only CCP makes comparable games in terms of design and its nice to see that there are other who also like their concept of massively deep, high budget games.
It was my first kickstarted game, because its the first one that can fail in terms of crowdfunding and it definitely shouldnt!
If it will get founded, it will be breakthrough for PC gaming and end of 5-year-old-laptop compatible exclusive PC games. We need push and this the hardest tech and design push that happen in last few years.
Interficium
Banned
We hope.
It's a backup site and the original site states if they don't reach the goal you get your money back
I'm ok with that. But 2 million seems a little small to make this game. Do they have more money as a backup?
The original site said this is just to prove interest and there are larger backers that will kick in if 2 million is hit.
CharmingCharlie
Member
Well you can CHOOSE to get your money back if the project doesn't reach it's target. So be careful and make sure you tick the "give me my money back" option, it is OFF by default.
What? There was no such option? If they have other large backers that kick in after 2 million, why dont they make the game just even without 2 million bucks?
The crowdfunding is only to prove to those mysterious larger backers that there is sufficient interest. Sounds a bit weird, I know. This whole bit is probably the shadiest and messiest thing about the project, and I wish Roberts would detail it a bit further, but yeah.
CharmingCharlie
Member
The option seems to be available on the "main" site but it does not appear on the backup sites. This whole thing is an absolute mess and could have been avoided if they had used the Kickstarter program.
Did they really go for this flimsy site just so they can avoid a 5% fee?
I don't know, but it seems that way. They probably get to keep the money no matter what too, since there's no "goal" or time limit. Or no rules or terms of service or any real, reliable infrastructure of any kind. It's a very weird proposition.
Grim Dawn pulled it off pretty well before their Kickstarter. I hope they go for an additional funding cycle using Kickstarter when they have an actual product to show.
Considering the final budget that they're shooting for (12-14 million according to Eurogamer interview), that would never be possible in Kickstarter alone. If they made a Kickstarter with the pitch: "Ok guys the final goal is 2 million dollars but that it's not enough and we will need some private investors to chip in and bring the final amount to a more reasonable (for the scope of the game we are aiming for) 12-14 million dollars. So this pledge is just a test to show those private investors that this project has an audience out there." The kickstarter campaign would fail. And I even have some reservations that Kickstarter TOS would allow a campaign with that kind of objective.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Get out. Are you kidding?
Sentenza
Gold Member
Never actually liked the combat in X games. It never had that smooth and yet frenetic feel you get from games like X-Wing/Tie Fighter, Freespace 2 or the best Wing Commander games.
By the way, everything they shown and explained so far about the game makes me incredibly excited. I was going for several Kickstarter threads in the past months claiming things "Now we just need another big space sim and this will be a golden age of gaming".
It really feels like the resurgence of BIG, ambitious PC games these days.
This is the worst troll attempt I've ever seen.
Also people really need to stop bringing up X as some kind of space sim for people to play. It's an economic simulator that wraps it's gui in a cockpit. It's as much a space sim as zoo tycoon is.
On the official site [before they put up this temporary one] there was 30 day time limit sign below other statistics.
vagabondarts
Member
Welcome home Chris Roberts.
Space Sim lovers rejoice!
Space Sim lovers rejoice!
Sentenza
Gold Member
Hilarious.
If anything, with the kind of game he's doing, with the "small constant updates"-model he's proposing and the focus on PC as only platform, this could feeling something to pitch to Valve.
I don't see where Nintendo -with their very strict, controlled, closed and corporate-like mentality- fits at any point with this project.
Official site is down.
As above someone stated. I see why they are not doing it by kickstarter. Kickstarter TOS doesn't allow partial funding. As of this whole idea with investor it's probably like CARS. Meaning it will be investor not publisher meaning they will hold IP and they will share their income with investor.
That is the difference between investor and publisher.
As above someone stated. I see why they are not doing it by kickstarter. Kickstarter TOS doesn't allow partial funding. As of this whole idea with investor it's probably like CARS. Meaning it will be investor not publisher meaning they will hold IP and they will share their income with investor.
That is the difference between investor and publisher.
Quadrangulum
Banned
It's hard for me to believe as I've never given a cent to crowd funding initiatives I kind of detest the practice but here I am on the verge of pledging 5000 or 10000. For me, this is closest thing ever to a personal miracle.
We'll need someone to kickstart a Looking Glass-style game first. Then I will agree.
Sentenza
Gold Member
Well, there were rumors of someone proposing a new Ultima Underwolrd to these Legeond of Grimrock's guys, but they apparently refused.
I'm still waiting to see what could ever come out of that.
I'm also quite impatient to know what Doug Church is exactly working on in Valve. But that could even be a big "nothing".
I'm glad he did this. Straight up "Gimme money to make this game." Kickstarter and gaming bugs me now, people treat it like a store.
Well if thats how you feel maybe the 60 or 125 would be more reasonable.
I desperately want to see Valve get involved in immersive sim-style games. OR SPACE SIMS. And I'm 80% sure I read a comment about Valve toying with the idea of a space sim.
Sentenza
Gold Member
It's not a "if", they already confirmed [the intention to offer] full support for it.
I think you'll be pleased to know that Oculus Rift support is indeed on the features list along with stereoscopic 3D support.