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Star Trek Enterprise Series Finale "These are the Voyages" 5/13
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themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
No Keep it here so everyone point and laugh....
DrForester
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So the last episode is a conintuation of this weeks, right? Preview didn't seem to indicate if it was continuing this arc or not.
Tonights episode was pretty good. Though the durring the speech at the beginning I expected the guy to burst into a giant snake and start eating everyone.....
Tonights episode was pretty good. Though the durring the speech at the beginning I expected the guy to burst into a giant snake and start eating everyone.....
Pudding Tame
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Phoenix said:
Was going to do a Buckaroo Banzai joke, but thought better of it.
ManaByte
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Reminder this is tomorrow night. The last Star Trek for a long long time.
Trailer:
http://www.startrek.com/videouploads/200505/ent-097-098/300k.mov
Trailer:
http://www.startrek.com/videouploads/200505/ent-097-098/300k.mov
WTF does this take place before Generations. Why are they on the Enterprise D? Also the pictures of Ron Moore and other producers was a nice touch.
Edit: Ok am I missing something? I just realized they are showing the lat episode here, but not the continuation from last week. My TiVo says there are two parts to the season finale.
Edit: Ok am I missing something? I just realized they are showing the lat episode here, but not the continuation from last week. My TiVo says there are two parts to the season finale.
The Faceless Master
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spoilers DURING THE EPISODE?
oh man thats fucked up!
there bettah be some ironic twist
FUCKING RIKER!
oh man thats fucked up!
there bettah be some ironic twist
FUCKING RIKER!
The Faceless Master
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:lol :lol :lol @ "you can go straight to hell"
i wonder how many people are smashing their tv's right now...
i know SOMEBODY has to be!
i wonder how many people are smashing their tv's right now...
i know SOMEBODY has to be!
Agent Dormer
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That was kinda a crappy way to go. :/
Phoenix
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The Faceless Master said:
I need my LCD or else I would. I mean, this is completely contrived bullshit! It doesn't even make any sense! Suddenly there is this mystery ship that attacks them out of the blue and these guys beam onto the ship and are greeted by the captain and the engineer? Do the enterprise blueprints have something that says "infiltrate ship here to reach critical personnel" on them? I mean WTF, security didn't even show up! Are they all off getting blowjobs or something?
Phoenix
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They go through all this crap about about the speech and we don't even get to gear it? Berman and Braga the amount of suck you have brought to the world knows no bounds. This isn't even the founding of the federation though, so at least they leave the door open for Manny or someone else to fill in the blanks in a movie or fan fiction....
so sad.... oh well.
so sad.... oh well.
Agent Dormer
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Yeah, I'd like to see what was going to happen with Archer's career, and the speech. That was a crap ending.
The Faceless Master
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it's a good thing that i was already prepared for it to suck... if i only had such low expectations for ... other things this week...
Crazymoogle
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Boogie said:
Basically,
it's during Next Generation, when Riker decides to tell Picard about the Pegasus, a federation ship with a top secret cloaking device. The entire episode follows Riker trying to decide whether to risk his career and friendship with Picard to tell him of the Pegasus and help Enterprise find the ship before the Romulans do. Since he can't decide, Troi suggests he runs the holodeck program covering the decommissioning of the original Enterprise and the talks leading to the beginnings of the federation as a sort of inspiration.
The idea was clever - Riker plays the notoriously unseen Chef - but there is something about his face that just looks too old for that particular TNG episode. He also talks to Troi oddly, and all in all both seem like they have far too much role rust.
Trip dies, T'Pol is way too emotional all of the time, and everybody outside of the big three is relegated to almost nothing as usual. There's a subplot with Shran that seems like a pointless redirect. Every ounce of nostalgia and reminiscence Braga/Berman try to bestow is lost in another one of their classic rudderless plots.
Trip dies, T'Pol is way too emotional all of the time, and everybody outside of the big three is relegated to almost nothing as usual. There's a subplot with Shran that seems like a pointless redirect. Every ounce of nostalgia and reminiscence Braga/Berman try to bestow is lost in another one of their classic rudderless plots.
I will say one thing, though. For all of the
time wasting up to that final scene, It was fairly inspiring to have that last montage. (Manabyte: the three captains recite the "mission statement" from the beginning of TOS/TNG, with the line split into three pieces and the appropriate Enterprise on screen while the line is being said).
It's just sad that we've seen two shows worth of completely wasted potential and aren't likely to see good Trek in the near future. They've gone from emmys to not even a friday night ratings win.
It's just sad that we've seen two shows worth of completely wasted potential and aren't likely to see good Trek in the near future. They've gone from emmys to not even a friday night ratings win.
ManaByte
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Here's the intro that Berman vetoed like an idiot:
http://www.startrek.com/videouploads/200410/vid-enterprise-promo-boldlygo/300k.mov
http://www.startrek.com/videouploads/200410/vid-enterprise-promo-boldlygo/300k.mov
Escape Goat
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LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- "Star Trek: Enterprise" is about to go where it has never gone before: off the air, taking the "Star Trek" franchise with it.
After the two-hour finale airs (8 p.m. EDT Friday on UPN) this will be the first time in 18 years that no first-run "Trek" series is on TV.
"Enterprise" lasted four seasons. It was the first "Trek" spinoff to last fewer than seven seasons. Plummeting ratings did what no Klingon battlecruiser or Borg collective could accomplish. And this time, network honchos didn't bow to Trekker pressure to renew the series, as they did in the face of a write-in campaign that gave the original "Star Trek" a third year on the tube (1966-69).
In fact, many longtime Trekkers stopped watching long ago. There were gripes going back at least as far as the fourth incarnation, "Star Trek: Voyager" (1995-2001), about lame or retreaded plots, goofy aliens and the weak leadership of "Voyager's" Kathryn Janeway (Kate Mulgrew) and "Enterprise's" Jonathan Archer (Scott Bakula).
Sadly lacking were the rules-be-damned machismo of James Tiberius Kirk (William Shatner) or the class and thoughtful maturity of Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart).
The original "Trek" was not above a little T&A to jazz up ratings. (Who can forget Yeoman Rand's miniskirt or the green-skinned Orion dancers?) But "Voyager" may have upped the silliness ante with a Borg who wore skin-tight catsuits and high heels, while "Enterprise" had a curvaceous Vulcan officer stripping every other episode.
No villain like the unstoppable Borg cropped up for a decade, either.
Supporters say "Enterprise" had vastly improved in its final season and blame other reasons for the ratings drop: weekend reruns that drew an audience but weren't counted in the Nielsens; ditto for those who taped or TiVo'd the program. And shifting "Enterprise" to a Friday time slot didn't help.
Producer Rick Berman has cited the problem of "franchise fatigue" after decades of "Star Trek" spinoffs.
Changing times, changing centuries
Perhaps, some Trekkers argue, it was time to take a rest. After all, it was 18 years between the original "Trek" and "The Next Generation," which went on to have a vast following.
In the meantime, there are the reruns, the DVD packages, the video games, the hordes of fans in chat rooms and conventions and the contributions to popular culture that range from Klingon language academies to the phrase "Beam me up, Scotty!"
Things have changed a lot over the years, both within and without the "Trek" universe, as scholars drew real-world comparisons to the shows.
The original series had a Cold War between the Federation and the Russians, er, Klingons and a cheerfully naive approach to solving racial and political conflicts.
"Next Generation" (1987-94) had a post-Soviet view in which the Klingons were allies, and a politically correct view that the values of other cultures, no matter how weird or repugnant, deserved respect.
Both also shared a sunny idealism that humans had overcome their own conflicts, lived in peace, and were on voyages of discovery and knowledge for the sheer joy of it.
The optimistic view of a united future humanity that the original "Trek" offered began to crumble in earnest with "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" (1993-1999). The earnest morality of the first two series gave way to gray areas in which the good guys dirtied their hands with assassinations and other foul deeds in fighting a war for survival.
Moral relativism had crept into the sparkling "Trek" universe. Some viewers were dismayed; others enthralled.
By "Enterprise," actually a prequel set more than a century before the original series, the plots involved murky machinations and feuds spreading across the galaxy and even through time. Innocence was replaced by a somewhat gloomy view. Even the vaunted Vulcans were portrayed as pompous and dissembling.
But in the meantime, "Trek" no longer had the TV universe to itself. "Bablyon 5" (1994-1998) created a world arguably as rich and complex as the Federation's. Nowadays, science fiction fans can choose from a host of syndicated and cable shows, including "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda" (named for "Star Trek's" late creator and produced by his widow) and the new "Battlestar Galactica."
Maybe there's just too much competition these days, and the audience is too fragmented.
Maybe even Capt. Kirk couldn't save the franchise.
Maybe, as with people, so with "Trek": the one enemy that always wins is Time.
Or perhaps, someday in the distant future, "Star Trek" will rise again. Fans can have only one response to that hope:
Make it so.
After the two-hour finale airs (8 p.m. EDT Friday on UPN) this will be the first time in 18 years that no first-run "Trek" series is on TV.
"Enterprise" lasted four seasons. It was the first "Trek" spinoff to last fewer than seven seasons. Plummeting ratings did what no Klingon battlecruiser or Borg collective could accomplish. And this time, network honchos didn't bow to Trekker pressure to renew the series, as they did in the face of a write-in campaign that gave the original "Star Trek" a third year on the tube (1966-69).
In fact, many longtime Trekkers stopped watching long ago. There were gripes going back at least as far as the fourth incarnation, "Star Trek: Voyager" (1995-2001), about lame or retreaded plots, goofy aliens and the weak leadership of "Voyager's" Kathryn Janeway (Kate Mulgrew) and "Enterprise's" Jonathan Archer (Scott Bakula).
Sadly lacking were the rules-be-damned machismo of James Tiberius Kirk (William Shatner) or the class and thoughtful maturity of Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart).
The original "Trek" was not above a little T&A to jazz up ratings. (Who can forget Yeoman Rand's miniskirt or the green-skinned Orion dancers?) But "Voyager" may have upped the silliness ante with a Borg who wore skin-tight catsuits and high heels, while "Enterprise" had a curvaceous Vulcan officer stripping every other episode.
No villain like the unstoppable Borg cropped up for a decade, either.
Supporters say "Enterprise" had vastly improved in its final season and blame other reasons for the ratings drop: weekend reruns that drew an audience but weren't counted in the Nielsens; ditto for those who taped or TiVo'd the program. And shifting "Enterprise" to a Friday time slot didn't help.
Producer Rick Berman has cited the problem of "franchise fatigue" after decades of "Star Trek" spinoffs.
Changing times, changing centuries
Perhaps, some Trekkers argue, it was time to take a rest. After all, it was 18 years between the original "Trek" and "The Next Generation," which went on to have a vast following.
In the meantime, there are the reruns, the DVD packages, the video games, the hordes of fans in chat rooms and conventions and the contributions to popular culture that range from Klingon language academies to the phrase "Beam me up, Scotty!"
Things have changed a lot over the years, both within and without the "Trek" universe, as scholars drew real-world comparisons to the shows.
The original series had a Cold War between the Federation and the Russians, er, Klingons and a cheerfully naive approach to solving racial and political conflicts.
"Next Generation" (1987-94) had a post-Soviet view in which the Klingons were allies, and a politically correct view that the values of other cultures, no matter how weird or repugnant, deserved respect.
Both also shared a sunny idealism that humans had overcome their own conflicts, lived in peace, and were on voyages of discovery and knowledge for the sheer joy of it.
The optimistic view of a united future humanity that the original "Trek" offered began to crumble in earnest with "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" (1993-1999). The earnest morality of the first two series gave way to gray areas in which the good guys dirtied their hands with assassinations and other foul deeds in fighting a war for survival.
Moral relativism had crept into the sparkling "Trek" universe. Some viewers were dismayed; others enthralled.
By "Enterprise," actually a prequel set more than a century before the original series, the plots involved murky machinations and feuds spreading across the galaxy and even through time. Innocence was replaced by a somewhat gloomy view. Even the vaunted Vulcans were portrayed as pompous and dissembling.
But in the meantime, "Trek" no longer had the TV universe to itself. "Bablyon 5" (1994-1998) created a world arguably as rich and complex as the Federation's. Nowadays, science fiction fans can choose from a host of syndicated and cable shows, including "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda" (named for "Star Trek's" late creator and produced by his widow) and the new "Battlestar Galactica."
Maybe there's just too much competition these days, and the audience is too fragmented.
Maybe even Capt. Kirk couldn't save the franchise.
Maybe, as with people, so with "Trek": the one enemy that always wins is Time.
Or perhaps, someday in the distant future, "Star Trek" will rise again. Fans can have only one response to that hope:
Make it so.
What that article is missing.
"Supporters say "Enterprise" had vastly improved in its final season"
And in a completely unrelated note, Berman and Braga had their control in the series greatly reduced in the last season. Completely a coincidence however.
Fans - "We want to see how the federation began! And best of all, since it's based in the past, we won't have to deal with the same species over and over ..."
Berman - "THE BORG!"
Fans - "No no, they don't know about humans for another 200 yea-"
Braga - "FERENGIS!!!
Fans - "Uhh... no, no, they didn't know about humans either until-"
Berman - "TIME TRAVEL EPISODES! HOLODECK EPISDOES!!!"
Fans - "You guys don't know what the hell you're doing! I'm just gonna stop watching."
Braga - "DAMN YOU SERIES FATIGUE!!"
"Supporters say "Enterprise" had vastly improved in its final season"
And in a completely unrelated note, Berman and Braga had their control in the series greatly reduced in the last season. Completely a coincidence however.
Fans - "We want to see how the federation began! And best of all, since it's based in the past, we won't have to deal with the same species over and over ..."
Berman - "THE BORG!"
Fans - "No no, they don't know about humans for another 200 yea-"
Braga - "FERENGIS!!!
Fans - "Uhh... no, no, they didn't know about humans either until-"
Berman - "TIME TRAVEL EPISODES! HOLODECK EPISDOES!!!"
Fans - "You guys don't know what the hell you're doing! I'm just gonna stop watching."
Braga - "DAMN YOU SERIES FATIGUE!!"
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