It was the opposite in the Beta, though I would imagine a lot of people playing Early Access got the hang of the mode in the Beta, and it sounds like Dice made some balance changes as well.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Star Wars Battlefront |OT| Here's Where The Fun Begins
- Thread starter JDHarbs
- Start date
- Status
It was the opposite in the Beta, though I would imagine a lot of people playing Early Access got the hang of the mode in the Beta, and it sounds like Dice made some balance changes as well.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Prone can die in a fire. Bad Company worked fine without it.
Please god no. People constantly jumping around is annoying enough.
Agree with the Party System
Vehicles being pickups is fine. Everyone can get access and not just someone that is only sitting in the spawn screen waiting for vehicles to spawn.
It isnt a Sequel
So yeah.Ah okay, thanks. I intend on playing other modes as well, but this was actually what I was somewhat concerned about. Still, doesn't sound too bad for the £40 I paid for it, and there's two more maps coming for free a couple of weeks after launch which makes it a bit easier to stomach.
I had accidentally preordered the Deluxe Edition on PSN instead of the standard edition. I just cancelled the preorder, but the game and all addons (deluxe edition content, themes) are still in my download list. Is this normal? Shouldn't they have been removed from the list?
I hope this won't cause any issues when I preorder the standard edition.
I hope this won't cause any issues when I preorder the standard edition.
PintSizedSlasher
Member
Yep, it's nice isn't it?
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
I hate prone with a passion. I think removing it would improve games like COD and Battlefield.Prone can die in a fire. Bad Company worked fine without it.
Please god no. People constantly jumping around is annoying enough.
Agree with the Party System
Vehicles being pickups is fine. Everyone can get access and not just someone that is only sitting in the spawn screen waiting for vehicles to spawn.
It isnt a Sequel
ElzarTheBam
Member
Pickup system is fine.
Don't want BF syndrome with 8 guys watching the spawn screen for a favourable vehicle.
Don't want BF syndrome with 8 guys watching the spawn screen for a favourable vehicle.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Did they increase the visibility of pickups on Hoth?
Is having those 5 guys run to a Tie Fighter and having the enemy blow up the fighter before it even gets off the ground any better?
Streaming a bit here: http://www.twitch.tv/rokker_iv
Doing some Fighter Squadron now, will probably flip over to Walker Assault soon.
Doing some Fighter Squadron now, will probably flip over to Walker Assault soon.
So I finished my ten hour trial.
My thoughts and experiences:
+ Overall very fun.
+ Runs really well on Xbox One, and looks fantastic. No sign of any frame rate issues, even on 40 player Walker Assault. No bugs encountered at all. Matchmaking averaged under about 15 seconds.
+? I got to level 13, and unlocked the jetpack (and most of the things along the way). Items go up to level 30, and I reckon a decent player can unlock everything in the space of a few days (I'm RUBBISH at shooters).
? I'm not sure if the PC gaming audience will stick with it. No scopes, attachments, prone, long grinding etc. It reminds me of a 90s shooter, which is great.
- I took my helmet off as an Imperial character, using the customization option. The character was black. I got a racist message on Xbox Live demanding I put the helmet back on, because people gotta be fuckwits.
+ The game boots very quickly, you can skip the EA logo and go straight to multiplayer menu, and be in a match in under a minute.
+ No loading screens between matches. It loads the map while you are on the scoreboard (that process is also very quick, so you basically go from one game to another).
+ Basically if you want a quick 15 minute match before work or at lunchtime, it's good for that.
+ Flight Squadron mode is great. Despite being rubbish at shooters, I was in the top 3 every match in this mode.
- I wouldn't play for long stints. Most modes only have a few maps, you will get bored. Mix it with other games.
My thoughts and experiences:
+ Overall very fun.
+ Runs really well on Xbox One, and looks fantastic. No sign of any frame rate issues, even on 40 player Walker Assault. No bugs encountered at all. Matchmaking averaged under about 15 seconds.
+? I got to level 13, and unlocked the jetpack (and most of the things along the way). Items go up to level 30, and I reckon a decent player can unlock everything in the space of a few days (I'm RUBBISH at shooters).
? I'm not sure if the PC gaming audience will stick with it. No scopes, attachments, prone, long grinding etc. It reminds me of a 90s shooter, which is great.
- I took my helmet off as an Imperial character, using the customization option. The character was black. I got a racist message on Xbox Live demanding I put the helmet back on, because people gotta be fuckwits.
+ The game boots very quickly, you can skip the EA logo and go straight to multiplayer menu, and be in a match in under a minute.
+ No loading screens between matches. It loads the map while you are on the scoreboard (that process is also very quick, so you basically go from one game to another).
+ Basically if you want a quick 15 minute match before work or at lunchtime, it's good for that.
+ Flight Squadron mode is great. Despite being rubbish at shooters, I was in the top 3 every match in this mode.
- I wouldn't play for long stints. Most modes only have a few maps, you will get bored. Mix it with other games.
Anton Sugar
Member
Another big reason I am probably gonna pass (for now) is because without content, I can usually have a blast just playing with friends. But because you can only have one squad member, and otherwise spawns are randomized, it's like the game is fighting against you coordinating with more than one person. I mean, I can party chat, but it's often
"Need help at left control point, fast."
"Respawning...ah fuck, I'm on the right side."
On repeat.
Report that fucker.
Well, again, we don't know how many actual "maps" there are. I assume there will be one more that is added to Supremacy/WA, and one more added to the smaller game modes.
"Need help at left control point, fast."
"Respawning...ah fuck, I'm on the right side."
On repeat.
Report that fucker.
Well, again, we don't know how many actual "maps" there are. I assume there will be one more that is added to Supremacy/WA, and one more added to the smaller game modes.
DrGonzo615
Banned
Wow, the hero vehicles turn the tide really fast.
I watched the RoKKeRs team go from a 30 ticket deficit to winning by almost 20 tickets after Slave 1 joined the game. (never saw Millenium Falcon, not sure if it was in the match).
Preordering the standard edition worked. But when I added it to my download list, apart from the game it only (re-)downloaded the Han and Leia themes, not the others (Vader, Stormtrooper, AT-ST). Why's that? Are the latter three exclusive to the deluxe edition? They're still in my theme list, though, and I can still use them.
Had the Falcon in the last game, that thing is a dog! Really need helpmfrom team mates.
DrGonzo615
Banned
Have you had a chance to use Slave 1? How is it by comparison?
MADGAME
Member
She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts kid.
LightofRohan
Member
I'm really tempted to get the season pass for this. It's the first game where I'm sure I'd want all the things, is it limiting in any way?
And does anyone know if you can get the 10 hour early access for the PS4 version??
And does anyone know if you can get the 10 hour early access for the PS4 version??
Not sure what you mean by the first question, but no, there is no 10 hour early access for PS4 or PC.
Whatever'sComfortable
Banned
Can people comment on the smaller game modes? I know there's some that are simply 6 v 6.
Have a big group of friends on PC so we could probably fill out an entire side.
Have a big group of friends on PC so we could probably fill out an entire side.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
esmith08734
Member
My recent PS4 connection test is 517 kbps upload and 729 kbps download. Yeah, don't think I'll be able to hang online.
Sorry if this has been posted before. Updated Season Pass info: http://starwars.ea.com/starwars/battlefront/season-pass
Lot's of maps as expected.
Was expecting more heroes in the end though. Kylo, Rey, Finn and Chewie? Depends if they focus the packs around TFA.
- epic expansion packs featuring brand new content set across the Star Wars galaxy including:
- Over 20 new pieces of galactic tech including weapons, vehicles, and Star Cards for both Rebels and Imperials
- 4 more heroes and villains for you to fight as or against
- 16 additional multiplayer maps featuring new locations
- 4 exciting new game modes
Lot's of maps as expected.
Was expecting more heroes in the end though. Kylo, Rey, Finn and Chewie? Depends if they focus the packs around TFA.
MADGAME
Member
So 4 maps, 1 hero, and 1 new game mode per expansion pack?
Plus weapons, vehicles and star cards.
Well, I'm through my 10 hours... and subsequently cancelling my PC preorder.
It feels like the game is meant for a much wider audience. But in the process of expanding that audience, they lost what made both Battlefield and Battlefront special. Most notably, the game just lacks depth and mastery opportunities.
With vehicles being a coin-based system, you can't really specialize in particular playstyles. The same is true of their weapons - a lot of them feel very, very similar.
Contrast with Battlefield, where most lives you could spawn into a Tank or Plane (with custom server rules to help move this around). And where a lot of the weapons had immense amounts of stuff you could learn and master with them.
The mastery and specialization opportunities just aren't that deep, which means the fun fades fast.
I feel like the coin system for vehicles was a huge design flaw that eliminates opportunity for people to really go deep on piloting vehicles to help their team. But again, they definitely help expand to a wider audience. I imagine a very casual Battlefront player will get very excited when he gets to pick up a coin and enter an AT&T, or bike, or whatever. But for hardcore shooter fans, I feel like we need that mastery side to really commit to playing long-term.
--------------------
In Battlefield 4, My friend was a Helicopter pilot. I was an infantry specialist. Another friend was a tank driver. Another was an engineer and mine/C4 guy.
But in Battlefront, we're all just infantry, and rarely, we'll get to be a pilot, or a gunner, or maybe Darth Vader. But I'm never any of those things often enough to get a real shot at mastering them.
And without those opportunities to master the mechanics that make Battlefront unique, I'm quickly churned (in just 10 hours!)
It feels like the game is meant for a much wider audience. But in the process of expanding that audience, they lost what made both Battlefield and Battlefront special. Most notably, the game just lacks depth and mastery opportunities.
With vehicles being a coin-based system, you can't really specialize in particular playstyles. The same is true of their weapons - a lot of them feel very, very similar.
Contrast with Battlefield, where most lives you could spawn into a Tank or Plane (with custom server rules to help move this around). And where a lot of the weapons had immense amounts of stuff you could learn and master with them.
The mastery and specialization opportunities just aren't that deep, which means the fun fades fast.
I feel like the coin system for vehicles was a huge design flaw that eliminates opportunity for people to really go deep on piloting vehicles to help their team. But again, they definitely help expand to a wider audience. I imagine a very casual Battlefront player will get very excited when he gets to pick up a coin and enter an AT&T, or bike, or whatever. But for hardcore shooter fans, I feel like we need that mastery side to really commit to playing long-term.
--------------------
In Battlefield 4, My friend was a Helicopter pilot. I was an infantry specialist. Another friend was a tank driver. Another was an engineer and mine/C4 guy.
But in Battlefront, we're all just infantry, and rarely, we'll get to be a pilot, or a gunner, or maybe Darth Vader. But I'm never any of those things often enough to get a real shot at mastering them.
And without those opportunities to master the mechanics that make Battlefront unique, I'm quickly churned (in just 10 hours!)
Equipment and map numbers sound fine, but only four more heroes total is a big disappointment.
Edit: Unless that means 4 more Heroes and 4 more Villains, but I doubt it.
MADGAME
Member
There are game modes that let you be all those things virtually the time.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Pops Maellard
Member
This.
The minimalist UI is beautiful. Definitely the best UI I can think of in recent memory, although Fallout 4's XP/Health/AP was quite good as well.
Vehicles really need protection for like 30 seconds.
(He spawned as a TIE and got wrecked by an A-Wing as soon as he entered).
Thanks. Are the spawn points closer to the front or the characters able to travel faster or both or some other solution?
16 new maps sounds great. Maybe 1 or 2 new large maps plus a few smaller ones per pack?
What other heroes could they even bring over from OT if they don't do TFA content? Obi-wan, Yoda, Chewie for the rebels; some bounty hunters for the empire?
(We all know the heroes should really be
Nien Nunb, Porkins, Greedo and Salacious Crumb.
If it's only 4 more heroes, I'm betting they're all from TFA
Murder. She Wrote
Member
I've never gotten a season pass before, can I still get it, for example, six months from now? It just seems silly spending 60 bucks on ¯\_(ツ_/¯
_/¯Yeah, you can get it whenever.I've never gotten a season pass before, can I still get it, for example, six months from now? It just seems silly spending 60 bucks on ¯_(ツ
I've never gotten a season pass before, can I still get it, for example, six months from now? It just seems silly spending 60 bucks on ¯\_(ツ
There will likely be sales on it once a few of the packs have come out
Anton Sugar
Member
no geriatric han am cry
They're leaving money on the table with zero Hero/Villain skins and customization. Just one or two alts would be great:
Luke: Tattooine or Hoth Luke
Han Solo: Old Han Solo or Stormtrooper Solo
Leia: Bun Leia or Endor Leia
Darth Vader: Actually not sure if they could do anything here--could use Anakin but would probably need to license likeness
Palpatine: Senator Palpatine
Boba Fett: Jango Fett armor
I've never gotten a season pass before, can I still get it, for example, six months from now? It just seems silly spending 60 bucks on ¯\_(ツ
You can, and it will be cheaper later.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
DrGonzo615
Banned
No Old Solo?
They better not waste one of the four remaining Heroes on what would essentially be a reskin
- Status