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[Tal Shiar Agent]

Motive Studios is working on the campaign while DICE is solely working on the multiplayer for SWBF2.

 

[Zereta]

What? I figured the exact opposite; they held back through the entirety of this game's life stuff that they obviously want for the sequel. The entirety of Clone Wars and Force Awakens is missing from this game; stuff that one would have expected to have been there on launch.

I would temper expectations on that. I predict we'll get all (most, probably) of the content we ended up with in Battlefront and then Episode 7 stuff, with free 8 stuff after the movie comes out.

I think Prequel era is a dead zone that won't be touched just yet. 1 reason being it seems Lucasarts as a whole is still not willing to completely touch it (allowing for tiny references like Saw) and the second reason? They have to design a completely different type of gameplay for the Separatists.

Expect Battlefront 2 to be more Stormtrooper/First Order Stormtrooper versus Rebel/New Republic/Resistance.

And then a standalone Battlefront: Clone Wars at some point.

 

[PintSizedSlasher]

So.... Rogue one Walker Assault: is it one map only like Bespin? And I read somewhere that it's only two uplink phases?

 

[Ozorov]

So.... Rogue one Walker Assault: is it one map only like Bespin? And I read somewhere that it's only two uplink phases?

Looks like its two phases yes. At least the one they played on stream

 

[Ozorov]

Motive Studios is working on the campaign while DICE is solely working on the multiplayer for SWBF2.

I will have high hopes for Battlefront 2. I think it will blow the first one out of the water.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I will have high hopes for Battlefront 2. I think it will blow the first one out of the water.

I hope so. Especially since they don't have to make asset kits for forest, desert, snow, industrial, barren, tropical, Imperial, and Bespin maps this time.

 

[LoveCake]

What? I figured the exact opposite; they held back through the entirety of this game's life stuff that they obviously want for the sequel. The entirety of Clone Wars and Force Awakens is missing from this game; stuff that one would have expected to have been there on launch.

I didn't like any of the prequel films, and have not seen any of the sequels, I prefer the classic original films, I don't feel there is anything iconic enough in any of the prequels and only guessing the same for the sequels, take this current DLC (Rogue One) where I can play as Jyn Orso and/or Orson Krennic I honestly do not know who these people are (I had to just google the DLC to see who the hero's were/are).

I suppose my original comment was more about the classic scenes have been done in this game and the next game won't have any of the themes from the original three movies in it, to me this (the next SW:BF game) will mean I have no concept of who the characters are or the universe they are in, sort or meaning that it will be like playing Halo or COD because I cannot identify with them.

 

[WillyFive]

I didn't like any of the prequel films, and have not seen any of the sequels, I prefer the classic original films, I don't feel there is anything iconic enough in any of the prequels and only guessing the same for the sequels, take this current DLC (Rogue One) where I can play as Jyn Orso and/or Orson Krennic I honestly do not know who these people are (I had to just google the DLC to see who the hero's were/are).

I suppose my original comment was more about the classic scenes have been done in this game and the next game won't have any of the themes from the original three movies in it, to me this (the next SW:BF game) will mean I have no concept of who the characters are or the universe they are in, sort or meaning that it will be like playing Halo or COD because I cannot identify with them.

Ah, so you were just talking at your own personal level, which is fine.

However, the ability to play the Battle of Naboo, fight in Kamino, play in Mustafar, and experience there Battle of Coruscant in real time are things many Star Wars fans have been hoping to do with next-gen graphics for over a decade now.

The original Battlefront 2 included content from both OT and PT movies, and included the entirety of Episode 3 content at launch the same year the movie came out. DICE's game stretched the universe very very thin by constraining themselves to just the OT.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I'd only want them to do the OT and ST eras. They could include locations form the Clone Wars like Kashyyyk, the Imperial Center, etc, but I'd rather if they didn't do Clones vs Droids.

 

[5taquitos]

They could include locations form the Clone Wars like Kashyyyk.

Only if they show Yoda and Chewbacca being bros for some inexplicable reason.

 

[Ozorov]

It's up to Lucasarts what they can and can't use. Sounded on the stream that they've got downvoted a couple of times from their master.

 

[OldMan]

The SW Universe is VAST. Why limit your palette? That being said I'd be okay with a classic map pack revisioned.

Best regards,

OM

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I absolutely despise the Droid Army and Jango voiced clones.

 

[RyanW]

I absolutely despise the Droid Army and Jango voiced clones.

I'd be okay with special editions of the prequels with Clones having their Clone Wars voices

 

[Toa TAK]

The Clone Wars era is rich. It would be a complete waste not to have it in BFII.

 

[EatChildren]

I suspect with Battlefront 2 they'll steer away from a jack-of-all-trades design ala Battlefront and go for something more akin to Battlefield where there's one core mode which most game systems are built and balanced around, and offer optional modes on smaller map variations.

 

[WillyFive]

I suspect with Battlefront 2 they'll steer away from a jack-of-all-trades design ala Battlefront and go for something more akin to Battlefield where there's one core mode which most game systems are built and balanced around, and offer optional modes on smaller map variations.

I thought that's what this game did, and the exact opposite of Battlefield's jack of all trades design. It was this game that designed everything around Walker Assault, with all its big maps being linear and dependent on map pick ups for balance.

 

[pacman85]

I thought that's what this game did, and the exact opposite of Battlefield's jack of all trades design. It was this game that designed everything around Walker Assault, with all its big maps being linear and dependent on map pick ups for balance.

I totally agree and I actually want BF2 to be a jack of all trades using content from the entire Star Wars Universe. They should use BF1 as a base and expand/work from there.

 

[WillyFive]

I totally agree and I actually want BF2 to be a jack of all trades using content from the entire Star Wars Universe. They should use BF1 as a base and expand/work from there.

I think it's too late for them to do that. This game should definitely have been a Battlefield reskin, because that's what the original Battlefront games were and you don't hire the devs behind Battlefield to make a sequel to a Battlefield clone to...you know...not make Battlefield.

However, DICE has decided to make something very different with their game; and it would be best for them to double down and make it better next time for their version of Battlefront 2 instead of back-tracking and making essentially the original Battlefront 3 by taking BF1 and adding a Star Wars skin.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Battlefront is closer to Battlefield 1942 than the modern Battlefield games are. That's what the original Battlefront's were, Star Wars games using Battlefield 1942 (specifically) as a template.


I don't want SWBF2 to be a reskinned modern Battlefield game.

 

[LoveCake]

Battlefront is closer to Battlefield 1942 than the modern Battlefield games are. That's what the original Battlefront's were, Star Wars games using Battlefield 1942 (specifically) as a template.


I don't want SWBF2 to be a reskinned modern Battlefield game.

I like it how it is.

 

[WillyFive]

Battlefront is closer to Battlefield 1942 than the modern Battlefield games are. That's what the original Battlefront's were, Star Wars games using Battlefield 1942 (specifically) as a template.


I don't want SWBF2 to be a reskinned modern Battlefield game.

I think the distinction is misleading. The changes Battlefront 1 and 2 made to the Battlefield formula actually brought it closer to what modern Battlefield is like nowadays; more accessible and intuitive. Battlefront 2 and BF4 are more similar together than Battlefront 2 was to BF2142. A modern Battlefront should have been just like a modern Battlefield game.

 

[Toa TAK]

A modern Battlefront should have been just like a modern Battlefield game.

According to who?

They don't have to be following anything. I appreciated DICE's shake up.

 

[pacman85]

I think it's too late for them to do that. This game should definitely have been a Battlefield reskin, because that's what the original Battlefront games were and you don't hire the devs behind Battlefield to make a sequel to a Battlefield clone to...you know...not make Battlefield.

However, DICE has decided to make something very different with their game; and it would be best for them to double down and make it better next time for their version of Battlefront 2 instead of back-tracking and making essentially the original Battlefront 3 by taking BF1 and adding a Star Wars skin.

Sorry, I should have clarified but by BF1 I meant Battlefront 1 NOT Battlefield 1. Meaning they already have all of the original trilogy content (maps, heroes, weapons, etc) so they should keep that as a base and add to it for Battlefront 2. Keep building on what you have created and tweak it as necessary.

 

[WillyFive]

According to who?

They don't have to be following anything. I appreciated DICE's shake up.

The people who complained that the game was not Battlefront 3.

I agree that they need to double down on their shake-up, it's too late now to course correct; because then you'd anger the fans of the new Battlefront game.

 

[BattleMonkey]

As much as I would like clone wars stuff, they are gonna focus on Sequel trilogy stuff with the new movie coming out especially by the time BF2 is released.

 

[pacman85]

So what time tomorrow will this DLC be available for XBox One Season Pass holders?

 

[RyanW]

I thought that's what this game did, and the exact opposite of Battlefield's jack of all trades design. It was this game that designed everything around Walker Assault, with all its big maps being linear and dependent on map pick ups for balance.

I dislike how the bigger maps were just linear, or more like I hate how all the bigger modes were designed to be linear.

If done right you can have big maps designed for modes like Conquest and still work with linear modes like Walker Assault.

 

[LoveCake]

I do like how this (Rogue Squad DLC) and the Death Star DLC have a varied mode, flying then FPS then more flying, I hope they do this in the next game.

My original point about the next game:

I didn't like any of the prequel films, and have not seen any of the sequels, I prefer the classic original films, I don't feel there is anything iconic enough in any of the prequels and only guessing the same for the sequels, take this current DLC (Rogue One) where I can play as Jyn Orso and/or Orson Krennic I honestly do not know who these people are (I had to just google the DLC to see who the hero's were/are).

I suppose my original comment was more about the classic scenes have been done in this game and the next game won't have any of the themes from the original three movies in it, to me this (the next SW:BF game) will mean I have no concept of who the characters are or the universe they are in, sort or meaning that it will be like playing Halo or COD because I cannot identify with them.

And WillyFive's reply

Ah, so you were just talking at your own personal level, which is fine.

However, the ability to play the Battle of Naboo, fight in Kamino, play in Mustafar, and experience there Battle of Coruscant in real time are things many Star Wars fans have been hoping to do with next-gen graphics for over a decade now.

The original Battlefront 2 included content from both OT and PT movies, and included the entirety of Episode 3 content at launch the same year the movie came out. DICE's game stretched the universe very very thin by constraining themselves to just the OT.

Yes I agree, and I don't expect SW:BF2 to be just a graphical upgrade, but as I mentioned regarding the iconic scenes in the films, most of these are in the original three movies, the Walker Assault on Hoth BETA was what sold the game to a lot of people, I was not that keen on the game until I played this BETA and it's the longest I have played any FPS game and it's the only online-only FPS game I have owned, they will have Walker Assault in SW:BF2 I simply cannot imagine this mode not being in the game, also the Death Star DLC rescuing R2D2, what I suppose I am getting at is they haven't used up all the good stuff in this first game.

If SW:BF2 Is only sourced from the sequels Episode VII (The Force Awakens), Episode VIII and Rogue One: (A Star Wars Story) I think a lot will be feeling left out, I know I am being a 'stick in the mud' but I feel that the game must still be rooted in the source of the original films, it's not going to be a Star Wars (FPS) game without being able to play as Darth Vader or Luke Skywalker etc I mean they have to mix it up for SW:BF2 imo, however ( I really didn't like the prequels) and I cannot think of anything worse than being able to play as Jar Jar Binks!

Also what is the chance of this happening?

I would like and I hope somebody from EA/Dice reads this, for one last hurrah there is a DLC drop where by there is a Star Card that gives the use of a (colour customisable) lightsaber for time it takes to run down ( 10 seconds), yes it may be a bit of a game-breaker but wouldn't it be a epic finally for the game and it's players that have stayed the course (you would have to be a certain level, 101 for example).

 

[5taquitos]

Also what is the chance of this happening?

You want to give all level 100 players a lightsaber star card? No offense, but that sounds absolutely terrible.

 

[LoveCake]

You want to give all level 100 players a lightsaber star card? No offense, but that sounds absolutely terrible.

Only as a star card that lasts for ten seconds or so that can be used twice in a single game at level 101, I feel that we don't get enough Light Sabre action, just an idea I had for a one last hurrah for the game.

 

[Ozorov]

So no info on downtimes tomorrow on the servers yet?

 

[MADGAME]

Battlefront Updates interviewed a dev (Guillaume); here's some info and a link. Some exerpts below and lots more info in the vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jULR6gPHxE

• Hero bug on Extraction fixed, and you can now choose any hero you want. YES!
• Vader's multi-tasking - not an ability - can attack, saber throw, and block while force-choking mofos.
• Luke health buffed a little to 1,100.
• Chewbacca - Health buffed to 1,500, slightly faster movement speed, main Bowcaster projectile damage buffed.
• Bossk Predatory Vision fixed.
• Lando's Power Blast damage fixed, and slightly less homing.
• Han's Shoulder Charge hitbox increased to match Dengar's
• Dengar's Hurricane Strike damage display modified - same damage overall, but not 2 damage values for both charge and getting hit. Now you will only see one damage indicator.
• Leia's Trooper Bane can now be toggled off. Guillaume said he was able to fix Leia's Bane not killing Bacta'd troops, but not enough time to implement and will get it later. **Only evidence so far of a patch after this one**
• Extraction - fixed Medical Droid blocking Extraction cargo

 

[MADGAME]

So no info on downtimes tomorrow on the servers yet?

http://starwars.ea.com/starwars/bat...ate-downtime-december-6th-companion-ps4-x1-pc

December 6:
Schedule Patches (platform starts):
08:00 UTC Companion (1:00 AM PT / 4:00 AM ET)
08:00 UTC PC (1:00 AM PT / 4:00 AM ET)
10:00 UTC PS4 (3:00 AM PT / 6:00 AM ET)
12:00 UTC X1 (5:00 AM PT / 8:00 AM ET)
Full patch notes will be posted once the update is live.

 

[WillyFive]

If SW:BF2 Is only sourced from the sequels Episode VII (The Force Awakens), Episode VIII and Rogue One: (A Star Wars Story) I think a lot will be feeling left out, I know I am being a 'stick in the mud' but I feel that the game must still be rooted in the source of the original films, it's not going to be a Star Wars (FPS) game without being able to play as Darth Vader or Luke Skywalker etc I mean they have to mix it up for SW:BF2 imo, however ( I really didn't like the prequels) and I cannot think of anything worse than being able to play as Jar Jar Binks!

I don't think anyone is implying the addition of ST or PT content means that OT content will be removed.

 

[OldMan]

If we're talking a decade, there's plenty of leg room for all the Star Wars content, hell dating back to the old republic for the potential Battlefront 3. Focus on the current films while they're around.

I'm loving the tropical theme. That gives DICE another environment kit to make maps from for SWBF2.

Exactly.

 

[Oynox]

Do we already have full patch notes?

 

[PintSizedSlasher]

Do we already have full patch notes?

yes

 

[GeeTeeCee]

AI ships: Reduced the damage the AI vehicles deal. This change affects the AI support pick-ups from Y-wings, B-wings, TIE Defenders, & TIE bombers.

Today is a good day.

I'm surprised the TR-50 made it through unchanged.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

9GB and its taking 8 hours to download. Some days the PSN...

 

[PintSizedSlasher]

Trophies:

The one that's not visible is the usual play all maps trophy.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Patch ended up downloading in 12 minutes, but servers are still down.

http://swbstats.com/

I just want to check out the stuff before I go to work. Is that too much to ask?


Also, holy shit, Vader at trait level 3 will have 3,000 health.

 

[MrDaravon]

I think the Armor buff for Vader makes sense actually with him being the more plodding but powerful character (at least as portrayed here), but yeah that seems a bit ridiculous lol.

 

[Toa TAK]

Trophies:

The one that's not visible is the usual play all maps trophy.

Oh sweet. They made rank 100 an achievement.

 

[Oynox]

The patch sounds good but I am wondering why they patched the K-16 but not the TL-50 which was way stronger in my eyes...

I am really looking forward to new players from the Ultimate Edition and the EA Access version on Xbox One. Hopefully EA Access owners will get some kind of discount for the DLCs to fill the empty playlists. Feels like no one plays Outer Rim at all.

 

[MrDaravon]

PS4 servers just came up!

Edit: Well servers are up, but it says I don't have the Season pass so it won't let me access any of the DLC content or playlists lol.

 

[Experien]

On PS4 and in the game but can't DL VR Mission and Scariff doesn't appear to be anywhere. The button keeps directing me to the first DLC DL page.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Hopefully it's just because the servers aren't 100% up or something.

 

[Ozorov]

PS4 servers just came up!

Edit: Well servers are up, but it says I don't have the Season pass so it won't let me access any of the DLC content or playlists lol.

Have you tried to re-install the season pass thing?

 

[Nemic77]

PS4 servers just came up!

Edit: Well servers are up, but it says I don't have the Season pass so it won't let me access any of the DLC content or playlists lol.

Same here. Lot's of people reporting same problem as well.