The Elite
BOSS
I think Disney will own the rights to everything in the franchise, except Episode IV distribution rights, by 2020.
How they handle Saga sets should be interesting.
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Star Wars Episode 7 - Thread of Pre-Production
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I think Disney will own the rights to everything in the franchise, except Episode IV distribution rights, by 2020.
How they handle Saga sets should be interesting.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Keep Nolan away from Star Wars.
Ape Gone Insane
Member
I think people mean that the prequel zeitgeist is gonna be over, and by-and-large eclipsed by the new movies and the original movies. Doesn't seem like they'll keep pushing the prequel stuff very hard in the near future since having three active time periods might be kinda confusing.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Seriously, if he actually gave a fuck, he wouldn't have sold Lucasfilm. He doesn't have significant influence, nor does he want it. I don't get this argument. He owned 100% of his company, and then he SOLD 100% of his company to a completely different company. If he cared about exerting his influence on Star Wars, he wouldn't have gotten rid of it. The 2 billion in stock isn't a choke chain - it's just 2 billion dollars that could become 3 or 4 billion dollars without him having to a damn thing but sit around on his ass.
They'll remake Star Wars at some point. It's not in any way untouchable. It's not Lawrence of Arabia or Gone With the Wind. It's Star Wars. And the argument that the universe is big doesn't really ring true, either. The cinematic universe is in fact, pretty small. The MERCHANDISING universe is big, but as the thread has repeatedly pointed out, nobody making the movies seems to give that much of a shit about the merchandising universe.
They reset James Bond. They reset Star Trek, of all things. They'll get around to redoing Star Wars. And Lucas won't have to die first, I'm sure. People thought that he'd have to die before anyone else got creative control, and it turns out while we were all saying that, he was hiring Kathleen Kennedy and taking lunches with Bob Iger.
EON never remade a James Bond movie and Paramount never remade a Star Trek movie. Reboots are not remakes.
Count Dookkake
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Bobby Roberts
Banned
Nah, Paramount used Star Trek to remake Star Wars
Seriously though - the idea that Star Wars is untouchable, especially considering the dilution of the brand - and that's what it is more than anything, a brand, and not a cohesive storytelling experience - seems silly, to me. It's Star Wars.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Unless you want to drag Star Wars back from the gutter. Since he saved Batman and all.
I would offer Nolan 20 million up front plus 6% of the gross, toys etc............
Nah, Paramount used Star Trek to remake Star Wars
Seriously though - the idea that Star Wars is untouchable, especially considering the dilution of the brand - and that's what it is more than anything, a brand, and not a cohesive storytelling experience - seems silly, to me. It's Star Wars.
There is a big difference between outright remaking the OT and rebooting or restarting the franchise ala Casino Royale, Star Trek '09, Batman Begins, or The Amazing Spider-Man. None of those were remakes, I honestly can't think of an example of a full on complete remake for a big name geek franchise like this. It just isn't done. They won't remake it, I mean they are probably having Mark Hamill and the like in the new trilogy, that would make remaking them extremely odd since they are tying themselves so heavily to the OT as it is with the actors that played the roles.
Star Wars, even more so than those other movies and franchises, is a cultural touchstone.
Reboot? maybe (though even then, that would be a HUGE risk and the franchise would have to have had some kind of Matrix-esque collapse, and not even the prequels managed that). Remake? Incredibly unlikely.
Reboot? maybe (though even then, that would be a HUGE risk and the franchise would have to have had some kind of Matrix-esque collapse, and not even the prequels managed that). Remake? Incredibly unlikely.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I yield to the thread! My weary old head is full of brambles and cynicism.
The degrees between reboot/remake are not too large, though.
The degrees between reboot/remake are not too large, though.
The most likely scenario if they feel the franchise is getting too muddled and losing interest is to shift to a vastly different time period and do a full on restart without any connection to the previous films.
Which obviously Disney has little interest anytime soon in seeing how they are moving forward for the next ten years with direct sequels to Return of the Jedi.
If Disney at all felt the franchise needed a restart of any kind they wouldn't be doing Star Wars 7, a sequel to Return of the Jedi. They are tieing themselves down to the original films pretty blatantly here.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
I know he did, but his style is completely different to how Star Wars is. It doesn't fit here.
We don't need a "dark" Star Wars.
Anticitizen One
Banned
He saved Batman? That's why Dark knight rising didn't even sell as many tickets as Tim Burton's Batman movie did (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/22/batman-89-sold-more-tickets-than-the-dark-knight-rises)? Oh and Batman didn't need saving. He already had Bruce Timm and Paul Dini telling the best stories of his existence.
If Nolan was directing the characters would be completely unrecognizable, the iconic music replaced with mundane Hans Zimmer esque crap, the lightsabers would be removed for not being "realistic" enough and there would be some dumb plot twist towards the end of the film like "Luke was dead the whole time!"
Liquidsnake
Banned
But that is exactly what I want.
A very dark Star Wars.
In Hollywood TV is still regarded as garbage. Its all about film.
Nolan brought respect back to the franchise after it had almost been unsavable.
Count Dookkake
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Liquidsnake
Banned
Episode III was getting closer.
Im thinking Jedi in a dark cave struggling to stay good. fighting inner demons. Going through things we can never understand.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
But that is exactly what I want.
A very dark Star Wars.
"That is why you fail"
Ewan McGregor Open To Returning As 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' In STAR WARS EPISODE VII
I thought Ewen did a good job in the prequels, especially in Ep 3. To this generation of kids, he more than Alec Guiness is Obi-Wan. I guess he could be a Force ghost in Ep 7?
I thought Ewen did a good job in the prequels, especially in Ep 3. To this generation of kids, he more than Alec Guiness is Obi-Wan. I guess he could be a Force ghost in Ep 7?
Liquidsnake
Banned
He was perhaps the best casting choice made, and he saved all three prequels for me. I have so much respect for what he did with the role.
Anticitizen One
Banned
None of the prequel characters should return except Natalie Portman because she's hot and they need to retcon her absurd death.
This. Won't be remakes.
infinityBCRT
Member
Nope. They won't. There would be mass rebellion from the fans. Its smarter to just bite the bullet and perpetually give Fox whatever they are owed for Episode IV because they are still going to make a shit ton of money from their cut of that film (and make no mistake, they still will be making some money from Episode IV even if they have to give Fox a cut) plus the full cut from the other films. It makes too much business sense to do this for Disney, and the same for Fox.
You generally won't see MS and Sony or Nintendo ever working together in the video game industry (unless one of them eventually gets bought out or turns into a third party like Sega), but thats not how it works in other industries. They will work together when the opportunity makes sense.
infinityBCRT
Member
Agreed. He and Ian McDiarmid probably gave the best performances across the trilogy.
Anticitizen One
Banned
The problem with bringing back Ewok Mcgregor is that Disney would then have to pull a lucas and CG replace Alec guiness with Ewan in Episodes 4-6.
Can't there be multiple canons? I enjoyed the prequels as they came out and am looking forward to the new trilogy (although Indy 4 gave me a taste of what it's like to be extremely disappointed by a series' return), but I don't see what is so great about this new canon when it's not like Star Wars will be the vision of one creator. Is it just because Disney owns the rights? Is that what makes them "god?" There is something really depressing about that regardless of my opinion on the EU.
PS-Sorry for quoting you after you've been banned and can't respond. I know that it's not the best thing to do.
Anton Sugar
Member
Pretty much this. With the exception of a few, everyone was inexplicably terrible in the prequels. McGregor could have been so much better but the writing limited him, Sam Jackson was sleepwalking, McDiarmid hammed it up mightily, Smits had nothing to do, and I don't know what the fuck was going on with Natalie Portman.
Lucas managed to make Liam Neeson boring. Quite a feat.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Yes, McGregor was terrible in Episode III, just look at the delivery of some of the lines "I can't look anymore" "send me to kill the emperor" when he was watching the security recordings; that whole scene is off. Portman was equally awful with her fake cry in this movie.
Edit: Glad I'm not the only one. Yes, the are good actors, they have showed it in other movies, but they were awful in the prequels.
Disney will want to get as far away from the prequels as possible. They are tainted.
Edit: Glad I'm not the only one. Yes, the are good actors, they have showed it in other movies, but they were awful in the prequels.
Disney will want to get as far away from the prequels as possible. They are tainted.
Liquidsnake
Banned
The Elite
BOSS
Nah, Paramount used Star Trek to remake Star Wars
Seriously though - the idea that Star Wars is untouchable, especially considering the dilution of the brand - and that's what it is more than anything, a brand, and not a cohesive storytelling experience - seems silly, to me. It's Star Wars.
I'm confident they will eventually recast Indiana Jones yet I still don't think they will do remakes of the Star Wars films. I would have been entirely ok with them recasting the characters for the sequel trilogy though.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Disney knows the prequels suck and are ignoring them. I remember a year or two ago when Star Tours 2 got announced they had a fan conference with the Imagineers and the guy gets on stage and was like "I'm here to announce that Jar Jar will be the pilot this time around" when everyone went silent he was like "haha hell no". In all of Disney's talk so far they just want to use the main star wars trilogy as a baseline and build off of that.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Who knows, maybe there's other stuff we might agree in lol.
He is an excellent actor, he was fantastic in Trainspotting, and he did look the part in the prequels, just that there was nothing to play.
Why use the first Batman movie as an example? How were ticket sales trending for the following movies.
I thought McGregor was pretty bad in the prequels. Far from his best roles. He didn't have much to work with since his lines were usually really bad, but his performance was pretty wooden most of the time. Some good moments interspersed in there. The end fight and his "NOOOOOO!" there was pretty good.
what is it with Ricks?
But yeah he was fucking terrible. Watching his reactions to the dumb shit Lucas proposes in the making of doc to the Phantom Menace is both hilarious and depressing.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
lol
Well, largely the jedi are supposed to be calm and reserved. In Episode I, Obi-Wan is still young, so he's more emotional and excitable, but Ewan McGregor moves toward how Obi-Wan acted in Episode IV as the series progressed.
