Buh? That's not true at all. Just go look at any interview with any writer who was on TNG while he was still alive.
Unless you just mean the movies, in which case it's probably about right.
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Star Wars Episode 7 - Thread of Pre-Production
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Buh? That's not true at all. Just go look at any interview with any writer who was on TNG while he was still alive.
Unless you just mean the movies, in which case it's probably about right.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I meant the movies specifically, yeah. Shoulda clarified, sorry. Shatner's book about the making of the Star Trek movies goes into this quite a bit, as does Nicholas Meyer's book about his working with Star Trek. Basically, Harve Bennett boxed up Roddenberry as a means to stop him from essentially fucking up the deal he had at Paramount. Let him work on stuff they never intended on producing so he felt he was contributing.
Although the seasons of TNG when he was alive and actively contributing are recognized as not the best - but that's a different thread/argument.
Jables Swan
Member
I once had all those cans unopened lol. Sad nerd.
Ether_Snake
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There are really two ways JJA could go about it: be the "nice guy, professional, do what the studio wants, which means if Lucas is feeding you a lot of info it's because the studio wants to so shut up and put what he asks in the movie somehow", or "you guys signed me, if you're not happy don't sign me again". I wonder where it will go. I doubt putting Nimoy in Star Trek was his idea. Really seemed like a studio idea.
I still have Jar Jar band aids in a trunk with my other SW stuff in my parents' home.
Even sadder.
Jables Swan
Member
Are we sad? or just awesome?
Edit: I still have toy catalogues with all the Star Wars stuff, random magazines with Star Wars on the covers and heaps of other random Star Wars themed stuff from round the Episode 1 days. Even have one of these somewhere too.
Lionel Mandrake
Member
Remember when Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and KFC gave out Episode I pogs?
I swear to God I had like one Sebulba and about 10 unfinished C3POs.
I swear to God I had like one Sebulba and about 10 unfinished C3POs.
Remember when Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and KFC gave out Episode I pogs?
I swear to God I had like one Sebulba and about 10 unfinished C3POs.
Oh yes I remember those. LOL.
Jables Swan
Member
Remember when Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and KFC gave out Episode I pogs?
I swear to God I had like one Sebulba and about 10 unfinished C3POs.
Nice one. I never got any pogs but I did have all these Star Wars Tazos put away somewhere too.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Whoever made this understands Star Wars alot better than George Lucas apparently did:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tBM2ZfncoU
SW is not about hip looking monks swinging around glowsticks its about badass starfighter combat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tBM2ZfncoU
SW is not about hip looking monks swinging around glowsticks its about badass starfighter combat.
Disney has, so far, been shockingly restrained about Star Wars fan material.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Because he ruined Star Wars for a generation?
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
I've been debating long and hard how to respond to this and.. I got nothing. What in the fucking fuck?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Remember when Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and KFC gave out Episode I pogs?
I swear to God I had like one Sebulba and about 10 unfinished C3POs.
Scientists need to study these to decode the genome of the 90s.
Damn, you are fast. I only took a few seconds to edit my post out.
shira
Member
I wanna see the receipts.
Is he really giving the money to charity - or locking it into a tax sheltered charity "fund"
Sculli's ex-wife tips 20%?
Secret Fawful
Member
I can't even formulate a response....except to say how awesome this is. One guy animated this.....wow.
shira
Member
That was just mindless pew pew.
You have to relate to Porkins and Biggs and Wedge.
Otherwise it's just pew pew.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
They don't call me the fastest gun in Australia because I cum really quick.
Beermeister
Banned
And I'm out.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Don't want to spoil yourself before the big day, so you're bowing out early? You're a bigger man than I.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Also, that news about Williams is great. I almost missed it.
Beermeister
Banned
His track record speaks for itself... crap.
I disagree, but to each their own.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Hype! Williams coming back would be fantastic.
I'm sorry but Williams should be put out to pasture. His better years are long behind him. I hope Abrams bring on Giacchino.
It's pretty likely. An Abrams win is a pretty much always a Giacchino win.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Would it be weird if we had a bit of both? I love Giacchino, but JW's work for the prequel trilogy was damned good.
That Across the Stars was wasted on Episode II's love story pains me to no end.
Ape Gone Insane
Member
Sure. I hear this crap all the time, whether for films or video games, and in the majority of times, the person will still end up seeing the film or trying the game.
Then you'll be here or somewhere else offering your opinion on it.
so, so true. What a magnificent piece. It made me buy the soundtrack. Funny how it conveyed all the right emotions the actors couldn't.
shira
Member
Those melodies aren't hard to make. It turns into shit in the middle.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
I have no idea how it was made. All I know is that it sounds beautiful.
Exactly how I feel
BattleMonkey
Member
He came back and did the prequels which were just as good if not better even in the music department... the only good thing about the prequels really.
SW never was focused on badass starfighter combat outside of the few minutes of the ending of the first movie. SW is all about the whole package, which the prequels lacked as it focused primarily on the jedi. Only one decent space battle in the whole prequel series. But where was the good scoundrels and underworld? Politics? Who asked for politics in star wars! Most of all, they need memorable characters and a cast you will actually enjoy, not a bunch of pompous jedi talking and politics that make little sense. SW OT had one of the most quotable lines in movie history, yet no one cares what anyone said in the prequels.
Anton Sugar
Member
You're absolutely wrong. There are tons of quotable lines from the prequels. They're hilarious!
I agree with you, though I think that the actual idea of politics in Star Wars was not a bad choice...it's just that, like everything else, it was executed so poorly and was focused around the most boring aspects of that plotline. I would have loved to get a well-thought out story that involved political intrigue and deception. Best recent example I've seen of a story that successfuly melded politics with action is Game of Thrones Season 1.
x Power Pad Death Stomp x
Member
I'm pretty sure my friends and I have said "NOW THIS IS PODRACING!" more than any other line in the saga over the last few years......
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
You kinda forgot the Battle of Endor in there. And the asteroid chase in ESB. And even the TIE Fighter shootout in Star Wars. While I generally agree SW is about the "total package", thrilling space combat is more than a few minutes in one movie. The prequels were missing them.. or missing good ones, anyway.
And yeah, I don't know why but I remember a lot of lines from Phantom Menace, haha. Especially the Neimoidians. "No need to report that until there is something to report!"
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
I love Giacc as much as anybody and would love to see him score a Star Wars film. But you don't say no to John Williams when he's open to scoring a Star Wars film. JJ is a much more vibrant director than Lucas and it will be great to see Williams scoring to images that have the energy for him to rise to. Williams did all the heavy lifting in the prequels.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Oh yeah, I missed the posts saying Williams should be skipped.
Sorry, if John Williams still wants to score Star Wars, you let him. The end. Maybe you keep someone on speed dial considering the dude's 80, but as long as he's got all his faculties, it would be almost reprehensible to turn him down. Also, the prequel scores were fantastic, Lucas just murdered them in the editing room.
Sorry, if John Williams still wants to score Star Wars, you let him. The end. Maybe you keep someone on speed dial considering the dude's 80, but as long as he's got all his faculties, it would be almost reprehensible to turn him down. Also, the prequel scores were fantastic, Lucas just murdered them in the editing room.
I'd go as far to say some of his work on the prequels are the best of Williams entire career, he really gets inspired by that universe. Duel of Fates and Across the Stars are downright incredible. I'd honestly put across the stars on my top 5 Williams tracks of all time despite it being from that awful movie.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Williams still has it. Not like the prequels were a drop in quality like Shore's work on The Hobbit.
Lionel Mandrake
Member
Let's let Danny Elfman do the score. It'll be funny.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Williams should step down. Star Wars needs a fresh sound
They're going to keep making movies for a long time, one more with Williams won't change that.