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Star Wars Episode 7 - Thread of Pre-Production
- Thread starter Ape Gone Insane
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Some people are just too bitter and can't let go of their hate.
Don't forget that Revenge of the Sith was PG-13. And a lot of the SW films are pretty violent (severed limbs galore, disembowelment).
You're right he just stole someone else's idea and put it in space.
Lindelof won't be coming anywhere near the new SW movies...at least the first one. He's busy with a couple other projects.
In theory all of them should be busy. Lindelof had the Bird project, Orzi and Kurtzman have TF4 and ST3, but I'm terrified they might take some special 'time off' and plow through it.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Just respect the art of a good old fashioned lightsaber battle is all I'm asking. No spinning, no twirls, no double lightsabers, just fights that have some kind of weight and meaning behind them.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I could ask you to read, see and listen to everything I have on the subject (Good luck with that.) and it would be just as valid. You're being ridiculous.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Fuckin' Star Wars threads man.
The movie is being filmed early 2014. The script is done.
I think Abrams knows well enough to keep those guys away from SW. Their resumes are quite awful when you take away the two ST films. Even then the ST scripts aren't very good, but Abrams' direction is what made them fun and entertaining films despite narrative flaws.
I have no fear. Plus Lindelof seems aware enough of how much people hate his writing, especially after Prometheus (even if he wasn't entirely to blame there). Nevertheless I think it's a combination of Abrams wanting to distance SW from the ST writers as well as knowing that the fans would not be optimistic about any of those three working on SW.
Mutanthands
Member
Yeah...yeah.
I'm fully aware this isn't a serious concern(unless it becomes one). I would rather take Lucas writing over Lindelof/O/K writing any day of the week.
fastford58
Member
Exterminieren
Banned
"Even" the Star Trek scripts aren't very good?
The scripts for Abrams' Star Treks are amongst the most dysfunctional seen in Hollywood blockbusters for years. Only the direction, performances and design keep them afloat.
The scripts for Abrams' Star Treks are amongst the most dysfunctional seen in Hollywood blockbusters for years. Only the direction, performances and design keep them afloat.
Count Dookkake
Member
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Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
This is of high importance. Keep them to a minimum.
Jables Swan
Member
I can't wait.
Because Greedo shot first, and because Jedi Rocks, and because Han stepping on Jabba's tail, and because R2D2 hiding behind rocks, and because Vader Noooo, and because the entire Prequel Trilogy, and because the Ewoks. In recent years, Lucas has done more harm than good to the series. His touch has become poison. Some people can hardly remember a time when it was gold, or if they do, they think it was some sort of lie.
Disney and JJ Abrams are turning back the clock, to a time before the madness, and promising to carry on in Lucas' grand and golden tradition. There's room enough for two kinds of fear here, one is that Lucas might somehow ruin this as well, and two is that Disney and JJ might not be able to match the golden era of Lucas. Or the two might even combine (Disney and JJ ruin the series themselves by deliberately reproducing the poison hand of Lucas, not understanding how it's different from the golden one, I mean, both hands made lots of money).
Oooh that's a toss up for me. But I think I'd pick Lucas for the sheer reason that he just sort of writes whatever comes to his head and doesn't flinch.
Marion Cobretti
Member
If the last two Star Trek movies are anything to go by, I have complete faith in Abrams to make this movie exactly what it needs to be.
Can't wait to see what they come up with. I can't imagine how hard of a task this is.
Is this 2015?
Can't wait to see what they come up with. I can't imagine how hard of a task this is.
Is this 2015?
He either doesn't know how bad they are or doesn't care.
Lindelof is pretty self-aware of how he's received, but he wouldn't let that stop him from getting a job (nor should he), especially when it's fucking Star Wars.
I'd bank on Abrams knowing. He works with those guys because he knows how they write, and he just needs someone to put the story he wants to tell into the form of a script. I'm not saying it's such a callous process, just that Abrams sticks with them because at the very least he knows what to expect and he knows how they write.
Nah, even a guy like Lindelof knows well enough that a lifetime of nearly universal hatred from SW fans just wouldn't be worth it.
It's a small thing, but I would like to see the lightsabers interact with the environment. They hardly ever casted a glow on other objects in the movies, and they had no interaction with water. The fight on Kamino should have seen the lightsabers steaming as the rain hit them...
Jables Swan
Member
This. Totally this.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Dogfights.
Lots and lots of dogfights.
I will be HAPPY.
Lots and lots of dogfights.
I will be HAPPY.
IamMattFox
Member
Either that or they go in the complete other direction and have Luke use his to pop open a space beer prior to his "getting back in the game" space montage.
Count Dookkake
Member
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I'd be willing to bet a great deal of money that there will be some kind of big twist.
CitizenVectron
Member
The important thing to remember about the OT vs PT is that in the OT the lightsaber fights weren't about the sabers, they were about the characters and plot conflict. In the PT they were about swiish vroom bzzz. There was more seriousness and plot progression in TESB's saber fight on Cloud City than in the entire PT.
Use the fights to move the plot, not as action set pieces. If you can take the fight out and still make the plot work then the fight doesn't need to be there.
IamMattFox
Member
Now I'll be upset if this doesn't happen.
I wouldn't count on it. Abrams isn't exactly known for holding back on excess, is he?
Going by Star Trek (the one Abrams film I've seen), I don't think the quieter moments in the original films are going to be in this new trilogy. It's probably going to be all action, all the time.
brandonh83
Banned
I say more lightsabers.
Rastafarian42
Member
You think the next Star Wars will be paced similar to Star Trek as well ? That was one thing I was hoping he would bring to Star Wars.
Count Dookkake
Member
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I do too, but this is Abrams we're talking about here.
There will be lightsabers, and lots of them.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I think the tack he took with the Star Trek reboot will absolutely be the same tack he takes with Star Wars. It's more or less the same tack he took with Super 8, really.
He's doing combination homage/remixes, here. He's going to take pre-existing imagery that's memorable, put his own spin on it, and repurpose it to fit the story he's working with, in a way that those images work on a completely different audience, but for very similar reasons.
Will Star Wars be paced as breakneck as Star Trek or Into Darkness was? I'd guess it'll be a little bit slower than both - although Star Trek 09 wasn't COMPLETELY "go go go." There were stopdowns and resting spots.
But I do think that his Star Wars movie is likely going to move faster, and allow itself to be way more emotional than the prequels did.
He's doing combination homage/remixes, here. He's going to take pre-existing imagery that's memorable, put his own spin on it, and repurpose it to fit the story he's working with, in a way that those images work on a completely different audience, but for very similar reasons.
Will Star Wars be paced as breakneck as Star Trek or Into Darkness was? I'd guess it'll be a little bit slower than both - although Star Trek 09 wasn't COMPLETELY "go go go." There were stopdowns and resting spots.
But I do think that his Star Wars movie is likely going to move faster, and allow itself to be way more emotional than the prequels did.
Kitschkraft
Member
I was recently browsing some OT scenes on youtube and came across that deleted Return scene of Luke building his lightsaber.
Imagine a cold open to the trailer, similar to this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ayT0EZwbks&feature=player_detailpage#t=85s
I'd lose it.
The most encouraging thing about these new films is NO JEDI COUNCIL. Whoever the force users are, they can be more like Luke, they can actually show some damn emotion and won't have the in-universe dogma holding them back.
Jables Swan
Member
This even more. Dogfights are a must.
Kitschkraft
Member
I'm glad, I don't really like most of the EU stuff (Even though I'm unfamiliar with most of it, the stuff I read online is ridiculous).
The Emperor transferring his aura into clones for instance. Hate that mess.
Also hate small things like the kids being named after other people. "Anakin Solo" "Ben Skywalker"....no sir I don't like it.
Destroy it all.
I'm iffy on this. I know that a lot of people liked the beginning of Episode 3 but I was bored. I obviously like the trench run, and Lando at the end of Return is my favorite dogfight ever, but it's all about the characters for me.
One of the most underrated pieces of music in Star Wars : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3IIeNorhVU&feature=player_detailpage#t=96s
Thug Waffle
Member
Into Darkness is a clusterfuck of unnecessary and ineffective shot comp/editing. Coverage when it isn't needed, masters of an awesome set for half-seconds, close-ups so frequent that they don't mean anything anymore.
If JJ's Star Wars is anything like that, I'll rage. Doubt it will be, though.
brandonh83
Banned
I don't want this and Jurassic Park 4 in the same summer. God knows I would fucking die.