higgsboson1997
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Trevorrow is pretty good, I don't get the hate. Rooting for him to do a decent job.
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STAR WARS: EPISODE IX gets a new writer: Jack Thorne
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LMAO. Yeah unfortunately.
I agree with getting rid of the director.
But Lucasfilm getting this writer is the best thing they could have hoped for.
This should be added the OP.
I swear I will develop supernatural powers to slap people over the internet if that is what it takes.
Killer Queen
Banned
But, he literally did and even admitted to things changing post Carrie Fisher's passing hence why he no longer has any involvement.
Rowling has explicitly stated that Cursed Child is canon with the novels.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/615498601809211393
I can't say I've seen him say he did a treatment, and they have said they've changed stuff because of Carrie's death, but not that this changed Rian's whole treatment. Not calling you a liar but I honestly can't remember this being the case.
His treatment of women in his films makes some justifiably skeptical of the notion that he is the best choice to close out Rey's trilogy.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Carrie's death prompted a page one rewrite from Connolly and Trevorrow. I believe Johnson said he'd never written them a treatment before that had occurred.
So basically, if Johnson is to be believed (and it'd be a weird thing to lie about) he never wrote a treatment, and so Trevorrow and Connolly never worked from it.
Fisher's death didn't affect anything Johnson worked on.
So basically, if Johnson is to be believed (and it'd be a weird thing to lie about) he never wrote a treatment, and so Trevorrow and Connolly never worked from it.
Fisher's death didn't affect anything Johnson worked on.
Psychoward
Banned
Hahaha I never read it because it sounded like awful fanfic, glad I stayed away after reading this.
Fancyarcher
Member
This guy wrote the screenplay to Cursed Child. What a random person to go to, to write the script.
Yes this is certainly his only known credit.
Nappuccino
Member
Or maybe The Book of Henry got the producers looking over his shoulder.
Yeah I mean it's so weird to pick a guy who wrote a random play script with no acclaimed film or tv experience....what the are you talking about?
Master Of Illusion
Member
If they're just announcing this rewrite now, this movie will get delayed to Christmas 2019 the earliest as I doubt they want to rush a trilogy movie (of all things).
Maybe LucasFilm finally saw a cut of VIII and thought Return Of The Jedi / Revenge Of The Sith level Star Wars doesn't cut it anymore?
Maybe LucasFilm finally saw a cut of VIII and thought Return Of The Jedi / Revenge Of The Sith level Star Wars doesn't cut it anymore?
I hope so.
Dr Zhivago
Member
Everyone should watch The Fades.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
While I'm glad he and Connolly are no longer writing, it's still disappointing Trevorrow's directing given his bland, unremarkable style of direction, devoid of any real personality or vision. Even Bay and Snyder have clear visions well represented on screen with a definable directorial style.
Also, do we actually know why he was brought in, who brought him in, and if he's writing Trevorrow's story or his own? It's possible Trevorrow and Connolly had him brought on board because they were having troubles figuring out what to do without Carrie, rather than say, being brought in by Lucasfilm to edge them out of the writer's room.
Also, do we actually know why he was brought in, who brought him in, and if he's writing Trevorrow's story or his own? It's possible Trevorrow and Connolly had him brought on board because they were having troubles figuring out what to do without Carrie, rather than say, being brought in by Lucasfilm to edge them out of the writer's room.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Rian Johnson has yet to make a bad movie, and arguably, has exclusively made pretty damn good movies. I trust that TLJ will be good.
Those are two pretty different levels you mention there. I'd certainly be happy with a movie that had some of the best scenes in the franchise with a few bits of silliness here and there. I certainly wouldn't be happy with a movie that botched every single important scene it had.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Surprising pick but I've enjoyed quite a few of the shows he's worked on.
I don't want to pick on Treverrow again but I'm a bit more optimistic now.
I don't want to pick on Treverrow again but I'm a bit more optimistic now.
I still think Han Solo is getting pushed back to December 2018, which will in turn push IX back to December 2019.
I don't understand why Disney would want to throw Star Wars in the summer when they legitimately have the ability to take ownership of the holiday movie season every single year.
WadiumArcadium
Member
I was surprised they didn't announce Han's film had been pushed back when Howard joined. I have a feeling it still will be.
The Maverick
Member
The middle Star Wars movie will remain the best, as usual. Not confident about IX.
AOTC?
Bucket Mouse
Member
LET ME SAY
I went to see the Cursed Child last year and had a fun time! I didn't actually read the script beforehand, I just knew that several of my close friends (whose opinions I trust) said that it was awful. So I went in with very low expectations and...actually, it works very well as a stage play. The cast were excellent (and hilarious!), the choreography of the scene changes was inventive and the practical magic effects were very impressive - these are things cannot be conveyed through a barebones script. So here's the thing - before I come off as an apologist, the plot itself is like officially signed-off fan fiction. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, though. I view it as a nice "What If' story that gives you an excuse to see All Your Favourite Characters again. I couldn't care less about its canon or non-canon status.
I think a big problem people have with it (dubious plot twists aside) is precisely that - it was marketed, somewhat cynically, as The Eighth Book. That was absolutely a mistake. I enjoyed what I saw on stage like I enjoyed the Terminator ride at Universal Studios - it was a frivolous plot set in a hypothetical future designed as a vehicle for pure spectacle and fanservice - and no one would seriously scrutinise that plot as an affront to the Terminator series.
I went to see the Cursed Child last year and had a fun time! I didn't actually read the script beforehand, I just knew that several of my close friends (whose opinions I trust) said that it was awful. So I went in with very low expectations and...actually, it works very well as a stage play. The cast were excellent (and hilarious!), the choreography of the scene changes was inventive and the practical magic effects were very impressive - these are things cannot be conveyed through a barebones script. So here's the thing - before I come off as an apologist, the plot itself is like officially signed-off fan fiction. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, though. I view it as a nice "What If' story that gives you an excuse to see All Your Favourite Characters again. I couldn't care less about its canon or non-canon status.
I think a big problem people have with it (dubious plot twists aside) is precisely that - it was marketed, somewhat cynically, as The Eighth Book. That was absolutely a mistake. I enjoyed what I saw on stage like I enjoyed the Terminator ride at Universal Studios - it was a frivolous plot set in a hypothetical future designed as a vehicle for pure spectacle and fanservice - and no one would seriously scrutinise that plot as an affront to the Terminator series.
sixteen-bit
Member
Wonder how they write around Fisher's absence. That's gotta be a delicate subject.
Wait, you're telling me the buzz around The Last Jedi is that positive?
Or do you think the reviews will be glowing either way because it's a numbered SW entry?!
It's been out over a year, people openly discuss plot points of media at that point.
Captain Skeleton
Member
I swear I will develop supernatural powers to slap people over the internet if that is what it takes.
He wrote National Treasure? He's too good for Star Wars.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
You know how you can't avoid a discussion about superhero movies turning to like 30 or 40 people immediately crying that so-and-so should just give X to Marvel?
This will be that, but it'll be "Just give Star Wars to Rian"
Have you been living under a rock? It's Rian Johnson. There is whispers it could be the best film in the franchise, period.
Well, I loved his other stuff, but I was under the impression that The Last Jedi could also easily become like Iron Man 2 or too much like Empire with Disney interfering. At least that was my impression with the latest news on Star Wars/Han and Rouge One turning out a bit meh.
This is excellent. Most excellent.
Oh get out, this is a star wars thread, though I know he was involved in the script I still feel like It's simple courtesy to add that.
Rogue One was a messy production because Gareth Edwards was in over his head. Kathleen Kennedy saved it.
Han Solo appears to have had a problem where the directors were not making the movie that Lucasfilm thought they were going to make. Unknown how that will turn out.
Disney does not seem to have a heavy hand in these movies, like how they don't dictate to Marvel how to make their movies.
Disney does not interfere with Lucasfilm. Disney didn't make the call to fire the Han directors, Kathy Kennedy did. They do not tell Lucsfilm what to do, they don't get involved in the filmmaking element. That is well established.
Rian Johnson said he had just as much creative freedom on TLJ as he has on all his other films, that he never once was told what he can or cannot do. Had total creative freedom.
Is it me or is it odd that there doesn't appear to be any creative connective tissue between Episodes 7,8 and 9?
Three films. Three different directors. Did they like start from scratch when they sat down to prepare their film?
While the rewrite itself isn't a big deal of here it's still a bit odd to me.
Three films. Three different directors. Did they like start from scratch when they sat down to prepare their film?
While the rewrite itself isn't a big deal of here it's still a bit odd to me.
Well, the original trilogy had 3 different directors as well.
I imagine working on these projects in any prominent capacity often proves to be absolutely exhausting, hence the need to change the guard with every new installment.
Plus, this way it should allow each film in this new trilogy to feel somewhat distinctive in comparison to each another, which I think is very much a good thing.
TBH this is what happened with the other two trilogies as well. The only one where George knew what he wanted to do in advance was RotS.
Hmm? George directed and wrote all the prequel films.