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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer

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Heard from a coworker that they were in some sort of bar/restaurant watching the game and it was noisy and rowdy as usual, but when the trailer came on everyone went silent. After it was done everyone cheered.

Exciting to hear stories outside I'm my nerdy circle.
 
bill0527 said:
What's wrong with fan service and nostalgia?

For the love of christ will someone please articulate in a thoughtful manner, just what exactly is wrong with fan service and nostalgia?

Isn't fan service exactly what you want in this scenario? So many of us were turned off by the prequels, I am more than happy, and almost at masturbatory levels of pleasure with excitement to think that this trilogy is going to run the other way from the last one.

If that's fan service, then give it to me all over my face.
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Fan service isn't inherently a bad thing. It only becomes bad when a film tips over the line of homage or fan service to vacant emulation. Into Darkness for example shamelessly stole from Wrath of Kahn but not in a way that at all improved on what it was riffing. Abrams has a bit of a bad habit of doing this in a lot of his films.
 
SpaceWolf said:
When 900 years old you reach, look as good, you will not!
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TheJollyCorner said:
I like how much is being kept under wraps, particularly characters. This 'final' trailer could have easily been just a big character dump, but it was very restrained.

-No Luke (beyond the cloaked 'hand' from the last teaser)
-No 3P0
-No Domhnall Gleeson
-No whoever Serkis is apparently voicing
-No Max von Sydow
-Not much on Phasma other than quick snips of looking awesome
-No direct shot of Lupita's character other than a tiny image on the poster

I love it.
Can't wait.
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I cannot believe how well all the teasers have come about. This last trailer owns me so hard, I am tearing up.

Such childhood memories.

Even my gf who has never seen a SW movie is willing to watch entire 6 movies before the launch with me. WOWOWOOW
 
brandonh83 said:
I've seen several posters yell nostalgia pandering at everything, for this movie, for other sequels. Even before we saw anything from Force Awakens, people were saying that since Abrams is doing it and he's a "fanboy" that it'll be nothing but nostalgia pandering-- when it's very sensible, being a straight up sequel, to have characters and elements carry over.

So forgive me if I think that people are using it as a criticism, because that's exactly how its always felt to me. There's a new story, new main characters, there's even a new iconic droid in BB-8, and not just R2/3PO again (though they'll be in it). But people hear about the original actors coming back, and it's all just nostalgia pandering/retreading.
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The thing with Abrams is that pandering is his schtick. He uses it as a device. When he made Super 8, the whole point was to use tricks and nostalgia to remind you of Spielberg's 80's classics.

With star trek he did the same, he user Spielberg and the remake angle with a side of (hey it's Leonard Nimoy, remember that guy?) may you live loong and prooosper

Then with Into Darkness, he tried to bring up Khan and his infamous line, but failed miserably.

Now he is doing Star Wars, and it's a huge callback to the New Hope. You can see the pattern here. He's not the kind of a directory that sets trends in the industry. His schtick is to use your childhood memories.

That's what it was about, but everyone still hopes that beyond that, we get a legitimately good movie with something new on the plate for the next generation.

Ithil said:
It's not like he wrote Into Darkness, you know.
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He was still the Director. He had the say and the influence.
 
guek said:
Fan service isn't inherently a bad thing. It only becomes bad when a film tips over the line of homage or fan service to vacant emulation. Into Darkness for example shamelessly stole from Wrath of Kahn but not in a way that at all improved on what it was riffing. Abrams has a bit of a bad habit of doing this in a lot of his films.
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It's not like he wrote Into Darkness, you know.
 
smorgasbird said:
When real people talk, verbal shortcuts are used. Hyperbole is a figure of speech with the motivation of expressing strong opinions. You're taking it literally as though people have boycotted the movie.
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People obviously aren't boycotting the movie over it, except racists. But I see nostalgia pandering complaints a lot, even before there's any foundation. It is what it is, I guess.
 
TheJollyCorner said:
I like how much is being kept under wraps, particularly characters. This 'final' trailer could have easily been just a big character dump, but it was very restrained.

-No Luke (beyond the cloaked 'hand' from the last teaser)
-No 3P0
-No Domhnall Gleeson
-No whoever Serkis is apparently voicing
-No Max von Sydow
-Not much on Phasma other than quick snips of looking awesome
-No direct shot of Lupita's character other than a tiny image on the poster

I love it.
Can't wait.
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- No Luke because they want you to forget about him for a bit (he has a bigger role in the next one)
- C-3PO is with Leia, you'll see him in the movie
- Gleeson is in there just far away, standing with the First Order when the stormtroopers turn around.
- Same thing with Serkis, except he is the guy in front.
- Haven't seen Sydow yet.
- quick shot of Phasma
- correct on Lupita's character
 
Busty said:
Why? If this wasn't Star Wars people would be wondering what the fuck was going on? It doesn't tell us anything about the plot of the film.

You've gotten so swept up in the fan service you've completely lost sight of the fact that some people were left underwhelmed by what is a pretty superficial final trailer for the film.
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This plays more like a first trailer to be honest. Like you said before, I also find it strange that they're adamant in hiding anything about the plot of the movie (I guess it's a JJ thing?). Unless you're reading spoilers you wouldn't even know the basic set up of the flick. Hell I've read some spoilers and I don't know.
 
When looking at Epi V and Epi 1 trailers... will we ever look back on 2015 trailers (VII, for example) and think "how the fuck could that hype us? Such a shit trailer".

?
 
brandonh83 said:
People obviously aren't boycotting the movie over it, except racists. But I see nostalgia pandering complaints a lot, even before there's any foundation. It is what it is, I guess.
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People really boycotted the movie because of an actor's skin color? D: Geez.

By the way. I re-read what I wrote and I apologize if it sounded snarky. What I meant by "when real people talk" is that what people actually mean doesn't necessarily really come across on the Internet.
 
Yoshichan said:
When looking at Epi V and Epi 1 trailers... will we ever look back on 2015 trailers (VII, for example) and think "how the fuck could that hype us? Such a shit trailer".

?
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I prefer the old trailers, because they didn't show you most of the story. Nowadays you can piece together most of the film's flow just by the trailers that release.

Someone did that w/ Age of Ultron, and it pretty much laid out the entire movie.
 
Real Hero said:
Han is so going to die isn't he? He seems like the obi wan of that trailer. Maybe him AND Chewie, but don't think they will pass up the idea of a truly pissed chewbacca
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I have a feeling Han will die and, knowing this, Chewie will fly the Falcon into some big ass reactor to some big ass ship/weapon and kamikaze save everyone.
 
Ithil said:
It's not like he wrote Into Darkness, you know.
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But he did direct it. His filmography isn't that deep but he had a lot of nostalgia pandering in both Star Trek films, and Super 8 arguably failed in its attempt to emulate Spielberg. I think, based on the director's history, it's a legit concern. That doesn't mean it absolutely will fall into the same traps. Hopefully they strike a good balance.
 
nemss said:
I prefer the old trailers, because they didn't show you most of the story. Nowadays you can piece together most of the film's flow just by the trailers that release.

Someone did that w/ Age of Ultron, and it pretty much laid out the entire movie.
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I like how they didnt show that spoiler thats on all the posters once in any of the trailers...
 
I had written off Star Wars. The prequel trilogy completely ruined the flicks for me. But I'll be damned, this trailer... I'm so goddamned exited.
 
sphagnum said:
What? Tales From a Galaxy Far, Far Away (which is all about short stories featuring the aliens from the Variety photos) comes out in December, as does the e-novel "The Perfect Weapon". Before the Awakening also comes out in December. Battlefront: Twilight Company comes out in November. There's also the TFA novelization. And they've already announced Aftermath: Life Debt and New Republic: Bloodline for next year.
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XD
 
bill0527 said:
What's wrong with fan service and nostalgia?

For the love of christ will someone please articulate in a thoughtful manner, just what exactly is wrong with fan service and nostalgia?

Isn't fan service exactly what you want in this scenario? So many of us were turned off by the prequels, I am more than happy, and almost at masturbatory levels of pleasure with excitement to think that this trilogy is going to run the other way from the last one.

If that's fan service, then give it to me all over my face.
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I like Star Trek and Star Trek Into Darkness, but there are some things I'm not too hot about. There are things that I think make them derivative works rather than classics in their own right. For a start, the characters are all new takes on old characters, and in Spock we have two versions of the same character. A lot of the appeal is hoisted on seeing those characters repeat things we've seen before or say things we've seen them say before, in huge nudge nudge wink winks to the fan of old. Stuff like including the Kelvin in the first one, and Khan in the second -- yes, there's a time travelling reason to revisit these things, but in a sense you're sacrificing a lot of celluloid (or digital film) for those things when you could be doing something new.

My concern with the very first Force Awakens trailer was that he was doing the same thing with this movie...

The Falcon, Han, Tie Fighters, Storm Troopers.. the Empire is supposed to be no more, but it initially appeared as though JJ just went back to the OT material and resurrected the same old villains. You might argue he still sort of has, especially with the
starkiller base effectively being Death Star #3
. There's a LOT of reliance on old stuff. Having said that, this new trailer does pique my interest in a lot of ways. For the first time I'm really seeing that post-Empire universe. Decaying ship ruins, modified ships, a new dark order of villains. They're consistently using only select locations and scenarios in these trailers and it seems they are deliberately keeping a lot from us, and I'm growing in confidence that JJ has the biggest slam dunk of his life on his hands. If this movie creates fresh, new, treasured lore - while deeply respecting what has come before (all of it) -- this is what could write him in to the ages.

Another of my concerns was that he wasn't fully embracing the cinematrophy and visual language of the old movies. There was a lot of the familiar 'things' and costumes, but in terms of camera movement and edits, it looked a bit un-Star-Warsy to me in early trailers (the handheld shot following Ren in to the woods for example). I was fearing lens flares and over-use of modern technique, maybe less of the old directional fade and circle wipes. That worry has dissolved from me greatly. There's a bit of lens flare from the bridge of a ship (or base?) in the trailer, but it actually looks like it makes sense.

Like everyone else, I'm now excited.
 
When the Millennium Falcon is first shown, that song that plays (it's a new take on an OT theme)... what theme is it?


In this shot:

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nemss said:
I prefer the old trailers, because they didn't show you most of the story. Nowadays you can piece together most of the film's flow just by the trailers that release.

Someone did that w/ Age of Ultron, and it pretty much laid out the entire movie.
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Well that's a total lie.
 
raphier said:
The thing with Abrams is that pandering is his schtick. He uses it as a device. When he made Super 8, the whole point was to use tricks and nostalgia to remind you of Spielberg's 80's classics.
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All of that is true. But he never tried to trick anyone with Super 8. He blatantly said that it was an homage to Spielberg-- but it was still its own story, its own thing. His other movies include Mission: Impossible III and the two Star Trek films, and yes, those had plenty of references or whatever. Yet still, Into Darkness, despite being full of references, did not feel like Wrath of Khan at all. They're almost nothing alike. Completely different tone, settings, style, pacing, the whole nine yards. Even putting Khan in there (who was a completely different character, and Khan in name only) and other references... it was done in its own way. They put the references in to tickle fans. It worked for some and backfired for others.

So yes, Abrams nerds out pretty hard and it doesn't help when you've mostly been directing scripts written by Orci and Kurtzmann. A sequel is a sequel though, this is not a spinoff or a reboot or something that takes place completely separately of what came before and it's especially reasonable given that this is an episodic series. I'm not telling people what they can or can't think, but I find it moot to sit around complaining or worrying about "nostalgia pandering" in a movie that is a sequel to a big thing like Star Wars with an already established fiction, universe and characters.

When it was revealed that some of the original actors were coming back, the nostalgia pandering complaints were flying left and right-- yet it's perfectly reasonable and makes sense.

a916 said:
When the Millennium Falcon is first shown, that song that plays (it's a new take on an OT theme)... what theme is it?
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Han and Leia's theme introduced in Empire Strikes Back. Even the trailer music is nostalgia pandering. :p
 
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