BannedEpisode
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It gets better.
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Star Wars: The Old Republic |OT| EA: "Let's blow this thing and go home!"
- Thread starter Emitan
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It gets better.
if you kit them out you can even use them on missions
Which areas are considered tutorial? So far I've seen the Jedi Temple, and the Flesh Raider area next to it. Anyway, I'm having fun learning the new genre, being a big Star Wars fan makes it easy. The music is great, although not always done at the right moments imo.
You're maybe 1 hour into the 120 hour leveling curve. Of course you don't get anything new. There's only one bit of gear and it's what you spawned with.
Just be wary, there are a lot of "big ass" jedi knight armor 
http://i.imgur.com/kx8MH.jpg
Found that pic on google.
http://i.imgur.com/kx8MH.jpg
Found that pic on google.
Everything up to getting your first companion is considered tutorial bits.
Basically leveling from lv1 to approximately lv10.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
i really hope UI customization is added soon because how things are setup now is annoying. Chat box at the top? i go to click on a guy planting a bomb in Voidstar and end up initiating chat. Bioware also needs to make the targeting better because 90% of the time i cant tell who the fuck is my target. The indicator is so tiny its basically worthless.
Yep the UI is pretty sad. I haven't seen them make mention of it in a while. Oh here's some info on 1.1 and beyond from a gamespot interview, and a eurogamer one.
http://www.gamespot.com/features/flashpoints-and-fixes-the-old-republic-rise-of-the-rakghouls-6348435/?tag=topslot;title;1
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-12-bioware-dates-swtor-patch-1-1-details-future-game-updates
I'm disappointed that the Legacy update seems to be update 2.
Jedi: "I'm not the one you're looking for." *waves hand*
BH: "You are the moron I'm looking for." *waves hand*
BH: "You are the moron I'm looking for." *waves hand*
Priceless.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Voidstar.
1) Lose the Spacebar to Start nonsense.
2) Get rid of the opening movie. Have it be voiceover like the other two. No conversation please.
3) Ditch the speeder bike entry. i do not need to survey the battlefield before the match has started. Even if it has i dont need to see all the parts where nobody is.
1) Lose the Spacebar to Start nonsense.
2) Get rid of the opening movie. Have it be voiceover like the other two. No conversation please.
3) Ditch the speeder bike entry. i do not need to survey the battlefield before the match has started. Even if it has i dont need to see all the parts where nobody is.
DurielBlack
Member
I love it. So many good lines. I need to start memorizing them so I can start talking like one at work.
Boss: "We need you to do X"
Me: "Sounds like a job. What's in it for me?" *gruff voice and hand waving*
The UI has all the basic stuff you need to play, however they really should have give you frames so you can move/scale stuff to where you want it. As it is though it's pretty awful in some situations, like accidentally clicking on chat, or how party/raid frames overlap the left action bar. I keep a bunch of my abilities over there because the quest log is huge and overlaps the right action bar. Also you can't resize/move the companion action bar, ugh.
I did fine with the basic WoW UI, only mod I used put the health bars around my character instead of the top left so I could see it more easily while tanking, as well as some bag management stuff.
The worst is if you start on offense and someone misses a queue, the timing between that person getting 'replaced' and the next person getting in, due to speeder bike bullshit, is basically JUUUST in time for them to get locked behind the doors after the match starts, I've been down 4 bodies because of this before and you basically auto-lose the first room at that point.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
The chatbox should not be up top. The only part of the box that initiates chat is the chat field itself which when on top is near the center 1/3 of the screen where the majority of the game is viewed. If the box were on bottom this wouldnt be an issue at all because misclicking wouldnt initiate chat and lockout your hotbars until you hit enter. Until the UI can be changed it would be nice if Bioware added an option where the mouse cannot start chat.
Just be wary, there are a lot of "big ass" jedi knight armor
http://i.imgur.com/kx8MH.jpg
Found that pic on google.
That's not from armor, its from using the "fat" model, even my male fatty bounty hunters ass sticks out like that, freaking annoying;p
Castor Krieg
Banned
It's obviously from the armor. "Fat" model makes you look like a human cannonball.
I almost got kicked out because of that. Managed to clear the safe zone when I had 5s left on the deserter debuff.
Should post the interviews as well.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/12/rakghouls-and-raging-hutts-with-swtors-gabe-amatangelo/
More on the legacy system.
More Warzones.
LOL are you serious? That's pretty funny, and messed up.
Edit: Most of the datacrons are already a pain in the ass, if I took 30 mins getting to a datacron only to find out my character was too fat I'd be pissed.
The morality system in TOR is flawed mostly because of the way its presented. "Light Side" Options for the Empires classes arent really light side in the fashion Republic Light side options are.
For instance as a Sorceror most Light Side options are still evil and dastardly but instead of being selfish and all about my own motives the light side option is something that benefits the Empire at my own personal gains expense. For instance instead of murdering a Force Mystic I enslave her forever and force her to tell her people to join the Empire which they will do.
Neither of those options are very "light side" yet one of those are listed as such.
For instance as a Sorceror most Light Side options are still evil and dastardly but instead of being selfish and all about my own motives the light side option is something that benefits the Empire at my own personal gains expense. For instance instead of murdering a Force Mystic I enslave her forever and force her to tell her people to join the Empire which they will do.
Neither of those options are very "light side" yet one of those are listed as such.
+10 willpower on alderaan
http://www.swtor.com/fr/community/showthread.php?t=148222
"Galactic History 47 - Castle Panteer Datacron - Planet Alderaan - Opening of the door is not wide enough for someone who has a Frame3 which I have on my Jedi Guardian. So the question is can frame2 or frame1 fit? This needs to be enlarged for Frame4 to fit as well.
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edit: oh shit there is two
The Port one on Correllia cannot be done by a type 3+ body frame using the follow the wall method
lol
They have said a new Same faction one is coming. Curious to see what they do next after Huttball
Maybe add a huge button that covers up 75% of your screen to let your teammates know that passing the huttball is possible and that teamwork is successful!
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
There has only been a couple that ive run across that have been like that. They are definitely the exception as opposed to the rule. i piss off my superiors big time with the shit i pull. Sometimes it works out because i can salvage things via conversation options.. sometimes, such as in the case of Voss and Darth Serevin, there is no reconciliation. That dude was livid at my choice at the end lol
Castor Krieg
Banned
That's not a flaw for me, rather a benefit. Nice to see they didn't use the same good vs. bad for everything.
My money is on some kind of competitive training scenario, more like a slayer match than anything else.
water_wendi
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i would think a new WZ would have to be open to both same faction and opposing otherwise the Republic wouldnt see much of it.
I had a companion droid briefly, but then my master took it from me.
Yeah you're still in the starter bits. The 'prologue' goes all the way until the end of Coruscant, which is the second planet. But the 'tutorial' in the normal sense is basically until you finish Tython. You need to do a bit yet
And you'll get your droid back.Castor Krieg
Banned
You will get it later. It's your first companion.
Colicoid Games was pretty interesting. A nice shake up from the standard Flashpoints.
Also, for the planets(I'm level 42 so haven't seen all of them)
Good tier: Alderaan, Tatooine, Belavis
Mid tier: Nar shadaar, Dromund Kaas, Hutta, Balmoora, Quesh.
Shit tier: Hoth, Taris.
Good nice to get on Belavis after hoth and taris. Sort of refreshing in a way.
Colicoid Games was pretty interesting. A nice shake up from the standard Flashpoints.
Also, for the planets(I'm level 42 so haven't seen all of them)
Good tier: Alderaan, Tatooine, Belavis
Mid tier: Nar shadaar, Dromund Kaas, Hutta, Balmoora, Quesh.
Shit tier: Hoth, Taris.
Good nice to get on Belavis after hoth and taris. Sort of refreshing in a way.
Colicoid Games was pretty interesting. A nice shake up from the standard Flashpoints.
At least the chatbox is movable, though it changes little when the other stuff aren't and there isn't a way to shrunk them.
Manual targeting, instead... Sometimes targeting something specific with the mouse is practically not possible, like when 2 mobs are close to each other, one always takes precedence even if both are pretty visible on the screen, so the only solution is tabbing or move around, which are both time wasting solutions.
i get why they did it, but having the other two much better WZ's especially the alderaan one as same faction really wouldn't be dumb and people would get why..
its not like the warzones affect the freaking overall story anyway (yet......)
Hoth is shit really? what is with Bioware and fucking up iconic stuff in this game?
Jedi Knight? fucked
Hoth? Fucked
cleveridea
Member
Jtrizzy - jedi knight is the hardest starter planet of the classes in my experience, I tried most but not all classes
I think bounty hunter is the easiest.
if you get frustrated park your jedi knight at a catina for rest experience and do some bounty hunter, when you come back days later you can level much faster your JK
as jedi knight, do all the side missions you can and you have to use your abilities to take down tough enemies later in the planet - always train when you level up, and learn each ability especially what uses and what doesnt use focus. upgrade your equipment, get stims for health and eg endurance + 8, make sure they are on the button bar, later story class enemies will take everything you have (if you dont have AC) so you'll need to use the shield power, stims, most powerful attacks etc
it may be easier if you unlock your AC at 10, I didnt have the patience for it.
I think bounty hunter is the easiest.
if you get frustrated park your jedi knight at a catina for rest experience and do some bounty hunter, when you come back days later you can level much faster your JK
as jedi knight, do all the side missions you can and you have to use your abilities to take down tough enemies later in the planet - always train when you level up, and learn each ability especially what uses and what doesnt use focus. upgrade your equipment, get stims for health and eg endurance + 8, make sure they are on the button bar, later story class enemies will take everything you have (if you dont have AC) so you'll need to use the shield power, stims, most powerful attacks etc
it may be easier if you unlock your AC at 10, I didnt have the patience for it.
jedi knight being the toughest opening planet prepares you for how balls out hard it gets around level 30
edit: when i played jedi knight it was the only opening planet ive had where ive had to grind enemies to level to 10 before leaving
can someone add me to guild empire - leilahunter
on now
edit: when i played jedi knight it was the only opening planet ive had where ive had to grind enemies to level to 10 before leaving
can someone add me to guild
empire - leilahunteron now
BattleMonkey
Member
Because the morality system is not really light and dark side, it should have never have been called as such as it's merely a measure of a characters demeanor. A "light" sith is still a bad and evil person, he just is not a muahahah villain who sets fires to orphanages. You don't actually stop being a Sith. There are some converstionas that scratch your head at the choices though, but guess it's the nature of the size of the game and having so many different writers and hands in the cookie jar.
It's basically just like D&D alignments, where you have different levels of good and bad. Lawful evil, neutral evil, chaotic evil, lawful good, neutral good, chaotic good, etc, etc
You don't switch from evil to good, you simply change in your demanor.
The system is not flawed, it's just named poorly. It's obvious they did it because it's Star Wars so they slapped on the whole "light side vs dark side" thing, but it really is not appropriate labeling.
This. I had a great teamwork experience yesterday. Someone passed the ball up to me on the walkway, an Operative stunned the Assassin that was waiting to off me. I hit my resolve so fast that I was only snared for the entire walk and I had a Knight there taking the damage for me. I got killed, but only after scoring the winning point (2-1).
Alex
Member
The further I play in this game, I still love it and it's probably my favorite MMO of the Everquest vein (though I don't intend to go into raiding and long term subs and stuff anymore in these), but I draw on the same requests I have from WoW:
1.) More difficulty paths and risk/reward or at least give me the option to perpetually cheese it as such, like I'm doing now by running dungeons and 4x elite quests with two people, which has been very fun.
Nothing is more satisfying than blowing your whole toolbox, playing brilliantly, and scraping by a ridiculous scenario. That's why PvP, end game raiding and all that jazz are popular, and it should be dripping down, at least optionally, to the standard game
2.) Encouraged, persistent grouping. I'm paying my bucks to play a multiplayer game, solo should be the option, not the norm, I've always hated this trend. SWTOR does it better than some other titles by having good elite quests and having co-op mechanics littered all over certain elements, but I do wish it went further.
More options and scaling need to be applied to things besides just dungeons. Toss in some smart rewards and some other makeshift content and you could keep the game world alive for a lot longer than normal, too.
1.) More difficulty paths and risk/reward or at least give me the option to perpetually cheese it as such, like I'm doing now by running dungeons and 4x elite quests with two people, which has been very fun.
Nothing is more satisfying than blowing your whole toolbox, playing brilliantly, and scraping by a ridiculous scenario. That's why PvP, end game raiding and all that jazz are popular, and it should be dripping down, at least optionally, to the standard game
2.) Encouraged, persistent grouping. I'm paying my bucks to play a multiplayer game, solo should be the option, not the norm, I've always hated this trend. SWTOR does it better than some other titles by having good elite quests and having co-op mechanics littered all over certain elements, but I do wish it went further.
More options and scaling need to be applied to things besides just dungeons. Toss in some smart rewards and some other makeshift content and you could keep the game world alive for a lot longer than normal, too.
Yeah, but it's all down to personal perception. I really enjoyed Taris for example.
For every person that hates a given zone, there'll be someone that enjoys it. Same with the stories.
Eg. Tatooine annoyed me from the voice perspective. It seemed that 95% of the npc's there were generic alien gibberish speakers. Just seemed lazy.
I had that happen except right before shooting him I rifle butted her with my empty hands as well.