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[StudioTan]

Got my founder status, that's definetly getting put on the second I get home! (Extreme sarcasm..)

The founder title doesn't mean much right now because everyone has it, but it'll be a cool thing to have in 4-5 years.

I liked putting up my Elder Master Chef title during times when I resubbed to SWG since that class was taken away with the NGE.

 

[frequency]

I completely agree. I almost wonder if it's a result of their stress tests, or because they simply forced the populations across servers during launch week because they though it best.

I think there are a few things at play.

1) They expected more people
2) Appearances. Launching with too few servers would be saying "we don't expect to be hugely popular"
3) Tech. Their engine is obviously not that great. It chugs a lot if too many people are in one place. This is also probably why every planet is instanced the way it is. The game just cannot handle too many people in one spot at the same time - as we can see with the Ilum videos from patch 1.1.

 

[Tess3ract]

As much as I dislike waiting in queues, I'm not fond of cross-realm stuff either. I like seeing familiar names in PVP, so you can target them.

I don't give a crap about that. I would prefer to NOT fight Fist of the Empire every fucking warzone.

 

[cpp_is_king]

I think there are a few things at play.
3) Tech. Their engine is obviously not that great. It chugs a lot if too many people are in one place. This is also probably why every planet is instanced the way it is. The game just cannot handle too many people in one spot at the same time - as we can see with the Ilum videos from patch 1.1.

^ This. I'm very curious what their maximum supported PCU (Peak Concurrent Users) is for a single shard (i.e. server). I doubt it's more than a few thousand, which is pretty low by today's standards. But it's the only possible explanation for why there are such a massive number of users and low population per server.

If a single server was able to support 5-6k PCU, I think we would be seeing way fewer servers. Luckily, MMOs are ever-evolving pieces of software. As long as they can get it there someday, I'll be happy.

I doubt the ability to migrate / merge servers is even implemented yet. Purely from an implementation standpoint, it's not as simple as most people think.

 

[DurielBlack]

I think there are a few things at play.

1) They expected more people
2) Appearances. Launching with too few servers would be saying "we don't expect to be hugely popular"
3) Tech. Their engine is obviously not that great. It chugs a lot if too many people are in one place. This is also probably why every planet is instanced the way it is. The game just cannot handle too many people in one spot at the same time - as we can see with the Ilum videos from patch 1.1.

Yeah, I can image the shitstorm if/when they do start combining servers.

"OMG GAME IS TERRIBLEWTF CLOSING SERVERS GOING TOUNSUB!!!!!!!!OPERATIVEUNPLAYABLE@@!!!!"

 

[cpp_is_king]

Was anyone able to get the trigger for surveying the entire map of Quesh? I uncovered every light-colored hex on the map and it wouldn't trigger.

Yeah, I can image the shitstorm if/when they do start combining servers.

"OMG GAME IS TERRIBLEWTF CLOSING SERVERS GOING TOUNSUB!!!!!!!!OPERATIVEUNPLAYABLE@@!!!!"

It's kind of a catch 22. If you don't overbuild your data center, you won't be able to handle day 1 usage spike and then people will go apeshit that your game performs like shit and has major problems.

If you build too much, the servers get sparse quickly after the initial rush of people playing and deciding it's not for them, and then your only choice is either to spend a ton of money on servers you don't need, or risk looking like you're a failure, when actually it's completely normal.

 

[Valnen]

So they have some input lag fixes on the PTR. And there's a patch tonight. Does this mean the input lag fixes are going live tonight?

 

[Tess3ract]

Founder title sucks anyways, it should be "X the Founder" or "Founder X" but no, it's "X, Founder"

 

[Mairu]

3) Tech. Their engine is obviously not that great. It chugs a lot if too many people are in one place. This is also probably why every planet is instanced the way it is. The game just cannot handle too many people in one spot at the same time - as we can see with the Ilum videos from patch 1.1.

This is too true. The engine is really absolute shit. It doesn't seem to be able to handle an actual "massive" amount of people. Going to Ilum even now when there's more than 20+ people together the game performs pretty awfully. It's one of the reasons why I don't even want to bother trying 16 man raids.

 

[cpp_is_king]

The sheer number of un-abandonable quests that are part of massive quest chains that take hours to complete, are about to drive me up a fucking wall.

 

[chickdigger802]

So they have some input lag fixes on the PTR. And there's a patch tonight. Does this mean the input lag fixes are going live tonight?

Probably.


Was reading up the webcomics right now. Pretty great stuff. Any of the other old republic media any good? How are the novels?

 

[CAW]

In heroic pugs, if an orange or blue item drops that everyone greeds on but you can use it for your comp, do you ask if you can need it, or do you just automatically greed it? An orange pistol dropped in a group of three and the two other players greeded and I asked if i could "need for my comp" but they kind of made a big deal about it and said for comps it should always be greed. So whatever, I greeded and won the pistol. Is that some hidden rule of heroic pugs for BoE items? Greed for comps?

Just asking because I levelled an OP to 35 solo and now I'm leveling a Sniper and trying to do all the heroics and FPs I missed with the OP and was wondering if that was some kind of hidden rule or something.

 

[Tess3ract]

You pause rolling and specifically ask to need it. Usually there isn't a problem, and if someone goes "b-b-but I need to vendor/gtn it!!" tell them that it's an upgrade and worth more.

I don't know about pugs, because I refuse to roll with anyone but my guild because we're not enormous douchebags, but with my guild it's always a nonchalant "I don't care, no big deal, go for it"

 

[JWong]

Totally went to the wrong world boss on Hoth. Just saw it before maintenence down. >_>

 

[squidyj]

hah, turned in my last daily 2 seconds before server shut down.

 

[frequency]

Doaster is a Toaster.

 

[Milly79]

An hour before the servers went down, Empire-GAF traveled to the shit planet of Belsavis to down the world boss.

Before:

After:

We then decided to book it over to Hoth to down the world boss, but instead we did the mini-boss, which I thought was the world boss.

Before:

After:

Good stuff tonight, fellas. And sorry for the crappy screenies, that's just what I have to deal with being on a Mac. Thankful enough to even be able to play.

 

[TheDancingWatermelon]

Founder title sucks anyways, it should be "X the Founder" or "Founder X" but no, it's "X, Founder"

I honestly laughed when I logged in and saw it, I was expecting "Glub The Founder" and instead got what we got.

 

[cpp_is_king]

In heroic pugs, if an orange or blue item drops that everyone greeds on but you can use it for your comp, do you ask if you can need it, or do you just automatically greed it? An orange pistol dropped in a group of three and the two other players greeded and I asked if i could "need for my comp" but they kind of made a big deal about it and said for comps it should always be greed. So whatever, I greeded and won the pistol. Is that some hidden rule of heroic pugs for BoE items? Greed for comps?

Just asking because I levelled an OP to 35 solo and now I'm leveling a Sniper and trying to do all the heroics and FPs I missed with the OP and was wondering if that was some kind of hidden rule or something.

I usually just ask if i can need for companion, if they say to greed for companion, then I greed and don't make a big deal about it.

 

[Choc]

is there a world boss on ilum and has anyone killed it?

 

[Spiritreaver]

Finished off the night with a nice PVP match as my sniper, totally in love with this class. Hiding around the Huttball arena, picking people off, is just so satisfying. Definitely will be my second 50.

 

[BannedEpisode]

In heroic pugs, if an orange or blue item drops that everyone greeds on but you can use it for your comp, do you ask if you can need it, or do you just automatically greed it? An orange pistol dropped in a group of three and the two other players greeded and I asked if i could "need for my comp" but they kind of made a big deal about it and said for comps it should always be greed. So whatever, I greeded and won the pistol. Is that some hidden rule of heroic pugs for BoE items? Greed for comps?

Just asking because I levelled an OP to 35 solo and now I'm leveling a Sniper and trying to do all the heroics and FPs I missed with the OP and was wondering if that was some kind of hidden rule or something.

If its an upgrade for your character its obviously fair game. When its an upgrade for your companion it enters that weird grey area. I personally wouldnt Need on anything I planned to give to a companion but others have different opinions. If nobody actually needs it, like in your situation, its pretty reasonable.

Folks are just touchy about it because there seems to be a lot of people who roll for their companions even when an item is an upgrade for another player. Now that baffles me.

 

[Tess3ract]

is there a world boss on ilum and has anyone killed it?

No.

There's the boss you kill for the magenta but that's a 4 man.

Also that boss cat thing IS a world boss.

 

[hamchan]

In heroic pugs, if an orange or blue item drops that everyone greeds on but you can use it for your comp, do you ask if you can need it, or do you just automatically greed it? An orange pistol dropped in a group of three and the two other players greeded and I asked if i could "need for my comp" but they kind of made a big deal about it and said for comps it should always be greed. So whatever, I greeded and won the pistol. Is that some hidden rule of heroic pugs for BoE items? Greed for comps?

Just asking because I levelled an OP to 35 solo and now I'm leveling a Sniper and trying to do all the heroics and FPs I missed with the OP and was wondering if that was some kind of hidden rule or something.

To me, it seems like every class gets varied enough companions that all weapon types can be covered by them, so the "greed for companions" rule seems pretty solid to me, otherwise everyone could probably be needing for companions.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

who is doing a naked dance party on the only server that's up?

 

[Milly79]

Also that boss cat thing IS a world boss.

I know it is a world boss, it even says it. Others were saying the actual one was in a cavern or some shit on Hoth.

 

[Tess3ract]

No, there's two world bosses on hoth. One is an ape thing, and the other is a cat. The cat one is WAYYYYY more interesting to fight though.

 

[Choc]

lol

the PTR

could just be a dance floor

 

[gatti-man]

Finished off the night with a nice PVP match as my sniper, totally in love with this class. Hiding around the Huttball arena, picking people off, is just so satisfying. Definitely will be my second 50.

Thats totally my pet peeve. I choose to kill snipers 2nd only to healers.

 

[CAW]

To me, it seems like every class gets varied enough companions that all weapon types can be covered by them, so the "greed for companions" rule seems pretty solid to me, otherwise everyone could probably be needing for companions.

Yeah true, good point. I actually wasn't even thinking about that, now I feel kind of silly. From now on I'll just greed automatically unless I'm with friends or something.

 

[Tess3ract]

Right but anecdotally all my companions are in lvl 50 oranges/pvp t2 sets/pve t1 sets so anything that dropped would be a downgrade so

 

[Teknoman]

Does NA Republic GAF need more of a certain class type, or should I just go with what I want? After giving it some thought, I really want to get into ToR, but im still stuck on deciding whether I want to end up as a gunslinger, jedi guardian, or jedi sage.

 

[Tess3ract]

I can't speak for the gaf guild but just roll what you want, it looks big enough I'm sure someone can fill a role for something.

For our guild, it was "too many healers! Someone reroll tanks!" then two weeks later it was "why the fuck do we have so many tanks! roll heals!" and since of course bioware is fucking retarded about ACs, you can't switch between them...

 

[JWong]

No.

There's the boss you kill for the magenta but that's a 4 man.

Also that boss cat thing IS a world boss.

The cat thing is a mini boss with mini loot!

We want magenta crystals! This is the boss for it.

And for those who say you run out of keybindings for warriors must be joking.

 

[Tess3ract]

it's a level 44 world Boss, and gargath has nothing to do with the magenta crystal, at least on the republic side.

 

[Adent]

Some more pics.

 

[Mairu]

it's a level 44 world Boss, and gargath has nothing to do with the magenta crystal, at least on the republic side.

He can drop the schematics for the magenta crystals

 

[Tess3ract]

Had no idea, no one bothered with him other than the belsavis one for the schematics. Probably because it's kind of harder to get to him on the republic side, and you're gonna be in the Tomb anyways for your dailies.

 

[Spiritreaver]

Thats totally my pet peeve. I choose to kill snipers 2nd only to healers.

Definitely for the best, I've gone through several matches where I would pretty much get left alone and I almost felt bad. People go down so quickly and have no clue I'm even hitting them half the time. So I don't mind so much when I get sought out.

 

[Mairu]

Had no idea, no one bothered with him other than the belsavis one for the schematics. Probably because it's kind of harder to get to him on the republic side, and you're gonna be in the Tomb anyways for your dailies.

The Belsavis world boss often bugged out (at least before 1.1, no idea if they fixed it) and just randomly decided to stop spawning occasionally. If it wasn't for the Hoth boss being available as well for the magenta schematics I'd be missing one of the three schematics!

Not that it matters much anymore I guess, considering HM Karagga is way too easy -_-

http://www.swtor.com/patchnotes

patch notes!

General

Implemented optimizations to improve performance on Republic and Imperial Fleets.


Classes and Combat

Significantly improved the delay when activating player abilities, particularly when in lower framerate situations. This allows for improved ability responsiveness in hectic combat situations.


Operations


General
Operations will no longer allow more than 16 Operations Group members to enter concurrently.

Karagga's Palace
Operations Groups will no longer be forced to reset the Operation if the group wipes when attempting to defeat G4-B3 Heavy Fabricator.
Fixed an exploit that would allow players to repeatedly loot the chest after defeating Jarg and Sorno.


Miscellaneous Bug Fixes
Fixed an issue that could cause graphical inconsistencies, which most often manifested as random screen "flickering."

 

[jersoc]

still no bug fix for pvp wins not counting? stay awesome, bioware.

republics on my server are awful. so when i get that 1 in 20 million be nice to have it count.

 

[TheDancingWatermelon]

The Belsavis world boss often bugged out (at least before 1.1, no idea if they fixed it) and just randomly decided to stop spawning occasionally. If it wasn't for the Hoth boss being available as well for the magenta schematics I'd be missing one of the three schematics!

Not that it matters much anymore I guess, considering HM Karagga is way too easy -_-

http://www.swtor.com/patchnotes

patch notes!

Hmm was expecting 1.1.1, but at least these are necessary and welcome fixes. Even some major ones in it.

still no bug fix for pvp wins not counting? stay awesome, bioware.

republics on my server are awful. so when i get that 1 in 20 million be nice to have it count.

thats in 1.1.1, so yeah guess another week.

 

[Mairu]

still no bug fix for pvp wins not counting? stay awesome, bioware.

republics on my server are awful. so when i get that 1 in 20 million be nice to have it count.

Looks like that unfortunately is in 1.1.1 and we're getting 1.1.0b today

Guess that's good for the people who can't stop crying about operatives though!

 

[Sent]

Fixed an issue that could cause graphical inconsistencies, which most often manifested as random screen "flickering."

Yay now Tython is no longer a seizure fest

 

[Valnen]

Hmm. So not all the input lag fixes are in, just one that's not even showcased in the PTR notes. Interesting.

 

[jersoc]

Looks like that unfortunately is in 1.1.1 and we're getting 1.1.0b today

Guess that's good for the people who can't stop crying about operatives though!

oh, i didn't even know they actually fixed that. wtf how was this not pushed out today then?


whatever, i might just give up anyways, shit aint fun losing over and over and then getting a fucking token in your bag. reward system needs a mad overhaul imo.

empire gaf server seems pretty good so far. matches have been fairly good, but i'm not 50 there so who knows.

 

[TheDancingWatermelon]

Yay now Tython is no longer a seizure fest

Ilum is absolutely horrible with that flickering, which just compliments the amazing quest to find elusive Republic players or chests for the daily!

 

[Kiarushka]

I feel really stupid for posting this but

I keep on seeing everyone dancing and slapping each other. How do I do that?

And no I don't really play MMOs

 

[Choc]

/clubdance

/slap name

in chat

 

[DurielBlack]

I feel really stupid for posting this but

I keep on seeing everyone dancing and slapping each other. How do I do that?

And no I don't really play MMOs

Use chat commands.

/dance
/getdown
/clubdance
/slap

Theres a button you can click in the chat area somewhere that lists all the emotes.