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//: StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm |OT| Like Riding a Bike

SamuraiX-

Member
Nope, streaming live games (with a 2 minute delay).

Nice!

Rotterdam has also been up for ages, this is like hour 10 in a continuous stream from playing games and casting.

Yeah, crazy! I just heard about that.

Up for 24 hours, streaming for nearly 12 hours straight!

Props to him. Hopefully TL gets their asses stomped as per usual so he can get some sleep.


Edit: WHAT??? Blizzard replaced worker skins with the Warhound? ahahahahahaha

Best April Fool's Day troll I've seen so far today.
 
I've been playing SC since 2000 (not non stop mind you) and I'm loving the HotS because I've actually never played as Zerg lol. First mission, I had no idea what to do, what to build etc.

I don't even know what new units are available for all factions, so will the campaign introduce them all eventually? Not just Zerg but T and P as well.
 

Wunder

Member
I've been playing SC since 2000 (not non stop mind you) and I'm loving the HotS because I've actually never played as Zerg lol. First mission, I had no idea what to do, what to build etc.

I don't even know what new units are available for all factions, so will the campaign introduce them all eventually? Not just Zerg but T and P as well.

Not for Terran or Protoss, for Zerg they will introduce a lot of the basic units to you and allow you to play with them for the missions and slowly upgrade them to your preference - but the tech trees and units that you use aren't transferable to multiplayer. Some are, but most aren't.
 
Not for Terran or Protoss, for Zerg they will introduce a lot of the basic units to you and allow you to play with them for the missions and slowly upgrade them to your preference - but the tech trees and units that you use aren't transferable to multiplayer. Some are, but most aren't.

Yeah I meant strictly the new units for HotS (for Multiplayer). I mean I could easily play a custom game and see what all the new units are but I'd prefer if the campaign would shine a light on them individually.
 

Wunder

Member
Yeah I meant strictly the new units for HotS (for Multiplayer). I mean I could easily play a custom game and see what all the new units are but I'd prefer if the campaign would shine a light on them individually.

You might consider going through the Training modes in the Multiplayer section - I think those will give you a better overview of each race. I personally haven't done them so I can't speak to what they actually show, but I know they walk you through some objective-based stuff and teach you basic buildings/units for each race.
 

SamuraiX-

Member
They started the TaeJa vs Masa game without Rotterdam...

"I guess mine is the only stream they don't care about, despite my staying up all night to cast."

I feel so bad for the guy right now. lol
 

Wunder

Member
poor rotti ;; Really feel like he's one of the better casters, both in terms of skill and personality wise. He seems down to earth and really just wants to play/improve himself.
 

JLeack

Banned
How do you counter Broodlords as Protoss? I was winning a game with upgraded Zealots, Stalkers, and Colossi then Broodlords came in and ruined my day.
 
T

thepotatoman

Unconfirmed Member
How do you counter Broodlords as Protoss? I was winning a game with upgraded Zealots, Stalkers, and Colossi then Broodlords came in and ruined my day.

Well I may not be great at this game, but I do know according to State of the Game, Void Rays with a little bit of splash damage thrown in pretty much counter every zerg unit late game, and cost effectively even beat corrupters. So badly in fact that a balance change is pretty much certain to be coming for that.
 

SamuraiX-

Member
Why am I only playing TvZ =/ Literally almost all my games are TvZ and I'm quite good at the matchup. Crushing face.

Can you post some replays of some of your one-sided victories? I'd love to see them.

It's currently my worst match up.

I'm constantly losing to early Zergling and/or Baneling busts, even if I scout them.
 
Can you post some replays of some of your one-sided victories? I'd love to see them.

It's currently my worst match up.

I'm constantly losing to early Zergling and/or Baneling busts, even if I scout them.

Ok, ill try post a good one as soon as I play it. I have so many replays that I don't want to shuffle through them to find a good one cause it'll take too long. The idea is just to be extremely aggressive. I play TvZ very similar to the way I play TvP. I constantly drop. Never stop dropping. When I push at a base, I make sure I'm dropping in a completely different location. In plat league, this tears zergs completely apart. They simply can't deal with it. Even if my macro does slip sometimes, its far more devastating for them as when I watched replays I can see total chaos occur in their organization.
 
Here is a TvZ from me. I didn't play that great at all in this match, but its more or less how I play the matchup. What you guys think I can improve on? Dat missle turret placement on my 3rd. Damn, never doing that again. I really want to get into diamond!

http://drop.sc/316828
 

xmShake

Neo Member
Can you post some replays of some of your one-sided victories? I'd love to see them.

It's currently my worst match up.

I'm constantly losing to early Zergling and/or Baneling busts, even if I scout them.
No guarantees as to the quality of the games but you can probably learn a decent bit from this.
I'm 81% TvZ and Masters

5 reps
http://www.mediafire.com/?22udmo23y46d31d


For your bane bust troubles, it's simply a matter of scouting and then reacting properly. A good way to identify that a bane bust is coming is scouting gas before or shortly after pool, and no third base. In my mind those are huge red flags that either bane bust or roaches are coming. More rarely, it means 2 base muta.

To hold it off, you pretty much need to have a wall and 3-4 bunkers. He's always going to blow your initial wall up, so you need to have the extra bunkers behind it so you marines have something to get into once your wall is down or else you'll get killed by the zerglings. If you're getting your factory up in time, the bane bust should arrive shortly after your first two hellions or widow mines pop out, so micro those to the best of your ability. If you go mines first, try to put them in front of your wall but not in front of where the banes will likely hit so they dont get killed by bane splash.

If you are certain that you wont be able to hold your natural. It's better to lift your nat and retreat all your stuff into your main and make some bunkers behind your wall there instead. It's a lot harder for him to kill that, and you can easily make up for the lost depots at your natural wall with quick banshee or drops since his tech will be late.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Here is a TvZ from me. I didn't play that great at all in this match, but its more or less how I play the matchup. What you guys think I can improve on? Dat missle turret placement on my 3rd. Damn, never doing that again. I really want to get into diamond!

http://drop.sc/316828

Your macro slipped pretty badly when you were focusing on drops and engaging, at one point floating more than 3k resources.
 
Your macro slipped pretty badly when you were focusing on drops and engaging, at one point floating more than 3k resources.

yeah :(
Its very difficult to keep up with the macro and still trade effectively in battles as terran. I have over 200 APM now in most games and still can't do it :(
 

sixghost

Member
yeah :(
Its very difficult to keep up with the macro and still trade effectively in battles as terran. I have over 200 APM now in most games and still can't do it :(

Just queue up units in your barracks then. It can be a bad habit to pick up, but it's better than having idle production.
 
bah... just finished the campaign. great gameplay but lol @ the story. it's official, metzen is only capable of writing one plot. ZOMG a greater evil that is going to destroy the universe? That can only mean everyone will set aside their differences and kill the evildoer in the third episode! Sounds like a WoW expansion.

It's kinda crazy that he's managed to take all of the SC lore and distill it down to yet another boring 'save the universe' plot.

I think this "save the universe" plot was already clear by the end of Brood War (specially after the Dark Origin secret mission) and before even WoW existed.

I don't get on why complain about this just now.
 
Just want to pop in here to say I fucking love this game, and am getting addicted again, formulated strategies when I'm trying to fall asleep in bed. It's the first PC game I buy since... Starcraft 2. I'm still pretty shitty, but enjoy 2vs2ai games etc.
 
Did those four widow mines destroy all of those mutas in one round of shots? How is that not OP? Seems a bit imbalanced IMHO....

Nope do the math bro. Muta has 120 HP. WM do 125 (+35 vs toss shields) with 40 splash. 40*4= 160.

40 overkill but the 1st or 2nd WM probably didn't hit the whole ball and the ground forces cleaned up the rest.
 
Did those four widow mines destroy all of those mutas in one round of shots? How is that not OP? Seems a bit imbalanced IMHO....

if you sit clumped up with any army it'll die the same way. It's just air units can stack that's why they can all die within a couple of volleys like that.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
That video was like porn.
 

Ketch

Member
I don't like my drones showing up as war hounds... Totally threw me off for the whole game... Had to keep double checking to make sure they were actually building things.

I will try to make it on around 8pm Easter tomorrow night. Life is kicking me in the ball sack right now. Not much time for SC2 :(. But hopefully we will get some games in :)

Yea tell me about it. First week back from break and I just found out that I've got not one, but two exams this week. Study and more study, but I'm gonna do what I have to to not drop down in the ladder.
 
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