The Teachinator
Banned
They are very very funny.
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They are very very funny.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Wait, I haven't been able to log on today and see for myself... Are all workers literally warhounds right now? Please take screenshots/record! I really want to see this!
EscapingJail
Member
That sucks for you man cause they are gonna be that way forever. Better get used to them sooner than later.
Go turn on any stream right now.
The Teachinator
Banned
The one where they guy was supply capped for like 8 minutes. So funny. He could've easily won too after putting the terran player on the run.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I can't... I'm on my frikkin' phone!!!
I'll post my vs AI match when I get home. Just don't laugh at my pathetic attempts to scout.
edit: I'm actually not gonna do this. too embarrassing.
Been a lot of fun so far, the planetary fortress rush video was a classic.
Many, many thanks! Will check out those replays when I get the chance.
I absolutely loved Episode 6 with the PF rush and the Chargelots. LOL
Haven't watched Ep5 yet and I think Ep7 just came out. I'll probably try to follow them from now on.
blainethemono
Member
yeah. i read about it before i saw it, then i saw all the grumbling old bastards demanding for a way to switch it back.
after about half a game, i too became one of those grumbling old bastards. i haven't got time for this shit, i've got a diamond ghetto to climb out of.
in other news, big announcement is gonna be tomorrow:
(from slasher's twatter)
"League owners, Starcraft personalities, media on flights to Korea just in time for Blizzard's announcement. Will come tomorrow at 10 PM EST."
Blizz all stars f2p coming fall 2013
Thanks to ShaneB for helping me practice scouting. I think I'm getting the hang of it, and he pulled off a pretty decent void ray rush too. How about next time we'll switch up and you can practice macro and I'll practice harassing?
Here's my learning point for other scrub leaguers trying to learn how to scout: Include it in your build order. Like for me (shout out to fork) my 12 food drone is my first scout, like I know I go drone, drone, overlord, drone, drone, SCOUT! and then pool, hatch, queens, drones, time for gas extractors, OVERLORD SCOUT!
And then, don't send him back, or look away, or do anything else until you SEE SOMETHING! It's worth missing an inject, or delaying your hatch, or delaying workers in gas. In my game with shane, if I had built a roach warren instead of hydra den I would have been dead. I think now I just need to be able to do it faster so I'm not screwing up my macro too bad.
back to studying =(
it's going to be a mobalike, but with 200 supply. one army controlled by every progamer in korea, the other by incontrol.
demosthenes
Member
Lord Phol
Member
I really can't stand that guys voice and his commenting. Watched the first one though, without audio it was pretty funny.
Okey that was good xD.
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
yeah i LOVE these.
AppleSmack
Banned
Holy shit. This is ingenious.
Yeah I gotta say, at some parts he tried too hard in that planetary fortress video. Especially some of the whining that was happening in a voice that sounded like a 10 year olds.
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
maaaaaaaan, the commentary makes it way better. give at least one a full listen.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Why post this on 1 April? Can't tell if real..... brain hurts...
The last mission was driving me crazy in WoL. Was playing on hard and I refused to change the difficulty, but I finally persevered and finished it a few minutes ago thank god before losing my sanity. Now I'll move onto HotS tomorrow and join the crowd and see how bad the story is.
I can't even get past like the 3rd mission on hard in WoL
Just logged in to check the ladder, wanted to see if I had to win a match before bed to stay in the top 25, but turns out I went up a spot! I don't even know how that happens, but keep em coming... I'll never have to play again!
Crimsonlink
Member
So I have a 25% win rate vs Toss. >.<
TvP help someone? Its mostly the early game that I lose to Toss.
If you need TvZ help I have a 77% winrate so feel free to ask me. TvT is about 60%. Gold league btw.
Overall I have a 58% win ratio lol.
TvP help someone? Its mostly the early game that I lose to Toss.
If you need TvZ help I have a 77% winrate so feel free to ask me. TvT is about 60%. Gold league btw.
Overall I have a 58% win ratio lol.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Three rax with add ons into a 8-9 minute stim timing push plus expand behind it has me killing it in TvP gold level. It's a blind counter to all of the one base all ins that protoss loves to do, and if they go for an early expand, it's usually easy enough with the timing push to do the damage needed to give you time to get back the tech/economy advantage that you lost. A lot of times they have so little stuff you can just win straight out then and there.
Only problem is if they fast expand and defend so well you don't do damage, you'll be far behind in both tech and economy, but the only time that happened to me so far is when they go crazy on the cannons, and that itself is a form of damage in wasted resources.
If you want it to be sustainable into platinum and beyond, you might want to just learn a fast expand build and do a lot of 2 medivac drops, but my way is great in gold.
Whats your opening against Toss?
Crimsonlink
Member
1 Rax FE with either Factory or another rax with techlab depending on what I scout.
If there is no expo or the 2nd/3rd pylon is missing from the main base with 2 gas I build a bunker and tech on one base with extra 2 rax and if I have spare money I build my expo inside the main.
Mostly stick with bio and from what I've tried with Siege Tanks, they still aren't good.
WM aggression is come and go where once in a while its good while other times its horrible.
I try to hit a +1 stim timing with speedvacs but with Planetary Nexus it isn't as effective.
I can deal with Oracles for the most part now.
BTW if a Toss goes double upgrade and an early expand, how do I punish it?
I'm afraid of attacking only to find out his defense is too much and I lose too much of my army. This isn't a problem lategame for me since I always get around 8 ghosts to deal with Toss lategame. Also a ton of Hellbats near my mining bases against Zealot runbys.
So I went Random through my placements. Against all odds, I stumbled my way to 5-0 and placed in Platinum.
But I still feel like I have no idea what I'm doing. In every match I've made serious mistakes, and somehow still managed to wring out a victory. The game feels very forgiving in that regard.
I guess that might change as they put me up against more diamond players. I only faced 1 in my placements.
But I still feel like I have no idea what I'm doing. In every match I've made serious mistakes, and somehow still managed to wring out a victory. The game feels very forgiving in that regard.
I guess that might change as they put me up against more diamond players. I only faced 1 in my placements.
Huh.
On look at you, motherfucker I have a 20% winrate TvP!
Diamond, plz help
If you're getting high minerals don't queue, just build a ton more barracks than you can support
EDIT: Thought I'd try some Z in unranked for a bit of fun, beat my first opponent who was a platinum zerg. God damn zvz is TENSE!
This is what I'm finding as well
When I into watching fighting game streams, they pretty much small events going on throughout the week and usually a tourney going on during the weekend. Is that not the case here? I mean sure there are people who stream when they play online, but that's not the same. There were plenty of times when I wanted to quit out of frustration, so I'm glad to hear HotS is easier, I want to have fun here, not be frustrated. lol
I want to try it just to see how my laptop handles it
, think I'm just tired of the WW2 aesthetic in general though, it's why I couldn't get into CoH as much, just everything felt so bleak and dreary. I know it's blasphemy, but I may try this out. lol
i really need to try out NA sometime.
rakkadakka
Member
So I've been trying to use FilterSC's roach build and keep losing badly. Went from winning a couple games in Bronze to losing 6 games in a row. 3 of those were to protoss zealot/stalker/sentry (?) rush. My timing with drones seems to be on but it feels like every time I am just about to start pumping out roaches the enemy comes to my front door.
Man this game can be frustrating, but I want to keep playing it so.. there's that.
Man this game can be frustrating, but I want to keep playing it so.. there's that.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
The Lamonster
Member
I'm wondering how Blizz implemented the worker Warhounds yesterday. Was it across the board or specific to the games played i.e. if I watch a replay today will they still be Warhounds?
I don't think the replays are a recording but more like a re-enactment. I bet the workers are regular workers again..... But I don't know, whatever list of data points the game is reading off to replay the game might have the war hound skin in there... I'm just making all this based on assumption anyway, who knows?
A good question would be, if you watched a replay Forman earlier date yesterday, were those workers war hounds?
A good question would be, if you watched a replay Forman earlier date yesterday, were those workers war hounds?
AppleSmack
Banned
Try posting a replay. There are many good zerg players here that can help you out. I'm not a zerg player but it sounds like you are dying to a 6 gate or aggressive 4 gate after expand due to over-droning and lack of scouting.
The Lamonster
Member
Good question, but I didn't watch a replay yesterday.
I ask because I actually preferred the Warhounds. It was refreshing having a different set of response sounds instead of the SCV READY we all hear dozens of time each game. They should give us the option to use them instead of SCVs.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I tried this same build with similar results as yours, lots of losses. Filter's build follows the assumption that all Bronze players are slow to start and easy to roll over with a large army, which in my experience is simply not the case. Bronze league is filled with huge amounts of cheese and rushes, and Filter's 10 minute roach army is simply too slow out of the gate to deal with that. I've had much more success getting gas earlier around the 4:30 min mark, grabbing zerg speed, creating a small group of zerglings (say a dozen or so) and using them to harass and gain map control. Of course this slows down your drone production so that hitting Filter's benchmarks is impossible (55 drones at the 8 min mark) but you gain surviving the initial cannon rush / zealot push / 6 pool / bio push / reaper rush/ etc, etc, etc.
Fliter's build works great against the AI up to hard, but even against a harder or very hard AI it will tend to lose. I know, I've tried it several times, It's just too slow out of the gate IMHO.
Slurpy2k20
Member
Runs great on my 2012 MBA, but that has the intel 4000 card, a significant improvement over the 3000 in the previous model. I'd say you can run it, but should turn down all settings for a decent framerate. It spins up the fans to the max, but thats to be expected.
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
Thanks Zer0x for our games on Fighting Spirit. I will say I found something hilarious in the replay though.
What is that stalker doing in there?
being a lossless bosstoss with a winrate the size of rick ross and sucking on moss.
This is exactly where I'm stuck. And I agree one problem with the build is dealing with early aggression. The other problem is if the enemy just has a better unit comp then you. You can totally out number a Terran but if he's got siege tanks your kinda boned. Same with Protoss and immortals.
I tried some early gas builds but could never pull off the macro quite as we'll. so for me the solution is better scouting. If you know early aggression/cheese is coming you can be ready. Just stop building drones and build lings instead for a bit. With 4 queens, 2 spines and a dozen lings you can defend a lot. Or if he's macroing hard and building a better unit mix build half roach and half whatever the counter unit is, deny his 3rd and keep expanding. Or if he's going air skip the roaches and get hydras instead.
I think the filterSC build is a really good way to learn, you just have to learn how to survive and not take it too hard when you loose. At first you should be able to say "my macro was better then his but i lost because he countered roaches", then you can build up to "my macro was better, but i lost because i didnt scout him".
I want to learn a fast gas build, but I feel like mastering this approach first will be better in the long run.
Thanks man, I'm gonna be away from home this weekend and was hoping to get some games in anyway... hopefully it holds up.
I might do this too, I never notice the physics anyway... seemed like a really weird feature to add when I heard about it the first time.