Ingeniero
Member
Idra is sacked from EG
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411840
gg
EDIT. Damn beaten
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411840
gg
EDIT. Damn beaten
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celestial body
Member
Incontrol breaking down, he only just learnt about it.
Perhaps I live in a fantasy world, but it's just a job. Not like anyone was hurt or killed.
lawlohwhat
Banned
I was wondering if this would happen ever since he started leaving ladder games against demuslim. Damn.
StopMakingSense
Member
Yeah, I thought his leaving was nigh. Esp. After that TL post.
I figured it would have been after he dropped out of challenger league, though.
I figured it would have been after he dropped out of challenger league, though.
where is this?
http://www.twitch.tv/itmejp
They've moved on now it was only for like a couple of minutes
Not really a fan of Genna Bain, she's very full of herself.
Are all of JPs subscribers mods? Watching the chat circle jerk is ridiculous
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
jp has vods for subscribers only...meh guess Ill have to wait to see reaction.
His only source of money is from twitch/youtube now. Got to keep those subs
AppleSmack
Banned
This part
Makes it sound like his comment on TL yesterday is the direct reason for this
He posted that in his own fanclub thread
Probably was. Heck that entire comment not only means he has no respect for his fans and anyone that plays this game, but also thinks EG is a cash cow to be milked. I mean sure, we all go to work every day for money but I bet if you went to work and told your boss/co-workers and customers that they are all fucks you just use so you can make you a living you are not going to have a job.
PhoenixDark
Banned
LOL Idra
Has InControl said anything?
Has InControl said anything?
AppleSmack
Banned
Incontrol apparently had to get off state of the game to weep.
He was on state of the game when he found out. He looked very sad then he said how valuable he is to other teams and shit
PhoenixDark
Banned
I can't believe Machine lasted longer on EG than Idra lol. It's a crying shame Panda isn't here to discuss this with us
I'd imagine Idra is done with SC2. He'll probably stream for money but that's about it. He clearly doesn't like the game and isn't interested in getting better. I still don't understand why he's all butthurt at DeMuslim either.
I'd imagine Idra is done with SC2. He'll probably stream for money but that's about it. He clearly doesn't like the game and isn't interested in getting better. I still don't understand why he's all butthurt at DeMuslim either.
PhoenixDark
Banned
I stopped being an Idra fan at that MLG a couple years ago when he completely gave up against MC. That was such a craven, childish move that I couldn't support him anymore; before that I watched his VODs all the time, cheered for him, etc.
2012 was basically dominated by Zergs with heavy Infestor play, yet Idra has spent the entire time failing and blaming it all on cheese or race imbalance. As I said a few days ago, it's clear he feels entitled to success due to the hard work he put in during BW, and and players who didn't bust their ass in Korea back then earn no respect in his eyes. I remember when he used to dismiss Stephano as a cheesy player who just so happened to find a cool build, and "any day now" Koreans would figure him out. That was early 2011 iirc lmao. He didn't adapt to the new styles Stephano ushered in while other players (Nestea and Leenock come to mind) fiddled around with it to success.
He's done. He's probably too proud to accept the low amount of money another team would offer him.
2012 was basically dominated by Zergs with heavy Infestor play, yet Idra has spent the entire time failing and blaming it all on cheese or race imbalance. As I said a few days ago, it's clear he feels entitled to success due to the hard work he put in during BW, and and players who didn't bust their ass in Korea back then earn no respect in his eyes. I remember when he used to dismiss Stephano as a cheesy player who just so happened to find a cool build, and "any day now" Koreans would figure him out. That was early 2011 iirc lmao. He didn't adapt to the new styles Stephano ushered in while other players (Nestea and Leenock come to mind) fiddled around with it to success.
He's done. He's probably too proud to accept the low amount of money another team would offer him.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Jason to become a fan of idra now, the hipster thing to do.
I think this sums up why he has a problem with Demuslim as he is now better than Idra while not being in Korea which I can see Idra previously using as self justification for getting no results.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
So it's all artosis's fault for getting Idra to play zerg...
Yea, I don't know... whatever. It's just definitely not Idra's fault. Clearly. I mean he hasn't lost a legit game in years.
UGH I am SO bad at this game. Loosing to silvers and unranked.... =(
What I choose to do with my army is always wrong. I always try to go after his base when I should be going after his army.
I can't believe Machine lasted longer on EG than Idra lol. It's a crying shame Panda isn't here to discuss this with us
I'd imagine Idra is done with SC2. He'll probably stream for money but that's about it. He clearly doesn't like the game and isn't interested in getting better. I still don't understand why he's all butthurt at DeMuslim either.
The truth hurts.
Will for sure be checking out all the SCII EG streams in the near future to see anyone commenting.
Also, idra being allowed to be Idra was one of the things that really rubbed me the wrong way about EG, this move has actually helped my perception of their organization.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
EscapingJail
Member
Lol so the guy who called me a maphacker during the WCS games is GM now, rofl.
Crimsonlink
Member
What? lol Unbelievable that he is in GM.
Don't want to be a dick, but I wholeheartedly agree. More cash for better players.
Guys, I want your opinion on a idea to "fix" widow mines! Going to post this on Battles.net but I want to hear if its good or not ;O
Problem Widow Mines face are:
1: Long cool down: it's 40 second cool down is a bit ridiculous even if it one hits several units with its high burst damage. It's overall dps is very low (think its 3-4dps)
2. Short range: several units can with help of detection wipe out a whole army of widow mines like nothing. Even if you unborrow them and burrow right in front of them you will still lose all your widow mines.
3: too good in low league ranks and to bad in high league ranks. It does to much damage, kills a lot of units and its very cheap when used in low league rankings. People have a hard time facing them. But at the same time they are worthless in high leagues since people know how to kill them with ease
So to fix this I think it would be good with a long range mode (Siege mode)
1. Reduce its cool down to 25 from 40: Will help the unit be more of a harass unit and in positional play where placing widow mines are important. Research Drill Claws to reduce CD to 20 from 25
2. Starts with range 7: Widow mines start with range 4 in normal mode while range 7 with reduced damage output. Can be upgraded with the +1 range upgrade for Turrets and PF. So it becomes Range 5 and range 8.
3. Does low damage in Siege mode: Siege mode it deals 70 damage + 35 (or 15) shield damage and 20 splash damage from normal modes 125 damage + 35 shield damage and 40 splash. So now 1 Siege Mode Widow Mine cannot kill 1 unit with more health than 70 + 30 for shield damage. It also means that you need 2 Widow Mines to kill a whole army of Zerglings/Banelings. Mutas will also survive from 1 hit and you need plenty more to deal with them. It also makes you choose if you want long range/low damage or short range/high damage.
4. Changing modes will take 10 seconds: you cannot abuse changing from a 40s CD to a 20s CD without having the missile CD stopped until the mode change has been completed
So guys, what's your take on this?
Problem Widow Mines face are:
1: Long cool down: it's 40 second cool down is a bit ridiculous even if it one hits several units with its high burst damage. It's overall dps is very low (think its 3-4dps)
2. Short range: several units can with help of detection wipe out a whole army of widow mines like nothing. Even if you unborrow them and burrow right in front of them you will still lose all your widow mines.
3: too good in low league ranks and to bad in high league ranks. It does to much damage, kills a lot of units and its very cheap when used in low league rankings. People have a hard time facing them. But at the same time they are worthless in high leagues since people know how to kill them with ease
So to fix this I think it would be good with a long range mode (Siege mode)
1. Reduce its cool down to 25 from 40: Will help the unit be more of a harass unit and in positional play where placing widow mines are important. Research Drill Claws to reduce CD to 20 from 25
2. Starts with range 7: Widow mines start with range 4 in normal mode while range 7 with reduced damage output. Can be upgraded with the +1 range upgrade for Turrets and PF. So it becomes Range 5 and range 8.
3. Does low damage in Siege mode: Siege mode it deals 70 damage + 35 (or 15) shield damage and 20 splash damage from normal modes 125 damage + 35 shield damage and 40 splash. So now 1 Siege Mode Widow Mine cannot kill 1 unit with more health than 70 + 30 for shield damage. It also means that you need 2 Widow Mines to kill a whole army of Zerglings/Banelings. Mutas will also survive from 1 hit and you need plenty more to deal with them. It also makes you choose if you want long range/low damage or short range/high damage.
4. Changing modes will take 10 seconds: you cannot abuse changing from a 40s CD to a 20s CD without having the missile CD stopped until the mode change has been completed
So guys, what's your take on this?
AdventureRacing
Member
My take is widow mines are one of my favorite units right now and don't need to be touched. How about we focus on so many other units that actually need a change instead of making hasty changes to a unit people are still learning to use.
Catchafire2000
Member
Is he in GM? I watched that link and no where did it say that Tempo is a GM.
Red archons changed to life instead of shields, can feedback automatically 15 rangeGhost-based terrans would demolish that P so fast
Pretty sure he's Diamond.
THEY'RE CALLED DARK ARCHONS LEARN THE LORE