I completely agree with making the multiplayer portion of SC2 free to play with custom skins like Dota 2. Speaking from personal experience, I have a few friends who are curious about SC2 but don't want to commit the $80 for Wings and Heart, and I doubt that's a unique situation. I think making the multiplayer free to play would be great for the SC2 scene.
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//: StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm |OT| Like Riding a Bike
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i've got this bad feeling that blizzard are just riding SC2 out now. there's a prestige thing in eSports, but i remember a conference call the year after SC2's release where they stated while it's making a profit, it probably wasn't worth the opportunity cost. i bet HotS sales weren't anything wild, either.
either way, they'll trot out the next expansion back with a cornball campaign and minor, conservative design adjustments, put a skeleton team on it to do janitorial/balance shitwork and maybe try some new sales model four years too late.
blizzard just aren't a reflexive company. they're dinosaurs.
i hope i'm wrong, esports is already 50% of the way to being shorthand for "competitive MOBA".
Blizzard to do list:
I just came up with these stuff in 2 min.
Also, don't be an ass regarding your own cups and no other cups can be held.
EDIT: Oh, they also need to focus on getting MORE players intrested in the game, above points does that, but they need to be ambassadors for the scene in general.
- Make it free
- Make custom skin you can buy and/or earn ingame
- Make more eSport focuse, which means create custom leageus, cups etc ingame
- Add stream ingame for major tournaments
- The store should include stuff that are team and player related which you can buy to support said team
- Built in client for betting and/or a betting company for WW games, would make the eSport scene 10x more professional
I just came up with these stuff in 2 min.
Also, don't be an ass regarding your own cups and no other cups can be held.
EDIT: Oh, they also need to focus on getting MORE players intrested in the game, above points does that, but they need to be ambassadors for the scene in general.
been waiting since 2010
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Holy shit LOL I really loved this one
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yeah it was really funny :lol In my opinion when you attack move, your army shouldn't attack larvae! Looks so ridiculous!
AdventureRacing
Member
Isn't that one of the main reasons MLG dropped SC2, because they still make them pay whereas riot pays them?
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
It came out after that blizz wasnt gonna charge them.
AdventureRacing
Member
They shouldn't nerf widow mines. If it turns out terran is a little too strong they should look to make more units powerful not less. Let's not go back to WoL.
Which is good to hear, i hadn't really heard more about it.
Which is good to hear, i hadn't really heard more about it.
STX Soul to disband, Team 8 to acquire players.
Wow. Disbanding after winning the Proleague finals. wat
So INno to Team Acer is the popular story going around?
Wow. Disbanding after winning the Proleague finals. wat
So INno to Team Acer is the popular story going around?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
A quote from Blizzcon 2011... damn.
Most likely! Good to see Jin Air getting some new players, but this is pretty bad for Proleague.
Got put back into silver, guess that what happens when I went on a hiatus after a losing streak.
Guess I'll just have some fun untill I get promoted again.
First game, TvT.
Opponent goes CC first, I abandon my plans of going rax then CC, by going full on 3 rax with a CS push. He starts to float his buildings, I quickly build some vikings to hunt down his remaining buildings. He leaves without gg, I open a chat window, type gg and he replies with "fuck you! LAME!".
Good times, glad to be back SC!
Guess I'll just have some fun untill I get promoted again.
First game, TvT.
Opponent goes CC first, I abandon my plans of going rax then CC, by going full on 3 rax with a CS push. He starts to float his buildings, I quickly build some vikings to hunt down his remaining buildings. He leaves without gg, I open a chat window, type gg and he replies with "fuck you! LAME!".
Good times, glad to be back SC!
We still have not played any games yet Yoshibro!
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I can whenever nowadays, I got myself a laptop (finally!) and a decent Internet connection
No d/cs or crashes anymore!Jaedong vs MMA about to start in StarCraft 2 League (SC2L) in an Evil Geniuses vs Team Acer match.
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/sc2l
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/sc2l
Upcoming Balance Patch (Overseer)
I really like it. I think this'll make Widow Mine sniping much easier for Zergs and hopefully should dry up some of their tears.
David Kim said:
TeamLiquid said:
I really like it. I think this'll make Widow Mine sniping much easier for Zergs and hopefully should dry up some of their tears.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/starcraft-ii-player-innovation-to-sign-with-team-acer-6413684
Official. My God.
Ok, not really "official", but let us just say it is.
Official. My God.
Ok, not really "official", but let us just say it is.
Acer must have made INnoVation a nice offer because I don't really get the move, money aside. Hope he keeps up his play. Or, based on more recent results, gets it back. It's great for Acer though; with Scarlett, MMA and INnoVation I know I'll be paying a lot more attention to them.
OT for WCS Season 3 is up: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=662293
WCS Korea Premiere League Ro32 Group A happens in about 5 hours.
WCS Korea Premiere League Ro32 Group A happens in about 5 hours.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Got your email mairu. Cant wait for blizzcon
Oh hey:
Wild prediction #2: Kespa teams will join GSTL and GSTL/PL will alternate, the way OSL and GSL alternates.
God, I really hope not. I enjoy Proleague's format so much more than the way GSTL runs it. A unified league with a Proleague format would be awesome though.
r u just reading korean message boards and calling them 'wild predictions'?
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Wild Prediction #3:
Got your email mairu. Cant wait for blizzcon
So excited! But I would be more excited if Scarlett wasn't taking a break and would try to compete in s3 to make it to Blizzcon
No, I don't understand Korean, but I was a big fan of the Korean scene before SC2 was introduced. Actually, sometimes I wish I did understand Korean, so I could write up a case study about how they fucked everything up. I don't really participate in this thread, so I understand if you're skeptical. But if you're wondering where the predictions come from, I'll give you my line of reasoning:
Prediction 1: STX (the company) is fucked, and everyone knows it. Furthermore, they're don't have a consumer-facing business like KT, SK telecom/group, Samsung, CJ, etc. and have no real business reason to be involved in PL in the first place. After all, PL is just a vehicle for companies to promote their products and services to an audience - there's no admission charge, not that much merchandising, etc. So once the season is over and they can recover their deposit, they're out - the creditors sure aren't going to let them spend money in this way. Only people who are ignorant about the situation would have expected the team to continue in its current form. Now Kespa has been running the sponsorless team 8 for ages, so it's not like there are many companies knocking down on their door looking to get involved. So when Jin Air shows up, it makes no sense for them to pick up team 8, when the team that was STX Soul also needs a sponsor and is performing much better. The only reason they would agree to take team 8 is if they could raid STX for their talent as well, otherwise they're a sucker who put their money into PL only to take the worst team.
Prediction 2: PL has been performing poorly in the domestic market for quite some time now, yet still bears most of the expensive cost structure from the days when it was a successful vehicle for companies like SKT, KT, CJ, and Samsung to promote their products to a large, young audience. They've already taken some desperate measures to try to revive the fanbase, but it hasn't been working, and now it's LoL that has the large, young audience nowadays. So those companies buy their way into that scene, and predictably, a LoL PL is being formed. So what do you do with the SC2 PL? Ideally, you'd just drop it like a rock to immediately eliminate all the expenses involved, but that does your reputation no good. So you try to reduce the cost burden as much as possible. The effects are already visible - lowered production values, shifted to less valuable timeslots, reduced salaries and team rosters, etc. Now, with the loss of more teams (will Woongjin survive?) and problems also plaguing teams involved in GSTL, it makes sense to merge the leagues, and both parties are desperate enough to consider it. Kespa even gets to slough off the cost of production to Gretech, who do have a reason to stay in the business because of all the international subscription revenue. Gretech also has an incentive to try their best to keep the esf teams alive even though most of them are running on fumes, because if the esf teams fall, Kespa will have Gretech by the balls for GSL, their moneymaker (even though Kespa themselves aren't in a good situation). But Kespa needs to pretend to give a shit about the entire SC/2 PL that they built, so they'll alternate holding a PL of their own along with GSTL, just like how OGN pretends to still give a shit about OSL, when The Champions is where the money's at. I also expect the same long delays between seasons that the OSL experienced.
you seem knowledgeable.
can you tell me more about the current structure and development of the business side of the pro-lol scene in korea?