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//: StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm |OT| Like Riding a Bike
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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demosthenes
Member
Why isn't save all replays on?
If you want to embrace mech, I'd suggest downloading HTOMario's replay pack here!
Adventure is spot on btw, though even a few ghosts just splashed in can be a good answer. Also widow mines since their attack is a spell and thus ignores hardened shields. Widow mines as a complement will drastically reduce the immortals lifespan versus tank shots.
In general don't forget to scan during an engagement so your vikings and widow mines can maybe kill the obs and your cloaked banshees can go to down risk free. Also get comfortable with the kind of openings in that replay pack. The biggest thing with mech is understanding that your opening have to be different from bio, you're often going to be delaying your expo somewhat for earlier damage. Relying on your scouting to anticipate the tosses response.
So do i but he's stream isn't for everyone.
I would watch him, but his karate yelling every-time he wins is so loud. I wish I could mute him for only those portions. >.<
I just saw your new avatar quote.
Idk where it stemmed from, but say it isn't true. DMC2 is...good lord not a good game.
Finally!
I'm glad they're actually trying stuff that the community has been suggesting too. I'm pretty sure I've heard about decreasing the active time of PO thrown around here and TL in the past.
What this will also means is 20 less in-game seconds for the MSC to recharge energy for a potential second consecutive PO getting thrown down immediately after the first one ends.
Really hope this one makes it through. The approval rating among the community over at TL is already through the roof. lol
Yessir!
Just one of the many amazing games from a GSL finals that TL has named the greatest finals in GSL history!
And all the VODs are now available for FREE on YouTube so get on dat!
I like that but having a few Hellbats within your army composition would melt Zealots unless the Protoss saturated his army with them. I think the key is to nerf Immortals overall. It would not only help making mech a lot more viable against Protoss but it would also decrease the ridiculously stupid amount of efficiency they have in all-ins. They're +30 bonus base damage vs armored units is just beyond dumb. That gives them 34.5 DPS against things like Siege Tanks and Thors as a PASSIVE so you can just 1-A yolo to victory.
And Blink really needs to be nerfed in some way as well, which would again help in making mech viable as well as decreasing the effectiveness of all-ins. Maybe increase the cool down from 10 to 15 or decrease the range from 8 to 6 or 7.
Blizzard keeps trying to "buff" mech but what they should really be focusing on is nerfing bullshit units, abilities and gimmicks for Protoss.
Awesome! But when are they releasing 2011 VODs?
There are so many games I want to watch from 2011.
Crimsonlink
Member
Finally!
I'm glad they're actually trying stuff that the community has been suggesting too. I'm pretty sure I've heard about decreasing the active time of PO thrown around here and TL in the past.
What this will also means is 20 less in-game seconds for the MSC to recharge energy for a potential second consecutive PO getting thrown down immediately after the first one ends.
Really hope this one makes it through. The approval rating among the community over at TL is already through the roof. lol
Yessir!
Just one of the many amazing games from a GSL finals that TL has named the greatest finals in GSL history!
And all the VODs are now available for FREE on YouTube so get on dat!
I like that but having a few Hellbats within your army composition would melt Zealots unless the Protoss saturated his army with them. I think the key is to nerf Immortals overall. It would not only help making mech a lot more viable against Protoss but it would also decrease the ridiculously stupid amount of efficiency they have in all-ins. They're +30 bonus base damage vs armored units is just beyond dumb. That gives them 34.5 DPS against things like Siege Tanks and Thors as a PASSIVE so you can just 1-A yolo to victory.
And Blink really needs to be nerfed in some way as well, which would again help in making mech viable as well as decreasing the effectiveness of all-ins. Maybe increase the cool down from 10 to 15 or decrease the range from 8 to 6 or 7.
Blizzard keeps trying to "buff" mech but what they should really be focusing on is nerfing bullshit units, abilities and gimmicks for Protoss.
Awesome! But when are they releasing 2011 VODs?
There are so many games I want to watch from 2011.
I totally agree for the most part. Sadly Toss can't deal with the Roach max if Immortals were nerfed. We have tanks for that thankfully. I do think they would nerf Blink though.
Anyways going to ladder my first game. Wish me luck. Also I don't save replays because I dislike clutter on my PC. I save the ones that are really good though. I just forget sometimes. >.>
I don't like the Photon Overcharge nerf. Not because its a nerf, but because it won't change one damn thing about early timing pushes/poke-ing.
Its fucking bullshit, I've seen people defend scv marine allins with just a sentry (to block the ramp), a stalker or two and MSC. The only reason I like MSC is for PvP. Finaly a defenders advantage in that mathup.
edit: My combat shield timing with 3-4 marauders and 15 marines gets killed by a MSC and 2-3 units as well. Its either go in and lose all while trying to kill a few units or wait for planetary nexus to finish and BAM, suddently theres 10 units out for him. And another PO.
Its fucking bullshit, I've seen people defend scv marine allins with just a sentry (to block the ramp), a stalker or two and MSC. The only reason I like MSC is for PvP. Finaly a defenders advantage in that mathup.
edit: My combat shield timing with 3-4 marauders and 15 marines gets killed by a MSC and 2-3 units as well. Its either go in and lose all while trying to kill a few units or wait for planetary nexus to finish and BAM, suddently theres 10 units out for him. And another PO.
unknownstranger
Member
Zealot/Stalker/Void Ray is arguably as good at defending a Roach all-in as Immortal/Stalker unless you have a Warp Prism with them. The only time it becomes a problem is if they research burrow, but unless you probe scouted it really early, there's a decent chance you have an Oracle already (or can at least build one).
Crimsonlink
Member
Man I found out how OP BC + Ravens are in a TvZ. Put down like 4 PDD and let your BCs wreak everything. It was amazing.
8 base zerg vs 4 base Terran.
8 base zerg vs 4 base Terran.
AdventureRacing
Member
I gotta say i really disagree with the idea of nerfing blink stalkers and just in general balancing through nerfs. Firstly because blink stalkers don't need to be nerfed imo but in general i'm just against them. Nerfing powerful units just ends up making the game boring, we've already been down that path in WoL. I'd rather we keep units that are powerful and just give the other races more tools to deal with them.
unknownstranger
Member
Now you see why (besides turtling) I hate mech.
Crimsonlink
Member
The only counter seems to be mass Muta and lings to clean up bases. Corruptors are too slow and die to 3/3 BCs pretty quickly. You have to pretty much go for a base trade and never engage the army.
unknownstranger
Member
Only thing that has a slim chance of working is going mass infestor and casting Neural Parasite on everything you can.
TaeJa laddering.
Getting a look at how he's handling the new maps.
Edit: According to the Player of the Year award that TaeJa received from onGamers, he won almost $100,000 in prize money from tournaments just in the year 2013. :O
Getting a look at how he's handling the new maps.
Edit: According to the Player of the Year award that TaeJa received from onGamers, he won almost $100,000 in prize money from tournaments just in the year 2013. :O
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
demosthenes
Member
Hyun vs Taeja with Dragon casting.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
T_T
Crimsonlink
Member
Use tanks to siege the 3rd if they go for an early one. Build Suppy Depots around your tanks or bunkers or go pure mech with hellion tank to end the game.
Yeah thats what i did earlier, i realized that it was pretty easy to contest
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
NASL fucked up the qualifiers for WCS NA? Shocking lol
AdventureRacing
Member
BW tournament should be fun. I think it's great that Gom is holding a couple of extra tournaments because 3 a year is not enough to support the scene there. Shame it's a terrible top 8 format. I know it's the best against the best but i can never get hyped for them. It's just the same top players taking the money and in general i find tournaments with that few players to be less hyped.
Really hope this gets a lot of support. Wonder if Tasteless is casting again.
I never had a chance to get into the Brood War eSports scene so this is gonna be especially amazing for me.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440143
OH MY GOD
Sounds like they're rounding up players who gave up SC2. Hopefully that means Bisu will show up too. If Flash and/or Jaedong find a chance to participate my shit will be lost.
Imagine if BoxeR made a special comeback for this...
OH MY GOD
Sounds like they're rounding up players who gave up SC2. Hopefully that means Bisu will show up too. If Flash and/or Jaedong find a chance to participate my shit will be lost.
Imagine if BoxeR made a special comeback for this...
They're doing well in SC2 now. I think it would be a mistake for them to BW. Leave it to the pros who couldn't make the transition. I'm holding out for Nada personally.
That's what she (your mom) said.
Looks like i'll miss out on the GSL finals. Not too upset I guess, being there before them means hopefully I'll get to go to a few games, and some semi finals maybe.
2014 WCS Season 1 America: Ladder Wildcard Qualifier happening right now!
Liquipedia bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_WCS_Season_1_America/Qualifier/Ladder_Wildcard
Bomber, qxc, Illusion and Hitman are competing.
WCS America: http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_america
BaseTradeTV: http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv
Rifkin was trying to get a Bomber game but apparently a lot of guys are showing up so he's gonna try to follow JonSnow through the bracket and that will eventually lead to Bomber.
Edit: LOL sWs made a comment to JonSnow before they started their match: "Whoever wins this goes on to be sacrificed to the god known as Bomber."
Gotta feel bad for anyone who got stuck in Bomber's part of the bracket.
Liquipedia bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_WCS_Season_1_America/Qualifier/Ladder_Wildcard
Bomber, qxc, Illusion and Hitman are competing.
WCS America: http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_america
BaseTradeTV: http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv
Rifkin was trying to get a Bomber game but apparently a lot of guys are showing up so he's gonna try to follow JonSnow through the bracket and that will eventually lead to Bomber.
Edit: LOL sWs made a comment to JonSnow before they started their match: "Whoever wins this goes on to be sacrificed to the god known as Bomber."
Gotta feel bad for anyone who got stuck in Bomber's part of the bracket.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
This isn't the ffx thread.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Nice stalking bro!
WHY ARE YOU LURKING AND NOT CHATTING WITH US?!
Also, I don't post as often as I used to in here and I immediately get this reaction upon posting? I am disappointed!
WHY ARE YOU LURKING AND NOT CHATTING WITH US?!
Also, I don't post as often as I used to in here and I immediately get this reaction upon posting
? I am disappointed!Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Cuz I didn't import itNice stalking bro!
WHY ARE YOU LURKING AND NOT CHATTING WITH US?!
Also, I don't post as often as I used to in here and I immediately get this reaction upon posting
Add 1 good Terran (fuck everything just Fantasy vs Jangbi again) and my dick is diamonds.
I will throw money at GOM for more seasons of BW.
REPOSTING GLORIOUS BW 2009 BATOO OSL MONTAGE
Watch that engagement at 1:45 minutes in. Better than the entirety of SC2 combined. And then 9 minutes in ;_;. And then at 20 we'll never see that micro of those next two engagements ;_;
I will throw money at GOM for more seasons of BW.
REPOSTING GLORIOUS BW 2009 BATOO OSL MONTAGE
Watch that engagement at 1:45 minutes in. Better than the entirety of SC2 combined. And then 9 minutes in ;_;. And then at 20 we'll never see that micro of those next two engagements ;_;