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//: StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm |OT| Like Riding a Bike
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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The Lamonster
Member
lol this thread is no different than the WWE threads
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
GEEEEEEEEGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!gaiz gaiz it finally happened!
feelz gud mang :3
Good job man! Platinum today is like Diamond 6 months ago before they fucked up the MMR!
Thanks, Yosh!
Yeah it feels weird being in a league with less than 100 players. lol
Also, HOLY FUCK!!
StarCraft II World Championship to be US$100,000 Winner-Takes-All Tournament
IEM said:
GET HYPE
Should be insane. I expect the level of preparation for all players involved will be through the roof.
Jezbollah
Member
<3 <3
Also, hold onto ya butts!
They just announced that the IEM World Championship will be a $100,000 winner-takes-all.
Doubt it.
This type of format for this much money has never been done before in SCII eSports, right? The glory of taking it all will be way more enticing for all participating players compared to throwing away all dignity and spirit of competition to orchestrate a match fixing scandal.
If news spreads as it should, stream numbers could hit a record high.
Edit: Though the choice for IEM to go through with this is pretty humorous after this article Carmac wrote in late 2012: Five problems of StarCraft II - #4: MIDDLE CLASS IS DYING
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Winner takes all? Eww
Comments from the higher-ups involved:
Great rationale, imo. With the WCS system taking over and offering opportunities for players of every caliber along with DreamHack getting bigger and better, IEM fell off the radar last year. Even if it's just a one time thing, they're hoping this'll put their name back on the map.
The hate train so far is pretty ridiculous but not unexpected, I suppose. Hate it or love it, anybody involved in StarCraft II will be tuning in for the grand final and people will be talking about this event for all of 2014 and beyond.
James "Kennigit" Lampkin (ESL TV Product Manager) said:
Michal "Carmac" Blicharz (IEM Director) said:
Great rationale, imo. With the WCS system taking over and offering opportunities for players of every caliber along with DreamHack getting bigger and better, IEM fell off the radar last year. Even if it's just a one time thing, they're hoping this'll put their name back on the map.
The hate train so far is pretty ridiculous but not unexpected, I suppose. Hate it or love it, anybody involved in StarCraft II will be tuning in for the grand final and people will be talking about this event for all of 2014 and beyond.
That's what Holdens mom said.
AdventureRacing
Member
Spot on. IEM has done so much for the SC2 community in the past. They have given away tons of prize money to a variety of players and they help the players more than most tournaments.
As you said IEM has fell off the map, dreamkhack has basically completely taken over them. Is it so wrong for them to do this to build huge hype around the event? They still run other tournaments which aren't winner takes all. There is still WCS, MLG, dreamhack, IEM events, shoutcraft, pro-league and most likely tons of other tournaments for players to win prize money. Considering the size of the SC2 fan base it's pretty damn hard to complain about the amount of prize money available to players.
This type of thing builds hype and it's a smart move from IEM. Of course the usual knee jerk reaction of the SC2 community is to immediately start whinging but that doesn't make it wrong. Just look how much attention this is already getting and the event isn't for fucking ages.
gaiz gaiz it finally happened!
feelz gud mang :3
Don't worry im close
Edit: Man its hilarious how a Raven BC transition from hellion tank wins me a lot of games
demosthenes
Member
MKP streaming!
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Why won't my phone alert me?! Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't... I have to manually check almost every hour to make sure I'm not missing anything good T_T
Also, HOLY FUCK!!
StarCraft II World Championship to be US$100,000 Winner-Takes-All Tournament
GET HYPE
Should be insane. I expect the level of preparation for all players involved will be through the roof.
Sounds pointless to me, but what are you gonna do if even Counterstrike is kicking your ass now?
I love it actually. Though obviously pot splitting will be a very large concern heading into it, I dont think its as 100% guaranteed as many predict. First of all, its easy to make an agreement in the moment before the match, but once the excitement fades and you actually get the money, whose to say that player would even pay up? Money and greed can suddenly rear its ugly head, and I dont know how many would actually end up paying the estimated 60-40/70-30/80-20 split once you have the cash in your hand.
Whose to say that the person who is waiting for his money will even come out to the community and reveal that he is owed the money, basically admitting to pot splitting? I cant see too many people in the community having too much sympathy for that person, unfair as it may be.
Whose to say that the person who is waiting for his money will even come out to the community and reveal that he is owed the money, basically admitting to pot splitting? I cant see too many people in the community having too much sympathy for that person, unfair as it may be.
Crimsonlink
Member
On SC2 right now. Lets see how my laddering goes. Maybe I'll be able to join Samurai after a couple of days of laddering.
Also as for the huge IEM tournament.
I'm all the way for it. 1 person gets payed, everyone else is screwed. We are gonna get so many Fantasy GG timings from people unwilling to give up. Lot less cheese too depending on the risk.
So I am hyped as hell for this.
Also as for the huge IEM tournament.
I'm all the way for it. 1 person gets payed, everyone else is screwed. We are gonna get so many Fantasy GG timings from people unwilling to give up. Lot less cheese too depending on the risk.
So I am hyped as hell for this.
eSF to disband. Not really surprising, I guess.
https://twitter.com/Ethan_Ahn/status/428055871491289088
https://twitter.com/Ethan_Ahn/status/428055871491289088
Crimsonlink
Member
Well shit I guess that means ST and Azubu will become Kespa teams? 10 teams... Too bad Proleague already started.
So sad to hear. I hope Gom comes out of this alright.
Anyways ladder went decently. Surprisingly found out that Ghosts are good late game. EMP medivacs and do 23 damage to all light units. I disconnected thanks to internet which soured the experience but I still need a few days to get back to where I was in the meta.
IEM Sao Paulo OT: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=759213
Doesn't look like they're streaming the dual tournaments for SC2 since it's just a bunch of local unknown Brazilian players and group play doesn't start for another two days but I had to throw it up just in case anybody wanted to watch LoL, which starts in a few hours.
Don't forget to do what I do and copy/paste this after every time you hold off a scumbag Protoss all-in: ♪ Give me free wins! ♪ Just retire! ♪ Take your cheesing! ♪ Back to Aiur! ♪
;D
Yeah, it was obvious it was coming but damn that's still a little depressing to see.
Doesn't look like they're streaming the dual tournaments for SC2 since it's just a bunch of local unknown Brazilian players and group play doesn't start for another two days but I had to throw it up just in case anybody wanted to watch LoL, which starts in a few hours.
Don't forget to do what I do and copy/paste this after every time you hold off a scumbag Protoss all-in: ♪ Give me free wins! ♪ Just retire! ♪ Take your cheesing! ♪ Back to Aiur! ♪
;D
Yeah, it was obvious it was coming but damn that's still a little depressing to see.
Crimsonlink
Member
IEM Sao Paulo OT: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=759213
Doesn't look like they're streaming the dual tournaments for SC2 since it's just a bunch of local unknown Brazilian players and group play doesn't start for another two days but I had to throw it up just in case anybody wanted to watch LoL, which starts in a few hours.
Don't forget to do what I do and copy/paste this after every time you hold off a scumbag Protoss all-in: ♪ Give me free wins! ♪ Just retire! ♪ Take your cheesing! ♪ Back to Aiur! ♪
;D
Yeah, it was obvious it was coming but damn that's still a little depressing to see.
Dude that is what every Terran should do vs Protoss. Thanks!
im tempted to play dota because of the new luna set -.-
do it
im playing right now since i lost to toss :<
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Play wings of liberty and get gm easy.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
How easy is easy? Are we talking like, protoss easy here?
Not even your mom is that easy.
Keep at it, kasane!
Update on the IEM craze: James "Kennigit" Lampkin (ESL TV Product Manager) with a more extensive argument for the reasoning behind the $100,000 Winner-Takes-All World Championship (from the latest episode of Unfiltered)
Even Destiny chimes in.
I pretty much agree with everything they're saying. I don't think there's anyway this'll be bad for the SC2 eSports scene. ESL may be screwed if it doesn't generate at the very least the minimal amount of hype/numbers they're anticipating that it will, but this can only be good for the game. The state of tournament formats in StarCraft II is hardly at a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" stage at the moment.
Update on the IEM craze: James "Kennigit" Lampkin (ESL TV Product Manager) with a more extensive argument for the reasoning behind the $100,000 Winner-Takes-All World Championship (from the latest episode of Unfiltered)
Even Destiny chimes in.
I pretty much agree with everything they're saying. I don't think there's anyway this'll be bad for the SC2 eSports scene. ESL may be screwed if it doesn't generate at the very least the minimal amount of hype/numbers they're anticipating that it will, but this can only be good for the game. The state of tournament formats in StarCraft II is hardly at a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" stage at the moment.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Don't buy into the hype brah.
AdventureRacing
Member
The thread on TL alone has 1000 posts and 50000 plus views and that's just the announcement. If they hadn't done this you would be lucky to see 1/10th of that interest in this tournament. It's a good idea and the backlash is laughable. IEM have done a shitload for the scene and have stuck around even when SC2 was supposedly dying. Even with this tournament they are paying for flights and accommodation which has got to help.
I just don't see the problem with this one tournament being winner takes all. Everyone keeps arguing how it hurts the little guys. This tournament is basically best of the best. Whilst some lower players get in for the most part it's already successful players. The ones who need the money the most won't even get here and have no chance in hell of winning money at this tournament.
The best thing for the scene is if this pulls in tons of viewers and interest. That's exactly what the scene needs and it's the best way to attract sponsors to the game for teams and tournaments (which is the best way to make the scene thrive and help out those lesser known players).
Considering the huge amount of interest so far that seems unlikely. I will say that the racial makeup so far doesn't look too good. Hopefully we at least get a few terrans or it could hurt things. That plus a few foreigner would help the tournament greatly ESPECIALLY if one somehow wins.
I just don't see the problem with this one tournament being winner takes all. Everyone keeps arguing how it hurts the little guys. This tournament is basically best of the best. Whilst some lower players get in for the most part it's already successful players. The ones who need the money the most won't even get here and have no chance in hell of winning money at this tournament.
The best thing for the scene is if this pulls in tons of viewers and interest. That's exactly what the scene needs and it's the best way to attract sponsors to the game for teams and tournaments (which is the best way to make the scene thrive and help out those lesser known players).
Considering the huge amount of interest so far that seems unlikely. I will say that the racial makeup so far doesn't look too good. Hopefully we at least get a few terrans or it could hurt things. That plus a few foreigner would help the tournament greatly ESPECIALLY if one somehow wins.
Blizzard really need to fix this shit before the next major round of tournaments. Maru was the only terran who could stand up to protoss consistently, and even he's lost now. I already expect Code S to be a shit show for terran, but Blizzard have let this go on too long already, and it keeps getting worse.
AdventureRacing
Member
This wildcard match is getting insane. They're going for another go around just crazy how long they've been playing.
Nice! Yeah, agree with everything you're saying too. And there's definitely no such thing as bad publicity. As long as people are talking about it.
Yeah, 4 Protoss and 2 Zergs at this point... Yuck. We have to place our hopes in Bomber, Polt and jjakji in Sao Paulo... I actually don't think a TvT finals would be completely out of the question. Depends if herO came as prepared as last time. He did defeat Maru 2-0 in the Asian Final Qualifier but then also got 2-0'd by Bbyong somehow in the winners final so he's definitely not unbeatable in PvT.
Ermagerd, as a Low-to-Mid Gold Zerg i just won a ZvZ against a Diamond Zerg !
I guess this says more about the state of the matchup, but I dun care!
Congrats, bro!
IEM World Championship in Katowice StarCraft II Open Qualifiers
So two invitees, three winners from each of the three respective regional qualifiers and one winner from a separate open bracket.
Should work but I'm not a fan of letting the Koreans participate in the American and European qualifier. Besides NaNiwa it's already gonna be all Koreans. A few foreigners would also be nice.
I wonder who the two invites will be... maybe two out of Soulkey, INnoVation and Jaedong? They were Top 3 in WCS Points last year. I could also see sOs and maybe Stephano.
So two invitees, three winners from each of the three respective regional qualifiers and one winner from a separate open bracket.
Should work but I'm not a fan of letting the Koreans participate in the American and European qualifier. Besides NaNiwa it's already gonna be all Koreans. A few foreigners would also be nice.
I wonder who the two invites will be... maybe two out of Soulkey, INnoVation and Jaedong? They were Top 3 in WCS Points last year. I could also see sOs and maybe Stephano.