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//: StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm |OT| Like Riding a Bike
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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My impression is that he's being a showman for the sake of getting picked up by a team. He would get picked up by a team anyway if he used his anti-Taeja strat but I'm guessing he doesn't want to be known as a one trick pony.
Corran Horn
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AdventureRacing
Member
It's strange though because playing really strong macro games doesn't really make you a one trick pony. It's not like he was just doing some allin. Either way it looks really good and i think we will be seeing him a lot more in the near future.
HoodWinked
Member
its happening.
AdventureRacing
Member
Holy shit this game is crazy. Such an incredible finals and this is the perfect way to top it off.
HoodWinked
Member
lol it happened.
this is going to haunt bomber. could have drawn.
this is going to haunt bomber. could have drawn.
unknownstranger
Member
I'm surprised Terran lift to the gold so often against Protoss. Almost every all-in can counter any Terran tries to do on one base. 2 base Immortal, Tempests, Dark Templar, etc.
AdventureRacing
Member
I don't like it either but they must see some success using it to keep trying it on the big stage.
)unknownstranger
Member
It depends on what kind of all-in they go for. The one Bomber did was way too slow and gave Pigbaby enough time to tech up. If he just went for a bunker rush then it would have been much more effective.
When did Pigbaby come over to WCS America anyways? I always remember seeing him in Code A or first round of Code S.
HoodWinked
Member
its cause this is in the community forums now.
He said that he joined Jin Air, but they kind of fucked him over and never really let him play, so he left and decided to try his luck in NA. Good plan as it turned out.
Woo 4/5 so far for new season. I hear Pigbaby and Bomber was a great series? Will have to catch up.
Also proleague: everyone should watch this match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnnRR0MjR-4&list=UUAI86CUHDIkKXGA6YpVBhYg
Also what do you guys think about the new maps? I am loathe to really veto new maps until I have had a lot of time with them, but my ladder points and must get back to masters... :\
Also proleague: everyone should watch this match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnnRR0MjR-4&list=UUAI86CUHDIkKXGA6YpVBhYg
Also what do you guys think about the new maps? I am loathe to really veto new maps until I have had a lot of time with them, but my ladder points and must get back to masters... :\
unknownstranger
Member
Will watch.
If he wasn't so good his constant cheese would be embarrassing, but he literally did not make a single mistake that game aside from one which was related to multitasking and not seeing a bane runby. Everything he did was... perfect...
and this is with the 2 rax being thwarted
ESL just posted the finals and such on youtube. Watching Heart vs Bomber now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKEryDpreps&list=PLhCH_nPE4JTpbdLgYAbvt9DKMUcrN4Rdu
Edit: Forgot proleague was on. Watching that instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKEryDpreps&list=PLhCH_nPE4JTpbdLgYAbvt9DKMUcrN4Rdu
Edit: Forgot proleague was on. Watching that instead.
Maru is just too good. Watching him play is like watching Flash on steroids, every movement has a purpose, every bunker is used for simcity, it is just nuts. Not that I don't love Flash, but Maru can not be stopped.
Destiny I update
Destiny I update
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/destiny-i
Tanks that can cliff jump.
But do we call the upgraded Thor a Thor-tron or Mega-thor?
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
i really honestly like the idea the of being able to combine each mech unit into a mega mech.
I'm not really a part of the sc2 community anymore and I'm vvlttp on this...but I can't get Temp0's parody song "When I'm Grandmaster" outta my head. I like it many times more than the original.
Makes me want to play again.
Makes me want to play again.
AdventureRacing
Member
I would actually like to see this.
Everyone I know moved to Dota 2 which right now is more fun to play, watch, learn, and has amazing developer support behind it and community tools to do everything on their own.
Smash has better hype and story lines and is coming back, maybe people just need to start this back from the ground up like some of the smaller Korean sponsored tournaments. Smash is huge despite being so old with no support.
I was going to go to MLG just for Smash alone and had little intent of watching SC2 it's gotten that bad.
BW is gone but will always be the best.
It's really hard for SC2 to compete with all the intricacies of an older game, many of which were unintentional or had profound impact (12 unit cap, no MBS, no smart casting, harvester gathering efficiency/supply/base saturation, etc. -> leads to important small skirmishes and armies being imperfect, etc.
When Blizzard removed SC2 from their webpage it's really telling imo, they aren't getting any money from it even though it really shouldn't many resources they could seriously monetize it better or just make it F2P to give the scene some more life.
Smash has better hype and story lines and is coming back, maybe people just need to start this back from the ground up like some of the smaller Korean sponsored tournaments. Smash is huge despite being so old with no support.
I was going to go to MLG just for Smash alone and had little intent of watching SC2 it's gotten that bad.
BW is gone but will always be the best.
It's really hard for SC2 to compete with all the intricacies of an older game, many of which were unintentional or had profound impact (12 unit cap, no MBS, no smart casting, harvester gathering efficiency/supply/base saturation, etc. -> leads to important small skirmishes and armies being imperfect, etc.
When Blizzard removed SC2 from their webpage it's really telling imo, they aren't getting any money from it even though it really shouldn't many resources they could seriously monetize it better or just make it F2P to give the scene some more life.
I still like SC2 the most to watch. I honestly find Dota 2 the most tedious to play. I passed 400 hours, and wonder why I spent so long with it. These days I play 1-2 games of Smite. Quicker matches and overall more fun than Dota 2 for me, even with the lower skill ceiling. I'll watch some of the International, but won't go out of my way for it.
I've never seriously watched or played Smash Bros so have no opinion on it.
I've never seriously watched or played Smash Bros so have no opinion on it.
unknownstranger
Member
I've been watching a lot more of Smash Bros lately. Watched the entire tournament they had at E3. Biggest problem with watching it is how bad it looks now. Hopefully Smash 4 takes off with the tournament scene.
AdventureRacing
Member
The community for dota 2 seems pretty awesome and when you see stuff like the international it makes me want to get involved. The game just isn't fun to watch or to play for me no matter how much i try.
Smash i'm actually a fan of but it still is no replacement for SC2. Is SC2 as good as BW? Fuck no but neither is dota2, smash or any other esport. It's still my favorite game to watch besides that by far.
This really needs to happen and is almost a necessity for esports these days. I just don't think blizzard is going to do it. It sucks because that's why the game gets so little love between expansions, that's the only time they really make money so that's the only time to put in effort.
Such a huge waste.
There's a lot they could be doing to monetize better and it's annoying that they seem like they don't even care to try. Unit/building skins, decals, colors, announcer packs, UI overlays, animations, whatever else. Learn from Valve and put some effort into community features and a sound f2p model. Instead you have to buy two games just to play current ladder. Their approach to LotV pricing will be really telling, because potential players aren't gonna want to buy a trilogy to play competitive SC2.
MOBAs are so fucking boring to play. Doing the micro of one unit, is literally the easiest shit in the world to do. Decision making is hilariously minimal compared to an RTS. I'll never understand it.
Smash has a good comeback, but it is definitely leaning heavily on Nintendo fans having nowhere else to invest there attention in the esports space. Good storyline/drama with Nintendo &EVO and the new game are the catalysts for the renewed interests, whether it lasts is questionable.
I understand why SC2 is declining and why there is no RTS on the way to replace it. As a spectator they're more complicated than other games. And seeing as most viewers of gaming streams are current/former players of the game, it doesn't help that RTS take more skill, are less social, losses can only be blamed on yourself, require oodles more attention/APM than other genres, and are very, very difficult to make work with the F2P model.
Smash has a good comeback, but it is definitely leaning heavily on Nintendo fans having nowhere else to invest there attention in the esports space. Good storyline/drama with Nintendo &EVO and the new game are the catalysts for the renewed interests, whether it lasts is questionable.
I understand why SC2 is declining and why there is no RTS on the way to replace it. As a spectator they're more complicated than other games. And seeing as most viewers of gaming streams are current/former players of the game, it doesn't help that RTS take more skill, are less social, losses can only be blamed on yourself, require oodles more attention/APM than other genres, and are very, very difficult to make work with the F2P model.
AdventureRacing
Member
Being able to engage the community is just so crucial for an esport. It's a shame because the community could bring so much more to the game if given the chance (in particular when it comes to maps).
I'd like to see them at least give it a go. I think there are plenty of ways to make an RTS game work using the F2P model. It will just take a bit of foresight to make it work.
At this point i think the chances of them going F2P are effectively zero but i can still hope to see it.