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//: StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm |OT| Like Riding a Bike

Even though I never participated in an old school gaf night, there needs to be more gaf nights.

Also, saw this on reddit but sue me. If the Lurker is back, they need to give it the ability to hold fire. It was a micro trick in BW, but they should give the lurkers hold fire if that is not possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FasNT0eFzw

Also unit costs for LoTV as shown at Blizzcon
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2m1b3c/lotv_unitupgrade_costs/


The other stats are up at: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/16654945/legacy-of-the-void-multiplayer-preview-11-8-2014

Marauders have 2 attacks at 5(+5vs armored), instead of 1 at 10(+10vs armored)

does this mean that Marauders now do 5 less dmg to armored units or does it do +5 to armored twice?

Ravager upgrade seems really expensive unless it comes with a decent damage boost as well. Lurker's require too much time for them to be useful in anything but late game. Need a Lair, then a Hydralisk's Den, then upgrade the Hydralisk's Den (you'll need to build a second one if you want Hydra upgrade's during this time), then upgrade the range at the Lurker's Den (cost isn't mentioned in this) so they can outrange static defense. Ignoring the Lair you'll need to spend likely around 300/350 and about 5 minutes for them to be decent. Ultralisk upgrade is interesting but I'm expecting the armor buff at the Ultralisk Cavern to be reduced to 1 and cost 100/100 at most. Would be fun seeing 7 armor Ultra's though. New Swarm Hosts seem kind of useless without the upgrade unless they're cheaper. Disruptor's seem awful. They should at least stealth when they attack so they have a little more chance to hit something.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Glad I won't be having to deal with Early Game Lurker Harrasment! Too hard to deal with...
 

Lethe82

Banned
Nathanias just said that Marauder now does 2 attacks at half damage.

10 dmg versus and 20 total versus armored

5 damage and 10 versus armored

NOOOOOOOOOOOO Raven PDD only lasts for 20 seconds, 30 seconds with Upgrade.

I guess that effectively kills the mass Raven Hellbat build.

dreamt that mkp lost

fuck this shit

When is this tourney anyway?
 

SamuraiX-

Member
It's about that time again, fellas. Need a weekend of the chillest SC2 around to get you over your BlizzCon hangover?

HomeStory Cup X is finally here!! The venue for this tenth anniversary event is siiiick!

deez groups doe

i6HCZKlvBw2wr.png


Also, TL always have solid hype previews but they went above and beyond with this one. Highly recommended read: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/471158-homestory-cup-x-preview-the-blizzcon-hangover

Drinking Bingo game is OP:


Strims: http://www.twitch.tv/taketv
http://www.twitch.tv/taketvbstream
 

Syf

Banned
The community manager said they've already made major changes to the LotV build we saw at BlizzCon so I wouldn't put too much weight on anything they showed there.
 
It's about that time again, fellas. Need a weekend of the chillest SC2 around to get you over your BlizzCon hangover?

HomeStory Cup X is finally here!! The venue for this tenth anniversary event is siiiick!

deez groups doe

i6HCZKlvBw2wr.png


Also, TL always have solid hype previews but they went above and beyond with this one. Highly recommended read: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/471158-homestory-cup-x-preview-the-blizzcon-hangover

Drinking Bingo game is OP:



Strims: http://www.twitch.tv/taketv
http://www.twitch.tv/taketvbstream

Watching rebroadcast!
 
Immortal change will make them really weak in PvZ and pretty bad in PvT. My guess is they'll get more armor (2) and a decent damage boost against non-armored plus maybe a small nerf to armored.
 
I'm kind of worried about the marauder nerf, they're basically going to tickle anything that is not armored and be worse against anything that is.

Realtime or not? The pros and cons of switching to real time in Starcraft II

Marauder change will actually help them in TvZ and hurt them slightly in TvP. 3/3 Marauders will now deal 12 damage against 2/2 Zerglings unlike the 11 they do now. If attack and armor upgrades are the same as what they're attacking they do the same amount of damage. It helps them if they have an advantage and hurts them if they have a disadvantage.
 

Lethe82

Banned
Marauder change will actually help them in TvZ and hurt them slightly in TvP. 3/3 Marauders will now deal 12 damage against 2/2 Zerglings unlike the 11 they do now. If attack and armor upgrades are the same as what they're attacking they do the same amount of damage. It helps them if they have an advantage and hurts them if they have a disadvantage.

My understanding is that now they attack twice, so armor bonuses are counted twice? Am I just sleepy and stupid?

Because the old way of attacking only counted the armor once, now it counts twice to the total.

EDIT: Oh I see you're right, the math works out.

Still with Ultras having a base +1 Armor over their old form, blehhhh!

Still Blizzard has said that they want to remove/dramatically weaken hard counters, so who am I to complain.
 
Holy crap at that HomeStory Cup lineup. If at least one of my friends was remotely interested in SC2 I would go to the local Barcraft over there.

Since this isn't the case I'll be stalking out the korean bars in Duesseldorf. You never know... Flash might come by and drink some Soju with me :D
 

Lethe82

Banned
Group E Spoilers

He already 2-0'd Socke before this set : D

EDIT: Flash moves on to Ro16 winning both sets (2-0) and goes 4-1 (dropping a game to first) by maps.
 

Spl1nter

Member
Uh oh, I think I have fallen down the Hearthstone rabbit hole. It was just there in this new battle net client asking to be downloaded and played. I blame you Jason.
 

SamuraiX-

Member
jjakji has been falling off so hard ever since MMA destroyed him in the DreamHack Moscow finals. That loss must have really got to him. MaNa just ended his tournament run in the Ro32.

Also, 5 foreigners are already through to the Ro16 with potential for one or two more. Represent!

I look forward to HyuN thrashing Jaedong and then Lilbow advancing over JD 2-1 in the decider match.

Jaedong pls ;_;
 

Lethe82

Banned
Watching the initial group stages reminds me that there is so much depth to the game that you don't really get as much just watching GLS tourneys where all the players are very conformist.
 

SamuraiX-

Member
This DeMu/iNcontroL/Rotti casting for qxc vs JD is absolutely slaying me.

lmfao

Edit: qxc with two of the biggest throws in SC2 history both in one day. First was Game 2 vs HyuN, now Game 1 vs JD. smfh
 

survivor

Banned
Looks like the Flash vs Jaedong dream is over. JD's group has MC, Yoda and Taeja. I highly doubt 2014 JD can get out of this group, but it would be cool if he somehow does.
 
This DeMu/iNcontroL/Rotti casting for qxc vs JD is absolutely slaying me.

lmfao

Those 3 are all fantastic at an event like this. Rotti again showing why he is the best caster (with ToD close behind). Love the 2 of them casting together.

Edit: qxc with two of the biggest throws in SC2 history both in one day. First was Game 2 vs HyuN, now Game 1 vs JD. smfh

Did you listen to Jaedongs interview? The one where he said how he never thought at all that he would lose either game against QXC. Kinda funny considering the position he was in, either he is supremely confident in his own skills or really things poorly of foreign players lol.
 

SamuraiX-

Member
Apparently Flash has a "real" Twitter account now! https://twitter.com/SC2FlaSh

Those 3 are all fantastic at an event like this. Rotti again showing why he is the best caster (with ToD close behind). Love the 2 of them casting together.

For sure. Everybody has so much charisma and the best part is that they're all so free to cast however they want since the aura of the entire tournament is chilling out. All the wise cracks and personal good-hearted shots at other players/casters are amazing. I love how the format works out so that even though a lot of the lower tier players are knocked out on Day 1 and 2, then they join in on multi-casts and we get to see more of their personality than we would otherwise.

Did you listen to Jaedongs interview? The one where he said how he never thought at all that he would lose either game against QXC. Kinda funny considering the position he was in, either he is supremely confident in his own skills or really things poorly of foreign players lol.

I completely missed this. lol

Never Die Jaedong, indeed.


Also, TaeJa vs MC Game 1... wtf man, TaeJa just DOES. NOT. DIE. The resilience of this guy is almost unmatched.
 

survivor

Banned
Pretty sad TY games were relegated to the B stream with terrible casters. He has been fantastic in this tourney so far taking out foreigners left and right. Hopefully he doesn't crash and burn in top 8.
 

SamuraiX-

Member
Holy shit, what a beautiful Game 1 from JD. Identifying the third CC, went for mass aggression, droned up and went double evo chambers as soon as he killed +10 SCVs, flanking the Hellions outside the base and not letting them pick off Zerglings/Banelings for free. That didn't look like the same Jaedong that would've just kept pushing the issue and going all in after gaining an advantage without transitioning back home. That execution was just so sexy.
 
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