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//: StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm |OT| Like Riding a Bike
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EJ will teach you his ways
I guess it doesn't "suck" but it's just not up to the standard of the glorious gameplay. It's a typical video game trashy cliched story with plot holes and broken continuity.
Also, Brood War story is much better and has a different direction (aka much darker, grittier) which fans miss.
This is the Bay-age of story telling, good in it own regard, but not as full filling.
Not really sure I agree that the old games are objectively "better" in terms of story.
As I expected, super hyped the entire evening for MLG, first match starts and the players get introduced! Falls asleep....
NA or EU?
Well, accodring to "fans" they say its better.
But each to his own, I like it for what it is.
Synth_floyd
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The scope of the two stories is totally different. SC1 was about a clash of civilizations. SC2 is a romance between 2 characters. You can tell why fans like the first one better.
I wonder if Activision is to blame for the "dumbing down" or mass appeal-ization of the story. I wouldn't be surprised if they were the cause of the dumbing down of Diablo 3 as well.
The dialogue and voice acting had more emotion to it and was less cheesy when it was trying to be serious. The story was darker. Kerrigan wasn't a damsel in distress with doe eyes towards Raynor. She was angry and bitter at being left to the Zerg and once she assumed control, she wanted to kill everyone and assert dominance so she would never be helpless again. Raynor wanted to kill her for all the people she betrayed and playing him for a fool.
SC2 messed with continuity a bit (always annoying to fans) and turned the story into something else. Now apparently they were in love (although they were fond of each other SCBW never mentioned an actual relationship or love) and he wanted to rescue her and run off and get married and ignore the universe or something (he said as much in the beginning of HotS). In SC1 they only knew each other briefly and flirted a bit before she was left behind to the Zerg.
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i'm more partial to the idea that metzen has been chasing the same girl for the last decade and his creative output is the equivalent of sending her a mix tape in middle school.
Treemonkeys
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Story was fucking awesome, lol at blaming activision just because you don't like the story.
It's definitely an above average video game story. It's funny how some other game's stories will be praised compared to this one around here. It's just some serious rose tinted goggles over a story we went through when we were over 10 years younger. You can go back and play it again and try to be objective, but it's always the first impression a story leaves on you that counts. I know my middle school self would be shitting his pants over how awesome SC2 is.
It's definitely an above average video game story. It's funny how some other game's stories will be praised compared to this one around here. It's just some serious rose tinted goggles over a story we went through when we were over 10 years younger. You can go back and play it again and try to be objective, but it's always the first impression a story leaves on you that counts. I know my middle school self would be shitting his pants over how awesome SC2 is.
EscapingJail
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During his attack that killed your nat at around 12 minutes you were pretty far behind. but you seemed to rebound well because he was light on the pressure from there.
When you killed all the workers at his 3rd while he was attacking your 3rd you should have pulled the mutas back and fought together with the lings. crushing his army and keeping your economy.
Take a 4th earlier and try to tech to ultralisks with like 3 infestors if you get into the lategame economy. (4th base for Zerg).
Ditto haha, The story was perfectly fine. Yes it wasn't anything award winning. But it's definitely above average when you compare it to most of the crap we get today.
Brutal was also WAY to easy, I mean, only problem I have had is
that last boss on the jungle planet due to cheapness... big Lizard dude
EscapingJail
Member
I keep hearing people say that boss was hard, but I beat that level my first attempt haha. (On Brutal, first run though the game.)
Also the Swarm host level too. I just massed Mutas, didn't make a single swarm host LOL.
EscapingJail
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god dammit blizz
Couldn't have said it better myself. This isn't nostalgia speaking, people. SC2/BW had way better, less convoluted story lines.
This happens a lot with sequels btw. Hollywood keeps rebooting movies because much of the same reason, it's easier to start with a blank slate.
FWIW, the actual missions in HotS are very well designed and obviously took many man-hours to create. I personally think it's a bit too much Diablo and not enough Starcraft, but I appreciate the effort they put into it.
MurkyZebra2417
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Finished the campaign on hard, my thoughts:
+ Great Mission design
+ Good representation of the Story
+ Evolving Swarm was fun
+ Kerrigan was fun to control
- A bit too easy
- Too little Protoss
- Story didn't really advance much
- Evolution Missions could have been better
Overall I really liked it, but I am eagerly waiting for the Protoss campaign
+ Great Mission design
+ Good representation of the Story
+ Evolving Swarm was fun
+ Kerrigan was fun to control
- A bit too easy
- Too little Protoss
- Story didn't really advance much
- Evolution Missions could have been better
Overall I really liked it, but I am eagerly waiting for the Protoss campaign
Finished the campaign on hard, my thoughts:
+ Great Mission design
+ Good representation of the Story
+ Evolving Swarm was fun
+ Kerrigan was fun to control
+ A bit too easy
- Too little Protoss
- Story didn't really advance much
- Evolution Missions could have been better
Overall I really liked it, but I am eagerly waiting for the Protoss campaign
wat
MurkyZebra2417
Member
I don't know, WoL gave me a harder time. I didn't had to restart any mission here....
why didnt you switch to brutal?
MurkyZebra2417
Member
Brutal is no fun =)
Because you'd have to restart missions?
I haven't played HotS so far, but what they set up with WoL pretty much took a huge dump on SC1 story already.
I can recommend this video series (even though I think he is exaggerating in some parts and he sometimes comes off as a douche, but whatever)
It's trying to emulate redlettermedia, so if you can't stand that, better not watch it.
If you think this is really bad, at least watch part 3 and 4. I think they wonderfully illustrate what's wrong with SC2s story. Part 1 is not the strong point of this review.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E95k-Gajk1E
Very strong argument...
One story is about stealing fire from the gods, betrayal and revenge.
The other is about a super evil force that all the races of the galaxy have to unite against and a prophecised damsel in distress who will save us somehow.
One story unfolds through the events and decisions of it's actors.
The other unfolds because "Zeratul, forget what you know, everything is different actually and the prophecy tells us what is really going to happen".
MurkyZebra2417
Member
No, because I like to rush bases with many many Zergs and the spike from hard to brutal is pretty harsh. I wanted to enjoy the missions. Why are you so defensive anyways? I just said it was a bit on the easy side for hard, some Missions could have been a bit harder, others were fine, nothing to argue about really.
I'm just asking questions because you didn't seem to understand the other guys quote - which is you saying it was a bit easy but you also played it on hard.
MurkyZebra2417
Member
I think it was a bit too easy for "hard", yes. Because WoL was harder on hard. That is all I am saying, really
AdventureRacing
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Not everyone was in middle school when they finished BW and despite what you say here you can objectively judge a story even if you experienced it for the first time a long time ago.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Been playing through on hard. I don't know if it's just me and I'm bad, or if some achievements are really difficult if not downright impossible at this difficulty or above. I guess that's why you only need to be on normal for them. Restarted the (third?) mission about half a dozen times trying to get the achievements on hard, but even with a macro hatch, I don't think it's very easy, if possible, to do so before the reinforcements arrive. At least getting both at once. You might be able to just suicide everything in for one of them. But I figured I'd start on hard and move down only if I needed to after glancing through the thread and seeing people saying that normal was too easy.
Story missions are fun though so far, but I also thought the gameplay in the WoL campaign was sublime. Story itself is a bit meh, but we'll see where it goes. I can already guess one possibility for a twist coming on.
Story missions are fun though so far, but I also thought the gameplay in the WoL campaign was sublime. Story itself is a bit meh, but we'll see where it goes. I can already guess one possibility for a twist coming on.
EscapingJail
Member
Nah but Unranked MMR is separate and you have global play access so you can offrace on another server if you want.
nope, but technically you can do two races on each region. one race on unranked and one on ranked play.
on another note, the campaign is sooo fun
the gameplay gimmicks for each level keep it so fresh and fun.demosthenes
Member
Maybe this is why your moods change so fast, get some more sleep dude.
Yes, I had the same thing yesterday. It was frustrating the hell out of me. I am one of those guys who does not install Adobe or Java. I read some tidbit that said that this MIGHT have something to do with it, so I installed both of those, completely deleted all Starcraft II data, restarted the pc, and then reinstalled. It now works. Hopefully that solution works for you.
Isn't Starcraft, Warcraft and Diablo in the same universe?
No it's actually the same game.
oh you
Especially if you take into account the story of starcraft 1 and brood war
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I don't see you in clan or the community group?