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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT4| Everyone Else Would Beat Catspajamas
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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Well, I am lol
Just lost again to some guy. He got a bunch of siege tanks + marines and I got a bunch of marines, marauders and medivacs. Also some vikings for any medivacs he had. He crawled his way into my base with those tanks and that was that. He had like over 10 of them. WTF do I do in that situation? I have no time to build a ghost academy to get nukes and shit.
Because at the end of the day you're still Terran.
If you want to super baller you get air dominance with vikings and then drop marauders on the tanks. Though obviously the marines make that more dangerous.
Or, more traditionally, just exploit the slowness of his army and drop everywhere.
Or don't go MMM vs marine tank.
Find some Day9 tvt videos. Only way to really learn how to play tvt.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304764
[Interview] ex-MBCGame Caster Kim Chul Min
If you have your units at his base it takes 2 minutes to get to yours.
[Interview] ex-MBCGame Caster Kim Chul Min
Don't let him walk to your base for free.
If you have your units at his base it takes 2 minutes to get to yours.
Ecto311
Member
I have good luck with a few banshees when I start to see tanks. Just look out for scans and poke at the edges - also gives options for keeping them home/ limits expands
He probably had scans, don't bank on it. Buy time with good unit positioning and scan his positions when you fall back since he has to advance his tanks. Just one time catch him off guard and you win, 1at into his base.
Banshees will often get picked off with scans, and you've probably had to invest a lot in getting them plus cloak. It's actually better to keep forcing him to move units back home with drops or have Hellions skirt around his army and show up at his expansions.
Counter to everything.
+ 1 viking
if you have enough ravens you dont even have to worry!
(unless you're facing corran, then go mass ghost+maraduers+hellions)
TheThunder
Member
Best unit in the game:
1- Ghost
2- Infestor
3- Blink Stalker
4- Marine
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Everything else
I only put blink stalkers above marines because marines alone are not hot shit, but with medvacis (and in the hands of MKP I guess) they shoot all the way to #2.
1- Ghost
2- Infestor
3- Blink Stalker
4- Marine
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Everything else
I only put blink stalkers above marines because marines alone are not hot shit, but with medvacis (and in the hands of MKP I guess) they shoot all the way to #2.
I'd trade the Ghost away for the Infestor in a heartbeat. Snipe is amazing, but fungal is just so much better than EMP and neural parasite is pretty lethal if you snag 2-3 Thors or tanks. Their mobility sucks, but the ability to burrow and not have to worry about energy to be hidden is awesome.
I don't know though, it's probably a wash when you factor in how devastating a nuke can be.
I don't know though, it's probably a wash when you factor in how devastating a nuke can be.
Did you see his stream before when he was playing a marine micro trainer? Beating 44 speed banes with 40 marines on creep ezpz
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304915
Interesting post on defenders advantage in sc2 (or the lack thereof)
i want to play on whatever muta-less region you do.
best units in the game
1. marine
1. medivac
2. infested marine
3. ghost(cause of nukes!)
4. infestors
5. maraduers
5. warp prism
6. tanks
7. ravens(highly under used and under appreciated)
8. high templar
8. Sentries
9. archons
9. Immortal
10. Battlecruisers
10. Thors
10. Hellions
10. reaper
10. banshee
10. Colosi(which I hate)
10. Carriers
11. viking
12. Void Rays
12. Brood Lords
12. stalkers
13. roaches
14. overlords
15. ultralisks
15. Dark Templar
16. banelings
17. muta
18. zealot
19. phoenix
20. zerglings
21. Corruptors
22. queens
23. SCV
24. Probe
25. drone
26. Mothership
27. Hydralisks
I judged based on use-fullness, speed, damage, how they actually work vs how blizzard "thinks" they work, and my own bias(I hate colosi)
1. marine
1. medivac
2. infested marine
3. ghost(cause of nukes!)
4. infestors
5. maraduers
5. warp prism
6. tanks
7. ravens(highly under used and under appreciated)
8. high templar
8. Sentries
9. archons
9. Immortal
10. Battlecruisers
10. Thors
10. Hellions
10. reaper
10. banshee
10. Colosi(which I hate)
10. Carriers
11. viking
12. Void Rays
12. Brood Lords
12. stalkers
13. roaches
14. overlords
15. ultralisks
15. Dark Templar
16. banelings
17. muta
18. zealot
19. phoenix
20. zerglings
21. Corruptors
22. queens
23. SCV
24. Probe
25. drone
26. Mothership
27. Hydralisks
I judged based on use-fullness, speed, damage, how they actually work vs how blizzard "thinks" they work, and my own bias(I hate colosi)
They have ascended beyond the list.
It moved.
You forgot mothership.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Is this why whenever I ask to do 2v2s with you, you say no
you always ask when I'm eating, which you've asked like 3-4 times total =(
You put Ultras above DTs, Carriers and Battlecruisers on par with Hellions and Colossi. Errr, what?? How?? Whut???that is correct, zerg units suck
no one builds ultas, how would you know
TheThunder
Member
5 mutas can't do shit while 5 ghosts/infestors can fuck up a guy's afternoon.
You need a ball of 18-20 mutas to do the same damage 8 marines with 1 medivac would do and you could very easily lose that entire stack do to an unlucky clump into a fungle or a thor shot and that's no fun, but yes if I wanted to rank the peasants tier of starcraft units (which is every unit except those 4) I would put mutas on top with Imbalots.
You put Ultras above DTs, Carriers and Battlecruisers on par with Hellions and Colossi. Errr, what?? How?? Whut???
DTs are good until detection, ultras are good if zerg actually got them(yes I know it takes awhile to tech to them)
Also, since you mentioned colossi, I'd put them lower, as they suck as a unit.
BCs and Carriers are under appreciated and are actually really good units.
Hellions are top tier too, as are siege tanks.
5 Mutas are enough to keep the enemy near their base long enough to get 10-15 Muats out. From that point they're pretty much out of control and you have to pray that they make a bad mistake and you can cut the numbers down. Once Mutas have you either splitting your armies or leaving units near your main, it gets really tough to handle Zerg.
PhoenixDark
Banned
This is true. Ghosts are clearly OP, but I'm not sure 5 is a huge deal
also I just clicked on your tag and awwwwww
AdventureRacing
Member
Using NP on a tank with the range nerf? Good luck with that.
Yeah, it's pretty uncommon these days. It's more of a high ground to low ground thing anymore. The Thors are still viable targets though.
nope.
nevermind <3 I love you
Corran Horn
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I have a question about the 1 barracks early expand build. Lately, I've been getting up one refinery on 13 like the 3 barracks build but waiting to get the 2nd one much later. This is so I can still get stim rather quickly. Am I wrong in doing that? Should I wait until like 18 or whatever like I should be?
I have a question about the 1 barracks early expand build. Lately, I've been getting up one refinery on 13 like the 3 barracks build but waiting to get the 2nd one much later. This is so I can still get stim rather quickly. Am I wrong in doing that? Should I wait until like 18 or whatever like I should be?
You typically don't get gas until after you start building your CC but I just finished watching Day9's analysis on Thorzain's opening that's really beautiful. Check it out:
http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-402-p1-stephano-vs-thorzain-epic-zvt-5899033
PhoenixDark
Banned
The last Day9 daily was pretty helpful. It made me realize something I always do that's stupid. Let's set the stage: Shattered Temple, 15 hatch against Terran. I get 4 lings and put one on the xel naga tower. Shortly after my hatch is up the ling at the tower gets killed by a Hellion
...I respond by making like 4-6 lings. Two Hellions get to my base and poke around but are driven off by the queen and spine crawler. So I wasted larvae to get lings I don't really need, now I'm low on drones.
Once the 4 hellions come out sure, it makes sense to get more lings but that early 2 Hellion poke does not warrant an overreaction.
...I respond by making like 4-6 lings. Two Hellions get to my base and poke around but are driven off by the queen and spine crawler. So I wasted larvae to get lings I don't really need, now I'm low on drones.
Once the 4 hellions come out sure, it makes sense to get more lings but that early 2 Hellion poke does not warrant an overreaction.
I like this.